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Vandalism

Please refrain from erasing other editors' contributions and creating multiple pages relating to the same subject. This is considered vandalism in the form of a POV fork. If you continue, you will be reported. Thank you. Лилјак 14:03, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually, you are vandalising my articles, you can notice that by seeing who created those articles in the forst place and who was moving them around. Revizionist 14:27, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Please, stop with political propaganda and with cleaning of sourced info! Jingby 05:47, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

SNOF article

Hi. Could you please discuss the article title at Talk:Narodno Osloboditelen Front? --Michalis Famelis (talk) 14:45, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

NOF

The article "Slavic Macedonian National Liberation Front" should be deleted and integrated with the article about the National Liberation Front. Also, add the following tag to your uploaded images do that they are not deleted, {{PD-RoM}}. 124.168.106.129 10:33, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

3RR violation

You have violated the three-revert rule on the article National Liberation Front (Macedonia) and you will be reported to Wikipedia Administrators. P.S. You cannot stop other Wikipedians contributing to an article because you have not "finished the text", see: WP:OWN. Лилјак 15:25, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Re

Please do not make false accusations against me, I have not violated any Wikipedia rules on National Liberation Front (Macedonia), I merely noticed an edit war among you and other Wikipedia users and you have violated the three-revert rule in doing so. Лилјак 15:32, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

You cannot claim an article as yours if you have written it, the purpose of Wikipedia is to allow other users to contribute. I repeat, you do NOT own the article! Лилјак 15:45, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Changes

You are welcome, since you talk Greek then, και εγώ δεν έχω πρόβλημα με το ethnic Macedonians αντί του Macedonian Slavs ή του Slavomacedonian από τη στιγμή που το άρθρο μιλάει για αυτούς. Θα προσθέσω πολλά στοιχεία για το SNOF όταν επιστρέψω από τις διακοπές και βρώ τα αντίστοιχα βιβλία. Αναφορικά στο historyofmacedonia.org, σε παρακαλώ μην εντάσσεις στο άρθρο ψευδοιστορικά sites. Θα ήθελα επίσης να γράψεις τις εκδόσεις απο το βιβλίο "Σαραντα χρονια του ΚΚΕ 1918-1958" που αναφέρεις ώστε να το ρίξω μια ματιά.

Kapnisma ? 13:40, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Blocked for edit-warring

Based on this evidence [1], I understand that this anon IP [2] was you, which means that you broke the Three-Revert-Rule while edit-warring over Minorities in Greece. You are therefore blocked for 24 hours. Please feel free to return when the block expires, but do make an effort at constructive dispute resolution instead of edit-warring. Also, please do not use anonymous edits to hide your role when making controversial edits. For your information, your opponent Kapnisma is being blocked too. Fut.Perf. ☼ 20:19, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Responding to a block by immediately turning to another IP sock for block evasion ([3]) is not a very clever thing to do. I'm upping your block to 48 hours, which will soon grow very very quickly to something much longer if your continue in this vein. Fut.Perf. ☼ 20:36, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Okay, now we've got 62.162.185.55 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), 62.162.186.153 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), 62.162.190.149 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) and others, all from your IP range. Your block goes up to 10 days, plus a short-term range block on the IP. Fut.Perf. ☼ 21:08, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

First of all I am neither of these ipusers you just presented. If you look in their contribution page, you'll see that they are active in ancient Macedonia and Ilinden period articles - and i am active only in World war two Macedonia and Greek Civil War related articles. Second, and maybe most important - you didn't send me the notice while I was making changes in Minorities in Greece, you send me those warnings when I was not connected to the net. If you have sent me the warning on time, I would have stopped (as I did actually without receiving any warning - see talk page in the bottom where I say that I wont revert until an admin arrives). Also see the time when I made the last revert in page history of Minorities in Greece and the time you sent me the warning on my talk page. Obviously your warning was sent much later. So I respectfully ask you to take out this ban that compromises my academic and gentlemen behavior and come and start a mediation process in Minorities in Greece talk page. P.S. Kapnisma broke the Three-Revert-Rule, I reverted it only 2 times, and agreed that I will wait an administrator to come. The issue is not so big - but is principle. Nothing in the text or in the structure will be changed. Only a link to a book written by an ethnic Macedonian from Greece will be imputed. Nothing else. Cheers. Revizionist 10:38, 04 September 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, but then what about this edit: [4]. Are you claiming this was an impersonator? Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:52, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Update: Please see here. I've asked checkuser to help sort this out. Right now, I still think you were the IP who first made those reverts on the Minorities article and thus you broke the 3RR, but I think I may have misattributed the later reversion spree to you when it may have come from another user , Amacos, who is on the same ISP and just happened to get blocked on an unrelated matter at the same time as you. Please wait a bit until we can get this sorted out. Fut.Perf. ☼ 10:43, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Dear Fut.Perf. ☼, let me propose this gentlemen agreement - Lift the ban, and I will read most of Wikipedia normative materials and will comply with them. As you can see, I am a registered Wikipedian for a time period which is less than a month – which is a very short term to learn all the rules and behavior codex. And as you can see, nobody complains about my activity here. So, I give you my gentlemen word that if you lift the ban today I will act in accordance with the rules (as I did before in 90% of the cases) and will ask admin assistance and mediation instead of reverting. Yours, Revizionist 16:28, 04 September 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I was getting more and more convinced I blocked the wrong guy about that reversion spree last night anyway. Sorry about that, it was an unfortunate misunderstanding based on a coincidence with another user who happened to share your ISP. So, since you've "sat out" most of your original 3RR block anyway, welcome back. Just make sure you stay away from revert-warring, okay? I know those Macedonian topics are forever contentious, it's not easy to build consensus there, but we'll just all have to try... Fut.Perf. ☼ 15:43, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I've unblocked. For technical reasons, there may still be something called an Autoblock which may prevent you from editing. If you find you're still blocked by that, just let me know your current IP and I can lift it too. (Because of a current software bug I can't do that in advance, unfortunately.) Fut.Perf. ☼ 15:49, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

No problem Fut.Perf.. Even the best people make mistakes. I hope this will become a beginning of a beautiful Wiki friendship. Revizionist 10:58, 05 September 2007 (UTC)

Ok, it is changed now. My mistake. P.S. Thanks for the notice. I appreciate it. Revizionist 09:41, 06 September 2007 (UTC)

Userboxes

Please read Wikipedia:Userboxes. You are creating userboxes in the wrong namespace, as User pages of users who do not currently exist. Thanks — Timotab ^{Timothy (not Tim}^dagnabbit!) 12:05, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Your best choice is probably to put it in Template:User Ethnic Macedonian and then you can use it by using {{User Ethnic Macedonian}}. That means anyone looking at the code can easily see that it's a Userbox. — Timotab ^{Timothy (not Tim}^dagnabbit!) 12:29, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Also, I've moved Wikipedia:Userboxes/Ethnic groops to Wikipedia:Userboxes/Ethnic groups as this is the correct spelling — Timotab ^{Timothy (not Tim}^dagnabbit!) 12:32, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I have noticed the creation of a userbox for your nationality that includes a greek state symbol. Please, remove it or replace it with the flag of your state. Kapnisma ? 13:13, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Image issue

Another image issue: the page photographs you uploaded today for Macedonia naming dispute aren't public domain, they remain copyrighted by the publishers of those books. You need to declare them as "fair use". I've done one for you [5], please do the rest accordingly and fill in as much of source information (both about the original print source and the web source you got the photographs from) as you can. Thanks, Fut.Perf. ☼ 20:14, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, but with this one Image:Chento partizani.JPG, you need to specify who the copyright holder is and when and how they released it into the public domain. Plus, the source where you got it from. Fut.Perf. ☼ 10:45, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Голем Поэдрав

:)

(the above title means 'Big Greeting' ;)

I thought you might be interested in joining wikiproject R. Macedonia :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_ROMacedonia Capricornis 17:22, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Samo Sonceto e postaro od Makedonija

You are my blod brother,are you shemeing to be what you are?!We must writte the truth!Not some socialistical komunistical crrap.After 1500 years Macedonians manige to reenew our homeland,that is the onley truth!!!!Ask the Israelys who manige to reenew Izrael after 2500 yaers,or maeby they are slavs too??Look your color skin and say I'm a slav!Or look the color skin of real Bulgars and then say they are slavs too!!!

Golem pozdrav Makedonij 01:22, 10 September 2007 (KIZO)

Don't be so emotional. And give arguments. The "skin color" stuff is racist and I disapprove it. Revizionist 02:01, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

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About Krste Misirkov

I am shure you did not reat the article about him!He died as Bulgarian! Jingby 10:20, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

He had a lot of u-turns in his life, but he died as an etnic Macedonian. Nobody is talking that Hristo Tatarchev or Matov were Macedonians by ehtnicity, but for Misirkov it is important that he created the philosophical bases of the modern ethnic Macedonian identity. In the Republic of Macedonia he is maybe the most selebrated person. Revizionist 10:20, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

He was buried with aid from the Government as Director of Bulgarian school. [6] His Bulgarian identity is shown too in the three last articles he wrote before his death: "Bulgarian school" - "Mir", XXXI,7457, 2 Mаy 1925,[7] "School and Socialism" - "Мir", XXXI,7476,26 May 1925, [8] "Church and school" -"Мir" XXXII,7541,13 August 1925[9] Jingby 10:51, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

It is not important where he is most celebrated. It is important what he did all his life! He was very entangled and muddled person. Jingby 10:57, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Stop cunning! On the picture you have added on Ethnic Macedonians is not Cupovski, but Misirkov! Jingby 11:56, 21 September 2007 (UTC) Now is Cupovski! O.K! Jingby 12:02, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks, but...

First of all, thanks for the barnstar. But another thing: can you please clarify the source and status of those Macedonian folk dance images. Why did you first upload Image:Ethnic Macedonian Dance 1.JPG etc. as "PD-RoM", i.e. public domain, and then when they were deleted you re-uploaded them on commons claiming they were self-made? Fut.Perf. ☼ 16:19, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Ah, I now see you were discussing this with Riana on commons. I'll leave it to him to sort this out. Fut.Perf. ☼ 16:33, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for explaining. I'm still a bit skeptical though, about your claim that WW2 photographs are automatically out of copyright. When I read the Macedonian copyright law the other day during the discussion of that PD-RoM template, it didn't seem to be saying that. It only mentioned the 70 y.p.m.a. rule, and obviously no WW2 photograph can possibly be taken by a photographer who has been dead for more than 70 years, right? But as I said, I'll just leave it to Riana. Fut.Perf. ☼ 13:20, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

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Zdravo

Ako sakaš povekje da pridonsuvaš vo Makedonski statii na ovaa Vikipedija, misli za učestvuvanje preku WP:MKD. Pozdrav. Balkan Fever 11:14, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

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If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI (talk) 16:00, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Ohrana

It is useless to put everywhere citations. You are as the Greeks. Please, read the added sourses. Everything is there! Jingby (talk) 16:37, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Nepokoren.jpg

Thanks for uploading or contributing to Image:Nepokoren.jpg. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Wikipedia constitutes fair use. Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI (talk) 18:38, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:NOF Cavalry.jpg

Thanks for uploading or contributing to Image:NOF Cavalry.jpg. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Wikipedia constitutes fair use. Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI (talk) 18:38, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Begalci.jpg

Thanks for uploading or contributing to Image:Begalci.jpg. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Wikipedia constitutes fair use. Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI (talk) 18:38, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:451 nof ustav.jpg

Thanks for uploading or contributing to Image:451 nof ustav.jpg. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Wikipedia constitutes fair use. Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI (talk) 18:51, 22 January 2008 (UTC)