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Re:Your revision to 2007-08 South-West Indian Ocean cyclone season

Fame have not acute accent. The name Fame was submitted by South Africa without any accent. Please, see here, page 73, a World Meteorological Organization (WMO) document for the 2007-08 Southwest Indian Ocean cyclone season. Ramisses (talk) 18:42, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Template:Storm colour

I reverted your changes to {{storm colour}}, it might be a good idea to gather consensus on WT:WPTC for these changes. They affect more than the IHS replacement you are working on. --Coredesat 17:28, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

The problem, though, is that all the colors were the result of a fairly long-winded series of discussions on the project's talk page, since this template affects so many other templates. --Coredesat 18:03, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

The color you changed was discussed here, by the way, and was the winner out of several swaths of color that were proposed. Also, the addition of other scales to the template is a major change to its operation (particularly since the template was designed to provide a scale that is used Wikipedia-wide, regardless of basin), and that really should be discussed project-wide. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 21:08, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Please stop adding these colors to the template, or else you may find yourself in violation of the three-revert rule. There was an incredible amount of discussion and headaches that led to the current color scheme; any new colors or functions for the template should be discussed and agreed to before they go live, especially when this has been brought up before. --Coredesat 03:45, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm not asserting ownership. I'm just saying, we had several discussions over several months to get the color scheme we have now. It's only right that any new colors are discussed before they're added to the template, especially when there's already a working alternative that's been proposed. New colors aren't likely to be accepted anyway, given that the existing color scheme was such a headache and the code is confusing enough for some users. --Coredesat 04:47, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

The infobox

Alright, and I'm just throwing this out there, but would you still be willing to make your version of the infobox, only as a different name for now, and with the previously agreed colors? I don't want you to be discouraged, regardless what the others think. I try and stay away from template discussions, since I know little about them, but I like to step in when a new user is willing to try something. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 05:01, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm glad to hear that. However, are the colors the same as the rest of the articles? We have a set color scheme, and since I didn't get involved before, I don't know the outcome of that. Would you be willing to make a new version of the template, so we can compare the two? ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 05:23, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh, that makes sense. So would you be up for making a new version of the template? I don't think there will be much opposition, and if yours is better, then we can just move it over. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:14, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

OK, I'll be honest, I really don't know too much about templates. However, if you put it on the WPTC talk page, I'm sure there's bound to be some feedback. However, I did get an email from an experienced user on the Infobox, and he noted several problems with the template. It doesn't appear to work with the Southwest Indian Ocean. Also, there should be some discussion on the colors. I know it might sound pointless, but the visual aspect of templates is an important one, and it took us a while to settle on the colors we currently have. Make sure the template works with the Atlantic, as the season is coming up quickly, and they're the most visible basins. Also be sure it works with pre-JMA WPAC. The person who emailed me told me to mention that the names should not be in the template. As the infoboxes are only used in the sections of season articles, and as those sections always have the names, then there's an unnecessary redundancy. Not to mention, it simplifies the coding not having to have the names in there. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:49, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Again, I gotta be honest, I don't know too much about templates. Personally, I don't really like "Hurricane 08", or "Typhoon 06W", for named storms. Something I think that should be discussed is when to switch from JTWC to JMA, as the JMA was the official agency for some time prior to 2000. Would you want to bring that up on the WPTC talk page? ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:08, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Subtropical storms should be made so they're always called "subtropical storm", even if the winds are above 65 kts. Also, for my own understanding, does the WPAC ever list 1-min winds first? That is the reason I was wondering about JMA vs. JTWC. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:56, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm not so sure such a change is needed. We use the official data for the infobox, and the article explains at the top of the article which warning center is the official one. I wouldn't want to see 8 infoboxes all saying IMD. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 13:49, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, the warning center comes down to whether we use 10-min or 1-min wind. I don't think the warning center is necessary. There are fairly few storms that are only warned as a tropical storm by PAGASA or JTWC, and we always explain the situation in the text. Those storms, after all, are in an other storms section. The same goes with the SHEM storms, which can merely be explained. Plus, I don't think acronyms would be very aesthetically pleasing for the Infobox. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:53, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Yea, I guess having links wouldn't be a bad idea, seeing those other examples. Really, I usually can't make decisions about anything (heh, I only like to write articles, after all), so by this point, I say it's up to you. From what I can tell, most people in the project are fairly willing to accept whatever we have, so as long as the infobox works, it should be fine. Really, the work is appreciated, and by now I doubt anyone would have serious objections to what you are doing. If you're looking for some input, perhaps you could ask User:Seddon69 or User:Jdorje. How close until you think you are done with it? ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:27, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Sweet that it's done (almost)! Just a small question. Do you think the names should be upper-case or lower-case, like Pressure or pressure? Or, is there no difference? The current Infobox small uses the lower case letters. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:56, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Great job with the template. Now quick question. Would you mind writing up something for our monthly newsletter? The newsletter keeps up with project updates, and everyone in the project gets it (and hopefully reads it). It would only have to be a paragraph or two, but what you write is up to you. Thanks if you can. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:39, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey, not sure if you got my last message, but would you mind writing up something for our monthly newsletter on the new infobox? ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:52, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

OK, that's fine about the newsletter. Wow, I never saw that WMO publication. Those are great, and I look forward to using them in the future. [1] - here's 2002, BTW. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:49, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Err, I guess that link was only for the NIO, but since they have that, I'd imagine they have the others. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:53, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

There actually is a best track for Australia region up to 2005-06 season, located here (zip file). I think that one should be used primarily. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:00, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

If there's nothing from WMO on the 2005-06 season (there should be something by now), than that link you have should be fine. If the best track is updated, or a better link is found, we can make the quick changes if there are any discrepancies. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 05:35, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Was the WMO document published in the last year or two, or do you think it was based on operational data? Heh, you have no idea how much controversy Larry has caused due to not knowing how strong it is. How useful is the BOM report in all of this? ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:54, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Infobox

Hi, see you have worked on a infobox to fix problems in tropical cyclone seasons - looks great! I want to give a hand but I got two problems:

1 The 1999 Pacific typhoon article uses JTWC 1 minute information throughout, but the infoboxes quote JMA numbers; which is broken. Can it be changed to show JTWC numbers?

2 Technical issue. In Firefox the small template produces a small colored bar, like the hurricane article infobox. However, in IE 7 the article box is unchanged, but the season box has a really fat bar Test image with IE on left and FF on right. Can you fix it so it displays properly in IE?

Oh and how do you deal with WPTC without letting them get on your nerves?--CycloneAlley (talk) 20:58, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: Tables

I'm not too familiar with them. However, the infoboxes don't render too differently between my Firefox and IE: [2] (ignore the wacky font in IE). My FF is 1.5 and IE is 6.0. -- RattleMan 01:08, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

The Village Pump is probably your best bet here. There are some pretty nifty CSS gurus that frequent that page. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 05:52, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

1999 NIO season

Hey, I saw your post on Hurricanehink's talk page. If you want, I'll try to take a stab at it, and create the article. Cheers, Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 01:57, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Alright, I'll get started as soon as I can. Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 02:12, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Redirects

Actually, anyone can fix those redirects. This page shows every page linked to the article, including some articles I am assuming you wish to be changed. All you have to do is click on the link to the improper redirect (like this), then edit that by changing where the redirect goes. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:34, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Tropical cyclones WikiProject Newsletter #18

WikiProject Tropical cyclones, awards you this Cyclone Barnstar for your work on tropical cyclone articles.

You were selected as the Member of the Month in the June issue of the WikiProject Tropical cyclones newsletter. Congratulations! If you wish to receive the newsletter, please add your username to the appropriate section on the mailing list. Also, you are encouraged to "officially" join the project by adding your name to the participants list. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:46, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Infoboxes for the SHem season articles

I've a question, shouldn't a storm's "Duration" include the year in its date? I think it would be better because it clarifies which year or years the storm existed, since the SHem seasons fall in two years. RaNdOm26 (talk) 05:54, 20 July 2008 (UTC)