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Thank you[edit]

Just wanted to thank you for your swift attention to my move request for Kittatinny Mountain. I appreciate your help.--JackTheVicar (talk) 19:54, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

You're welcome, Jack. Happy editing!  Philg88 talk 21:33, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

There may not be a need to...[edit]

but it feels good to do so at times. I don't apologize for my language in this instance. --Onorem (talk) 08:26, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

This edit summary does not give me hope. --NeilN talk to me 08:57, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
@Onorem: It probably does but I have to try and maintain balance. Thanks for taking the time to explain. Cheers,  Philg88 talk 09:00, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
@NeilN: Sigh ...  Philg88 talk 09:01, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

ANI Closure[edit]

I accept your closure and the trouting at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Possible_canvassing, but I want to ask: so it's okay to post on 100s of article talk pages like that? That seems disruptive at the least. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 16:20, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

I have no intention of prolonging discussion of this now closed "incident". FWIW, what I will say is that when an action, in this case Guy's is a genuine attempt to improve the encyclopedia it cannot be considered disruptive, however much you may not like it.  Philg88 talk 16:34, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for your reply. Not my intention to prolong discussion, just genuinely wanted to know. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 21:15, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

UTRS Account Request[edit]

I confirm that I have requested an account on the UTRS tool.  Philg88 talk

Samma Tribe , why did you reverted[edit]

Hi, Samma are the Sindi Rajput descendents of Rajput. Why you have reverted , explain?. Why you are preventing to insert the information.--Jogi don (talk) 10:06, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your somewhat ill-mannered message. You know perfectly well why I reverted your edit. You have been told by both Sitush and Dr.K. that information must be reliably sourced and verifiable. Adding a seach link to Google books does not satisfy that requirement. Please abide by our policies and guidelines to avoid losing your editing privileges here. Thanks,  Philg88 talk 10:14, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Stranded Pakistanis in Bangladesh[edit]

Hello Mr Admin, Once admin Bbb23 here on Edit warring notice board, suggested us(me and Mar4d) to report on his talk page if anyone involves in unjustified edits and don't indulge in edit war. Curenlty he is on vacation so he suggested to contact other admin. So I'm asking for your intervention here, Mar4d is keep on moving page Stranded Pakistanis in Bangladesh to Bihari community in Bangladesh, while he is not having any evidence for him. The most common term used for those people is "Stranded Pakistanis" and used by The New York Times(US), BBC(UK), The Guardian(UK), Dawn(Pakistan), Express Tribune(Pakistan), Daily Sun(Bangladesh). These are leading news papers of respective nations. You can see our discussion and sources Talk page, Biharis in Bangladesh . That page was moved by another user, no one has consensus with current name. Mar4d is not providng any source for his claim. He is not even replying on Talk page, though he is online and reporting me elsewhere in charge of hounding. I was got blocked once for edit warring with him because he is very reluctant. So I'm asking for your help. Thank you. --Human3015 09:41, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

That warning was for reverts related to Indian subcontinent, one of several articles where you've followed me. Also, instead of copy pasting comments on multiple talk pages, please keep the discussion at one place, User talk:Bbb23. Mar4d (talk) 10:04, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
@Human3015:I know Bbb23 is on vacation but other people are watching his talk page, including me, and will respond if appropriate. Thanks,  Philg88 talk 15:59, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Stadiums[edit]

Dear Philg88, I added pages to Wikipedia about large, missing Chinese football stadiums, but I received a warning that they will delete those pages because I didn't add references to those pages. The problem is, I can't add the references they ask for, because then I will get banned. I don't know what to do anymore, some admins demand references, some admins demand I don't use references... What can I do? Worldofstadiums.com is the only site I know with all the information about those Chinese stadiums. Thank you for your response, Groundhopping.

Hey Groundhopping, thanks for the message. All information on Wikipedia must use references based on reliable sources, which WorldofStadiums isn't. If there are no other sources available then the topic (i.e. stadium) is not notable and shouldn't be in the encyclopedia. Hopefully, that makes it clear but feel free to ask if you're still unsure about this. In a nutshell: No references in reliable sources = No Article. Cheers,  Philg88 talk 15:51, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Stadiums[edit]

Thank you Phil, I didn't know that. But when is a source reliable and when is it not reliable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Groundhopping (talkcontribs) 18:37, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Please read the guideline I linked above ... here it is again. Don't forget to sign your talk page messages with four tildes (~~~~ like this). Cheers,  Philg88 talk 18:42, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
@Groundhopping: You may find this guide a little easier to understand. Best MusikAnimal talk 20:02, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Support request with team editing experiment project[edit]

Dear tech ambassadors, instead of spamming the Village Pump of each Wikipedia about my tiny project proposal for researching team editing (see here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Research_team_editing), I have decided to leave to your own discretion if the matter is relevant enough to inform a wider audience already. I would appreciate if you could appraise if the Wikipedia community you are more familiar with could have interest in testing group editing "on their own grounds" and with their own guidance. In a nutshell: it consists in editing pages as a group instead of as an individual. This social experiment might involve redefining some aspects of the workflow we are all used to, with the hope of creating a more friendly and collaborative environment since editing under a group umbrella creates less social exposure than traditional "individual editing". I send you this message also as a proof that the Inspire Campaign is already gearing up. As said I would appreciate of *you* just a comment on the talk page/endorsement of my project noting your general perception about the idea. Nothing else. Your contribution helps to shape the future! (which I hope it will be very bright, with colors, and Wikipedia everywhere) Regards from User:Micru on meta.

Hmm ... so you chose to spam user talk pages instead?  Philg88 talk 14:01, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Sensitive[edit]

I appreciate what you said about sensitivity at/post the thread at WP:AN/I#User:DD2K aka "Dave Dial"'s Deeds at Talk:Hillary Rodham Clinton/April 2015 move request‎. Indeed I have to raise my hands to say that I have probably been as sensitive as anyone in the run up to the discussion. Since I proposed my failed RM a short time ago (which was ill advised mainly for its short length not fulfilling requirements and not for lack of quality) I know that I may have interpreted more things as being antagonistic than was represented by the reality but, in the run up to the RM, I certainly interpret dirty tricks on the part of some editors and presentation of loaded interpretations by others. I'm personally appalled at the situation and the rigging of results.

I've put my reaction in discussion section of the RM and see no justification for the behaviour. In the AN/I several editors commented on sanctions that should be followed before one editor said that all should be trouted, 5 editors had said that some level of action should be taken without anyone opposing action altogether. In this case, and while I respect that you took a course of action in good faith, I certainly think that it was disruptive and I think it sends out all the wrong signals. It can tell editors that they can falsify findings with little fear of action being taken.

As for me my actual !Vote in the case has been neutral as justified with an I think significant write up on weighing towards the "Hillary Clinton" side. There is nothing tendentious in my comments here. GregKaye 13:47, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Hey Greg, thanks for the message. This isn't about where you stand on the issue or "sending out signals", the close preventing a discussion descending into mayhem and mud slinging, which is not good for Wikipedia. You've stated your case at the RM, as have others, and once the process has run its course, the closing admin will no doubt take into account the behavior and actions of the !voters in deciding the close. Cheers,  Philg88 talk 13:58, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
lol May I propose the fish caked in the mud with a healthy application of positive flaming and everything will be fine. The !vote and threads started by DD have not added to clarity but, I guess in situations like this, such is life. GregKaye 14:09, 30 April 2015 (UTC).

Your common.css page[edit]

Hi; I notice that in User:Philg88/common.css you have the CSS rule

.ambox-Orphan{display: inherit !important;}

- please note that there is an error in this (almost certainly copied from an old version of Template:Orphan#Visibility) which causes incorrect display in some browsers.

To check this, visit this page and look at the second bullet (the one that precedes the text "This article is an orphan ..."). If this bullet is not in the same alignment as the other four, but displaced to the left, you can fix it by altering inherit to table in the CSS rule mentioned earlier. If that doesn't work either, alter it to block.

Template:Orphan#Visibility has been amended. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:37, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Request[edit]

Well, I appreciate the work you do here. But I really believe that you shouldn't have blocked Premthanjavur (talk · contribs), yes he violated 3-rr but he was not alone to do that, this edit is not a copyvio, BLPvio, or vandalism, thus reverting this edit was not exempted from WP:3RR. I think that you should unblock him and protect the page instead since 2 editors[1][2] did disagreed with him anyway. I have seen that edit warring was accross multiple articles, but it was between these 2 editors at most. Maybe a warning would suffice. Thank you. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 09:28, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi OccultZone and thanks for the message. I blocked Premthanjavur for disruptive editing across multiple articles. Sitush has tried to explain what is problematic about this editor's contributions but the message hasn't got through. I'm not inclined to unblock, particularly as this only has 24 hours to run. Cheers,  Philg88 talk 10:30, 4 May 2015 (UTC).
Yes those edits were disruptive. Only thing we can do is wait for the unblock request, although I doubt since he has never used the talk page before. Face-plain.svg OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 10:33, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
OccultZone, this has been going on for months, if not years. I wasn't aware of the block until the ping above but I am far from being the only person who has tried to explain the situation. There are even warnings from others on their talk page. 24 hours is not long, although I'm not hopeful that it will make much difference because they are in pretty serious SPA mode and they have not just been reverting me. - Sitush (talk) 10:37, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
You might also want to see Talk:Sambuvaraya. Their entire case is predicated on their understanding of what Karashima says. - Sitush (talk) 10:40, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Being approved as a TWL so I can access Scotlands people through Wikipedia,please[edit]

Phil, thanks for your labor of love in Historical research and improving Wikipedia. I am asking for you to approve my email : rkerhardt@hotmail.com so I can access SP through Wiki.

We are heading to Scotland this June and a trying to verify every detail & doc so I take my Husband to the correct places in Dundee & Angus. Thanks for your help. Rozalia 19:10, 4 May 2015 (UTC)50.124.77.47 (talk)

Hi Rozalia and thanks for your message. In order to register for Wikipedia Library access to ScotlandsPeople, you need to satisfy the criteria laid out at the application page. If you have a qualifying account please let me know and I will start the necessary process. Best,  Philg88 talk 06:01, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

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Persondata RfC[edit]

Hi, You participated in the previous Persondata RfC. I just wanted to notify you that a new RfC regarding the methodical removal of Persondata is taking place at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals). Thanks, —Msmarmalade (talk) 08:00, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Commented.  Philg88 talk 05:55, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Keezhperiyaoor or keezhperoor, Thirupalkadal sree krishna swami temple has a strong conection with Ay, venad dynasty and Travancore royal family[edit]

Keezhperiyaoor or keezhperoor, Thirupalkadal sree krishna swami temple has a strong conection with Ay, venad dynasty and Travancore royal family.

Please allow me to edit. You can refer to below links or Refer to Dr.M.G Sashibhooshan

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.364560770342552.1073741827.364534597011836&type=3

https://www.facebook.com/thirupalkadal/photos/pb.364534597011836.-2207520000.1430993597./649784508486842/?type=3&theater

Reference "Kilimanoor Copper plates" or "Thirupalkadal sasanam"

https://www.facebook.com/thirupalkadal/photos/pb.364534597011836.-2207520000.1430993669./364605987004697/?type=3&theater — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amalsemilon (talkcontribs) 10:16, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

@Amalsemilon: The reason I reverted your edit was because it was poorly written. Editing Wikipedia requires a level of competence in the English language. If you intend to add something to an article that isn't coherently written or properly formatted then please don't. I have cleaned up your edits to the article and you should also note that Facebook is not a reliable source and cannot be used as a reference.  Philg88 talk 11:32, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Please type your message title here[edit]

How shall I add details to wikipedia without a level of competence in English? Please reply whether below one is a valid reference or not.

Rudrakshamala by Aswathi Thirunal Gowri Lakshmi Bayi published by TBS books ISBN:978-81-300-1547-7, 9788130015477  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amalsemilon (talkcontribs) 15:59, 7 May 2015 (UTC) 
I already added that reference to the article in the "References" section - if you look at that you will see the correct format.  Philg88 talk 16:04, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Request for copy of a deleted page — RMM Software[edit]

Hey Phil, would you mind providing me with a copy of the somewhat-recently-deleted page RMM Software? As someone who works with such tools, I'd like to opportunity to review the old article and recreate the page with a more Neutral Point of View. Best, Interference 541 (talk) 06:03, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi there Interference 541 and thanks for the message. While Wikipedia's deletion policy allows for the restoration of speedily deleted articles, it excludes those that have been the subject of a previous Afd discussion. In cases like these, deletion review is required. For what it's worth, having looked at the article it is nothing more than a puff piece for a particular RMM company, which is inadequately sourced. I'd recommend you start from scratch if you want an article on this topic. Best,  Philg88 talk 07:05, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply Phil, I couldn't remember what was on the page since I last visited it but I understand the benefit of starting from scratch. I appreciate you looking into this though! Interference 541 (talk) 20:09, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
You're welcome. Let me know if you need anything else. Cheers,  Philg88 talk 20:19, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

thank you[edit]

@Philg88.I am really feel happy because your monitoring my edits.i remember one says, "A friend in need is a friend indeed".thank you Eshwar.omTalk tome 06:11, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

@Eshwar.om: If that was an attempt at humour I'm afraid it failed. As I said on your talk page, continued disregard for Wikipedia's policies and guidelines will result in a block.  Philg88 talk 07:10, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Change to Le Nguyen Khang[edit]

Hi,

I am actually General Le Nguyen Khang's grand daughter and am very well aware that he passed away in California. I'm not quite sure where I can find a correct source for this but here is a book that also supports this (Although he did not pass away in Hope, California but under the care of the City of Hope Medical Center.) https://books.google.com/books?id=qh5lffww-KsC&pg=PA648&lpg=PA648&dq=le+nguyen+khang+death&source=bl&ots=jCDTC3ywUx&sig=_ZITEXoWiPNsNscMS_-dPkzQYYM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=HJtOVamPENb8oQS3zIDgCQ&ved=0CCYQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=le%20nguyen%20khang%20death&f=false — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.160.230.218 (talk) 23:44, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

@70.160.230.218:Hi there and thanks for the message. I don't doubt that you know where your grandfather died, but Wikipedia only goes by what reliable sources say. In this case the single source says Virginia, not California, so that is what the entry says. I've edited the page to reflect what your new source says. Please let me know if that's OK. Best,  Philg88 talk 06:34, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Train from Guangdong to Hainan[edit]

Hello, my friend. Long time. Could you please tell me what the story is here:[3][4]?

Do we have an article on this? If not, I'd like to start it/them. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:37, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Indeed and I hope all is well with you. There has been a train service from Haikou's (West? Station) to Guangdong for yonks via the sea ferry, which is what I think is shown in the satellite images. I'm not 100% sure though, and you know as well as I do that the government is developing the island at the speed of a bullet train. I don't think that the new bridge will have a railway - just road, so it's not that. Sorry that I can't provide a definitive answer. Best,  Philg88 talk 04:45, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
All is well this end. I hope this thread finds you well.
Yes, I gather the same thing as you. It is the Guangdong-Hainan ferry terminal. A friend confirms this. I am just not sure why there are two sites. My guess is that people and cars get off at the port there, and the train cars come out and arrive a few hundred metres south at that station. There, people get out of the train cars and go wherever. As for the railway itself, I'm not even sure we have an article for that. It doesn't look like the high speed. I've seen it too. It looks like cargo, but I've never seen a train on the tracks. I might just have to head over there tomorrow with a camera and a list of questions, and find out for myself. Best. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:20, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Did you say bridge?? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:28, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Yes, a beast of a bridge across the Qionghai Strait due for completion in 2020 I believe. Now there's an article Face-smile.svg. We also don't have an article for the Hainan—Guangdong Railway if one is merited.  Philg88 talk 05:42, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Qiongzhou Strait Train Ferry.jpg
Is there a source that says they're actually for sure going to do it? Lots of old sources, but nothing new I can see. Also, there is Guangdong–Hainan Ferry, but no railway ariticle. I'd love to write the railway article. I heard it was build by the Japanese and is only used for cargo, but maybe no longer. I'll dig. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:12, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Dunno. I thought they started work a while ago but the project may have stalled as a result of the mainland economic slowdown. I'll try and find a Chinese source but don't hold your breath. Cheers,  Philg88 talk 06:20, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
I've never heard anything but plans and talk. Another stalled project is Nanhai Pearl Artificial Island. After the big typhoon is when I guess it all stopped. Nothing but rusty parts lying around. The bridge footings installed by the temporary rock road. A structure unfinished. Temp worker housing with a few guards and a pack of dogs. Nothing more. The site used to have a guard stopping people from entering at the west side of Evergreen Park. No more. Now one is free to walk down there. Fishermen (catching nothing of course) here and there along the temp stone road. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:43, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Odd. When I search this, the Chinese name for this island off Evergreen Park, it seems to show the round island under construction off the new and enormous [[Hainan Exhibition & Convention Center]. I will take photos of that soon and start that article. There is yet another artificial island near that. Not sure what that is about. Oh, and there is an oil rig or two several km out to sea north of Evergreen too. I guess they're drilling there. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:46, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:52, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
One more link to bomb you with [5]. Definitely a train on normal tracks. Interesting..... :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:02, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Looks like the Japanese built rail link to Danzhou and beyond.  Philg88 talk 07:58, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
[citation needed]. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:03, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
I'll eat my hat if it isn't.[dubious ] Face-smile.svg.  Philg88 talk 10:15, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
We're guessing.[why?][by whom?] Anna Frodesiak (talk) 19:32, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Yep.[out of suitable templates].  Philg88 talk 20:35, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
So true.[just gettin' the last word] Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:15, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Seriously, though. I'm heading out there in an hour or so. I'll be back later today with answers and photos of everything. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:28, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Sounds good Sherlock!  Philg88 talk 21:31, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Follow-up[edit]

Okay, here is what I found out: [6] [7] [8]

So, we have articles on everything but the South Port, as it is officially called. But, I guess we don't need one, as the Guangdong–Hainan Ferry only has two ports, and the South Port is only used (as far as I know) for that ferry service.

I hope what I've added to those three articles makes sense. I have 68 images in the process of being uploaded. Do you think the railway station passenger notices are copyvios?

Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:25, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

And a couple more tidbits:

[9] [10] [11]

Lousy writing, but true! :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:45, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Okay, I fixed it to make more sense. I got a bit fried in the sun today, and haven't been quite right in the head since. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:50, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

My my, you have been busy. There should be no copyvio issue with the notices as they are text without any attached intellectual property. For the sunstroke I recommend a large dose of Yanjing Beer. Best,  Philg88 talk 15:57, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
Busy indeed. Thanks for the copyvio feedback and the beer recommendation. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:03, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

I need your brain[edit]

Qiongzhou Strait Train Ferry.jpg
South Port (Hainan) - 05.JPG

I'm trying to figure out where Qiongzhou Strait Train Ferry.jpg is. It is obviously an image of inside a ferry showing where the exiting trains go. I just took South Port (Hainan) - 05.JPG which shows the ferry where the train comes out. They do not match. So, it seems that Qiongzhou Strait Train Ferry.jpg is not an image of South Port. It is also probably not the Guangdong port. However, the logo and colour of the train in Qiongzhou Strait Train Ferry.jpg matches the South Port engine train that brings the train cars out of the ferry (File:Railway between Haikou Railway Station and South Port - 04.JPG). I'm stumped. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:03, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Looks to me like Qiongzhou Strait Train Ferry.jpg was taken looking out of the ferry (hence the title). That also fits with the railway car. Not 100% sure but that's my best educated guess.  Philg88 talk
What is the Qiongzhou Strait Train Ferry? A different line, or the Guangdong–Hainan Ferry? As far as I know, the only train one is the Guangdong–Hainan Ferry. Also, all ferries cross the strait, so I still don't get it. Oh, and look a the huge yellow structure in the background. I don't see that on any map. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:45, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Qiongzhou Strait Train Ferry = Guangdong–Hainan Ferry. As for the yellow structure, either the map is out of date or the picture was taken at the Guangdong end.  Philg88 talk 05:55, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
I'd say the photo is out of date. I think this is an image of one of the sides of the strait and how it used to look or where it used to be. Oh well. Sorry to bug you with all of this. I guess it's a dead end. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:03, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Sorry, one teensy thing more: The ferry service is called the Guangdong–Hainan Ferry. I see the raiway continue up into Guangdong. So, what's the railway called? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:05, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

No problem with asking as many questions as you like, although there's no guarantee that I know the answers Face-smile.svg. In Chinese, the railway is called the "Guangdong-Hainan Railway" (粤海铁路, yuè hǎi tiělù). If you have a look at the relevant Chinese article, you will see your mystery picture with the caption "Qiongzhou Strait Guangdong Railway ferry, taken in 2010", which indicates that it is from the Guangdong end. Maybe that article needs its own translation.  Philg88 talk 06:35, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Ah, the Guangdong side. Okay. I guess they've moved it somehow.

Final question: Should Guangdong–Hainan Ferry be moved to Guangdong–Hainan Railway? The commons cat used to be called the latter, but I changed it to match the enwp article. If the article is Guangdong–Hainan Railway, then it could have a section about the ferry and be expanded to include info about where it goes up north in Guangdong, including maybe the northern terminus, wherever that is.

Final final question: The 1km of track between the Haikou Railway Station and South Port, that is part of which railway? Ahhhhhh, this is the sort of deep question that keeps philosophers up at night. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:42, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Moving Guangdong–Hainan Ferry to Guangdong–Hainan Railway seems sensible, especially as it can then be Wikidata linked to the Chinese and Japanese versions, ditto the commonscat. As to the 1km of track to the South Port, I would include that in Guangdong–Hainan Railway for want of anywhere more appropriate. Hope that helps! Best,  Philg88 talk 06:02, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
All done! Thank you again for your kind patience. If I've done anything daft, or left anything undone, please say. All the best, my dear friend. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:39, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Please type your message title here[edit]

don't care — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gwipro (talkcontribs) 13:13, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Alas, it's too late for you to read block hammer.  Philg88 talk 15:36, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for page protection[edit]

Just want to express my appreciation for your protection of Mamasapano clash. The frequency of vandalism and POV pushing was indeed putting some undue stress on editors. Thanks for being proactive in your anti-vandalism efforts! Mamyles (talk) 17:26, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

@Mamyles: You're welcome. Believe me I know how frustrating it can be ... some people just don't listen. Best,  Philg88 talk 17:29, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you very much Philg88[edit]

Comment: Hello  Philg88 , first of all I would like to thank you for all the edits done for polishing Kollam based articles and main page. No issues in polishing the pages. I would like to create a wiki Portal for Kollam, like the one about Portal:Chennai. Anyway go ahead... I offer my full support and contributions for your activities.

I would like to get your help to protect our Kollam page, as the page is facing continuous vandalism & unwanted disturbances. So I request you to do the needful to protect our Kollam page.

-- Thanks & regards, Arunvrparavur 9:58, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Hello my friend and thanks for the message. Creating a portal sounds like a good idea but at this stage, I don't think page protection is needed on Kollam. Like many articles on Indian topics, it attracts lots of new and enthusiastic users who don't realise that they can't just add information. If there is a sudden spate of deliberate vandalism then naturally I will do what is necessary. BTW, I did a quick search on Honey Benjamin and there appears to be sufficient coverage for her to warrant her own article. What do you think? Best,  Philg88 talk 11:24, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Yes Phil, enough coverage is there for Honey Benjamin as she is the current Mayor of Kollam Corporation. We can start an article for Mrs. Benjamin. Arunvrparavur 12:32, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
I'll leave that to you if you would like as you also have access to Malayam and other language sources that I can't read! Cheers,  Philg88 talk 11:36, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Military on Gotland[edit]

Harrias talk 00:01, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Hey kompis, I didn't know you put me down for that. Undeserved really, as I did very little but thanks anyway! Best,  Philg88 talk 04:34, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
This time I'm actually innocent. ;) Ceannlann gorm handled this DYK all by himself. Guess he was just as grateful as any of all us "newbies" you have helped along during the years. Being appreciated is a burden you'll have to bear, I'm afraid. w.carter-Talk 07:08, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

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Lucknow native name[edit]

The infobox is allowed to contain two or more native names as it does for many cities such as Lahore, Faizabad, and Moradabad as most cities have more than one spoken and official language. The native language of Lucknow is in fact Urdu, and Urdu is also the official language of Lucknow. "Lucknow has Urdu as its official language while Hindi is another of it's major languages".

http://www.lucknow.org.uk/culture/index.html http://www.lucknowcity.org.in/language-of-lucknow

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sher-e-hindostan (talkcontribs) 11:50, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Yes, but not in the same field surely? Sitush, thoughts?  Philg88 talk 20:44, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
I'm afraid this native naming thing is a complete mess. Yes, the consensus of the India Project is that native names can be shown for places provided that the scripts used are restricted to those which are the official language(s) of the place. In some situations, this can mean four or five scripts being deployed (India has around 28 official languages in total). To the best of my knowledge, no-one has ever raised the issue of how they are displayed when there are multiple scripts.
I've not checked the links provided above but, assuming that they are correct, only Urdu should be shown in this instance. That Hindi is a major language would be irrelevant unless it is also an official one. - Sitush (talk) 08:19, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
@Sitush: I stumbled across this when checking Sher-e-Hindostan's edits, and checked the links: neither of the sites they link to claim to be, or has anything that even hints at them being, an official site for the city of Lucknow, they're just sites promoting business and tourism in Lucknow (with a "Yellow Pages" directory etc), and thus cannot be used as references for official languages in Lucknow. Which is Sher-e-Hindostan's, and the IP's they previously used, typical MO: POV-pushing with no sources or fake sources. The person behind Sher-e-Hindostan (an account that was created on 10 May 2015, right after I had had a brief conversation with IP 174.119.132.255 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) about similar edits on Delhi; check the IP's contributions and compare them to Sher-e-Hindostan's edits: a clear case of WP:DUCK), has being doing this kind of POV-pushing (promoting Punjabi and Urdu) for years from Canadian IPs, for which they have been blocked a number of times as various IPs. Thomas.W talk 08:22, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
Good work, Thomas.W. I have protected Lucknow for now and will monitor the situation. If Sher-e-hindostan's behavior continues then a block will inevitably result.  Philg88 talk 08:50, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
Would you take a look at Vanished user oinwn4toindcin23rjnsd (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log)? It's a clear case of WP:Duck too, making the exact same kind of edits, including adding Urdu with a fake reference, and at the same time removing the reference for Hindi as official language of Uttar Pradesh. I would like to know what their previous real username was, but I guess I can't be told that. By continuing to make clearly disruptive edits, using the courtesy vanishing to evade scrutiny, they clearly violate the terms of Wikipedia:Courtesy_vanishing, and deserve a block for that alone... Thomas.W talk 09:38, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
Never mind the name, I found it in the talk page history: Zaketo, a blocked sock master. And I got the timetable wrong, he hasn't edited as that user since being granted courtesy vanishing. Thomas.W talk 09:40, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
@Thomas.W: Are you planning to open an SPI for Sher-e-hindostan and the IP? Cheers,  Philg88 talk 14:29, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
No. My latest experience with SPI has put me off from using their services again. Thomas.W talk 14:34, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Move of contested articles[edit]

G'day Philg88, I don't understand why you moved the XXth Mounted Brigade (United Kingdom) articles, when at least two were opposed. They really shouldn't have been technical moves, they should have been RM'd. Regards, Peacemaker67 (crack... thump) 06:52, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi there and thanks for your message. I opened a RM discussion on the 4th Brigade as a contested move. As for the others, AFAICS, there are no other articles of a smilar title and we don't have a policy of not moving articles because a similarly named topic may be created at some future point. Where there are multiple countries with the same brigade names the base name article should in most cases be a disambiguation page. Cheers,  Philg88 talk 07:01, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
Actually, we do. Per WP:MILMOS#UNITNAME, it was clear when you moved them that I had identified two of the brigades had Canadian counterparts. 2nd Mounted Brigade (United Kingdom) should have been retained at that title, and a dab page created for 2nd Mounted Brigade. The others may well be in the same boat. Regards, Peacemaker67 (crack... thump) 07:13, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
Fair enough – even admins do not know every single style guide backwards Face-smile.svg. I'll move the page back and leave you to create the DAB. Cheers,  Philg88 talk 08:44, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. Peacemaker67 (crack... thump) 08:45, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Deletion help[edit]

Could you delete these page. I don;t know what they are. User:Vin09/vector.js, User:Vin09/dashes.js.--Vin09 (talk) 07:39, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

@Vin09: Yes check.svg Done.  Philg88 talk 08:43, 25 May 2015 (UTC)