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No problem, I hope you find what you need.--Sunny910910 (talk|Contributions|Guest) 01:43, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Just so you know, User:Compwhizii has helped format your page.--Sunny910910 (talk|Contributions|Guest) 01:45, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

February 2008[edit]

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Hi, the recent edit you made to Thomas Shoyama has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Use the sandbox for testing; if you believe the edit was constructive, ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing. Thanks. Compwhiz II(Talk)(Contribs) 01:41, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

The above comment is quite inaccurate and unfair. I started and wrote the Shoyama entry and asked for help on formatting. I did receive the help, for which I am grateful. Spoonkymonkey (talk) 01:44, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

I beleive it was proabably because comments like that should be asked on the talkpage as it disrupts the article.--Sunny910910 (talk|Contributions|Guest) 01:46, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

There wouldn't be an article if I hadn't written one. I doubt this is a good way to attract talent to Wikipedia. Spoonkymonkey (talk) 01:49, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Hello! Please remember to be civil on wikipedia. Also I think you have enough start on the page for you to expand. If you need help, please ask. Compwhiz II(Talk)(Contribs) 01:51, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

If you right-click on a page in Firefox the 'View Page Info' option will tell you a fair amount about it, including the 'Modified' date. I think Internet Explorer lets you do a similar think by going to the 'File' menu, then 'Properties'. John Nevard (talk) 22:02, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Time for me to move up to Firefox.Spoonkymonkey (talk) 01:11, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Picture removal[edit]

Hello, I was just wondering why you removed the photograph of Mike Duffy from his article? It's the only available photograph we have of him, and I don't see any reason for it's removal (short of a request by Mr. Duffy himself, if he provides a freely licensed alternative for us to use). Just curious as to whether there was a specific reason or not :) -- Editor at Largetalk 03:25, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Second Life[edit]

I'm sorry to have declined (and removed) the speedy deletion tag you put on this article. I believe that the huge number of subscribers asserts notability; the 150 well-sourced references demonstrate that the topic is notable in a verifiable way, and its being "interesting" is not a criterion for speedy deletion. If you truly believe that this article ought to be deleted, I would suggest you take it to Articles for deletion -- although I believe it would pass AfD. If you have any questions about Wikipedia policy, feel free to leave me a note. Accounting4Taste:talk 18:56, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Sicko[edit]

Information.svg Please do not add commentary or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles, as you did to Sicko. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Thank you. (Diff) Nightscream (talk) 01:54, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

The Fraser Institute makes no bones about its conservatism or its opposition to Canada's medicare system. Spoonkymonkey (talk) 02:13, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Does it explicitly bill itself as "right-wing" or "anti-medicare"? If so, can you provide a link? Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 02:19, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
That link doesn't answer my question. I'm asking you if the Institute specifically bills itself as "right-wing" or "anti-medicare"? That page says that it "came to be known as a right-wing think tank", but not that this is a label it has chosen for itself, and it doesn't mention the word "medicare" at all. Does the Institute describe itself thus? Thanks again. Nightscream (talk) 02:31, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Don't worry about the crankiness. It happens. (Just make sure it doesn't become a habit.) As for the Institute, the issue is not whether they're "right-wing" or "anti-medicare". The issue is whether this wording constitutes an opinion, and whether it's relevant to that particular passage. Of course it's not meant as an insult. But putting aside the fact that the people on the other side of the political aisle can take it as such, the notion that they are "right-wing" or "anti-Medicare" is an opinion, and opinions are only permitted on WP if they're not only relevant, but attributed to cited sources. It is better to describe them using neutral language, and even then, only if it's relevant to the passage, and this is regardless of whether the person reminding you of this contributes "substantially" to the project. Even if someone whose work is mostly fact-tagging points this out, the issue is whether their point has merit. Thanks for responding. :-) Nightscream (talk) 22:56, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


Mike Duffy[edit]

{{help}} We have some serious BLP violations happening here: Mike Duffy and an edit war is shaping up. Request page protect until Duffy's Senate appointment is out of the news cycle. (talk) 00:29, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Full protect asked for. In the meantime, try to set up a discussion on the talk page. NuclearWarfare contact meMy work 00:39, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Hello re: Al Stewart re: Richard Grenville[edit]

Regarding Al Stewart, what mutiny are you refering to ? in regards to Lord Grenville. I undid your good faith effort then further specified Richard Grenville as the song specifies Spanish Main and sailor motifs. I hope that if you have a specific reference, you will share it with me. Peace, rkmlai (talk) 00:42, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Lake Superior and Category:Volcanic areas of Canada[edit]

I have readded this category on the Lake Superior article because there IS volcanics at Lake Superior from volcanism of the Midcontinent Rift System. And it dosen't matter if there has not been active volcanism in the area for millions of years. What matters is the volcanics. I don't know if you are American or Canadian, but I suggest you learn more about the areas geology. Black Tusk (talk) 06:05, 26 February 2009 (UTC)


All areas are originally vulcanic. The Lake Superior area has not been active since the Jurassic, at the very latest.Spoonkymonkey (talk) 00:19, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

I have replied on my talk page. Black Tusk (talk) 18:22, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Please don't leave[edit]

Hi.

I see on your userpage you said, "Spoonkymoney has left Wikipedia due to its leftist bias and its cabal system. Find another sucker, Jimbo."

I can relate to your reason - very, very much. I added true, well sourced info that was critical of Barack Obama to wikipedia, and it kept getting deleted. I know how you feel. Now, I am no longer allowed to edit any articles about Obama. I do think there is a liberal bias at wikipedia. However, the majority consensus was to not include the info that I added. I don't like that, but that's how it works around here.

That being said, there are other editors here who can relate to your frustration besides me. And there are plenty of other articles that you could contribute to that don't get censored.

Grundle2600 (talk) 03:14, 25 December 2009 (UTC)


I've still been using Wikipedia once in a while, but now I overcome my urges and leave the typos, clunky writing and POV alone. The people who spend their time politicking on Wikipedia can use some of their energy to actually improving it. I'm done. The Wikipedia elite like Tony Sidaway simply play the rest of us as fools. Spoonkymonkey (talk) 21:21, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Please check here and see if you approve what I've done. MalcolmMcDonald (talk) 19:52, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
If there is a list of scientists who no longer buy what IPCC is selling, add this guy: Andrew Weaver a climatologist who says the leadership of the IPCC has allowed it to advocate for action on global warming, rather than serve simply as a neutral science advisory body. "There's been some dangerous crossing of that line echoing the published sentiments of other top climate scientists in the U.S. and Europe this week". In Canada, he was the go-to guy for the IPCC side on TV panels. Now he's jumped the fence, wants IPCC overhauled, doubts the solidity of some of their science, and thinks IPCC's chief should go. Spoonkymonkey (talk) 13:47, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
You want List of scientists opposing the mainstream scientific assessment of global warming. You will get an unbelievably hostile reception unless you can demonstrate this man actually opposes the mainstream view, and I'm not convinced he does. It might be better to ask politely at IPCC whether you could insert a referenced section to the effect that a few/some/many climatologists now think it's not fit for purpose. MalcolmMcDonald (talk) 18:22, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs[edit]

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Please be aware that articles related to climate change are particularly sensitive at the moment[edit]

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Tree ring flaws to AGW[edit]

Hi SM - are the tree-ring problems documented anywhere? Do you think they warrant a new article or a new section of an existing article? MalcolmMcDonald (talk) 08:14, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Please keep in mind that Wikipedia talkpages are not a general forum for discussion and should not be used as a battleground[edit]

Please take more care in future to collaborate productively and civilly with your fellow volunteer editors, and use talkpages solely for discussion of improvements to the related article instead of for general discussion. In the following difference links, you violate the WP:NOTFORUM, WP:NOTBATTLEGROUND, or Civility policies, and show indications of WP:tendentious editing, which can become disruptive: [1], [2], [3] (this is the second time you reopened that discussion), [4], [5], [6], [7]. Regards, - 2/0 (cont.) 08:07, 8 February 2010 (UTC)


I believe these are important issues that have a direct bearing in the tone and POV of the article, and I resent the implied threat of your note. I would like to know if you have sent similar notes to the True Believers.Spoonkymonkey (talk) 22:21, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Gordon Lightfoot[edit]

Just wanted to say good job for keeping the rumored death (which turned out to be a hoax) off Gordon Lightfoot's page when it broke. — CIS (talk | stalk) 03:01, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! I smelled a rat... Spoonkymonkey (talk) 18:00, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Jeffrey Harvey (biologist)[edit]

Please do not replace the PROD template again on this article. If you still want it to be deleted, you may pursue WP:AFD, but putting the PROD template on the article again will be considered disruptive behavior. --After Midnight 0001 22:29, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Survey[edit]

Hi Spoonkymonkey,

I am a PhD student at the Open University of Catalonia. I am currently preparing a research project about the governance processes in online collaborative communities, and I would like to kindly ask for your collaboration based on your experience in Wikipedia. Interested in participating? Please drop me a note in my talk page. This would take around 20 of your time.

Thanks! Aresj (talk) 10:19, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your note. Don't worry if you feel you don't know much about Wikipedia governance. Your insights are interesting as well. Thanks. Aresj (talk) 09:49, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Anataphrus[edit]

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Rachel Marsden[edit]

Please do not make such massive changed to sourced material without discussion and agreement from other editors. The version you are removing has been largely intact for well over a year and appears to reflect consensus. --Ckatzchatspy 04:27, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Party Favours[edit]

None of the Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion apply to this article, and there is an indication of importance (the author seems to be notable, and the book "won considerable attention"). I've added a notability template - if you still want to request deletion, you could start an AFD or propose to merge the article. Peter E. James (talk) 10:52, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Unwarranted revert[edit]

Hi there,

you'll notice I undid your revert of some of my additions. See [8]. I'm not going to assume bad faith on your part, but the parts you removed are all well sourced, and to the best of my judgement, not contentious. The award exists. The Jeb Bush interview exists. The Chair exists. I noted your revert at the AfD discussion, too. Thank you and good night. CharlieEchoTango (talk) 04:13, 15 July 2011 (UTC)


Piss off. Spoonkymonkey (talk) 22:27, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kai Nagata[edit]

This is just kind of a pet peeve of mine, not a really big deal, but the guide to deletion states: "To avoid confusing newcomers, the reasons given for deletion should avoid Wikipedia-specific acronyms." AFD is one of the first "behind the scenes" places many new user come to, and WP:BLP1E is not going to mean anything to them without context. In this case the term was not even linked, so a new user unfamiliar with shortcuts would have no basis for understanding and responding to your nomination. Just thought I'd mention that. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:20, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

That's nice.Spoonkymonkey (talk) 22:26, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Well, I'm glad you agree, always a pleasure to meet another civiil, consideate Wikipedian. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:54, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Kai Nagata[edit]

Hi, Spoonkymonkey. It's a customary courtesy to inform the creator when nominating nominating an article for deletion in order to provide him or her the opportunity to address the nominator's concerns and improve the article as an alternative to deletion and to participate in the deletion discussion. Candidly, I had forgotten I created this article and am latterly more ambivalent about whether the subject merited one, but I still ought to have been afforded the opportunity to improve it and to make the case for its being kept. Cheers. -- Rrburke (talk) 23:55, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

That's nice. It really wan't an article, in my view, just a few lines of type. Your complaint is longer and more detailed than the article itself. Spoonkymonkey (talk) 12:00, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

No, it's more than nice: since it's a longstanding, near-universal custom that touches on Wikipedia's core value of civility (q.v.), it's what virtually every Wikipedian will expect of you. As there is no practical impediment to informing an article's creator that the article is up for deletion, there is never any excuse for not doing so -- except perhaps inexperience. But now that I've made you aware of this expectation, I trust I've saved you the embarrassment of repeating your error. -- Rrburke (talk) 13:43, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Golly, you need to get out more. Spoonkymonkey (talk) 00:13, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Your kind invitation is unexpected, but I'm afraid my social calendar is currently full.
On the other hand, have you considered whether you have the requisite temperament to work effectively in a collaborative environment like Wikipedia? Not everyone does. The signs so far, and not merely from this exchange, aren't terribly propitious. Fortunately the internet offers a nearly limitless number of alternative venues for supercilious snarkiness and tiresome headbutting. -- Rrburke (talk) 01:21, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

I just have no time for tiresome twits.Spoonkymonkey (talk) 19:52, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

That's nice, but if you can find the time to nominate others' work for deletion, you can find the time to leave the customary notifications. To do otherwise makes this appear as an attempt to slip something under the radar. 66.102.83.61 (talk) 19:40, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

September 2011[edit]

This is your only warning; if you make personal attacks on other people again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:22, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Look, I spend all kinds of time fixing Wikipedia. I have donated hours and hours of my labour, free, to this, without a whit of thanks. All I hear is complaints. Wikipedia, I like. Wikipedians --no one in particular, of course -- are tiresome. This is MY talk page. Go whine somewhere else.Spoonkymonkey (talk) 21:18, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

David Menzies[edit]

I declined your speedy deletion request on David Menzies as the article is referenced and makes (fairly weak) claims that could arguably be counted as notable. Feel free to take it to WP:PROD or WP:AFD. --GraemeL (talk) 15:12, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Alex Mihailovich[edit]

Hi Spoonkymonkey, I have declined your speedy deletion nomination on Alex Mihailovich, as 'not notable is not a valid criteria for speedy deletion. While it is a valid criteria for deletion via PROD and AfD, to be eligable for CSD there only has to be an indication of importance, being a corospondent for a notable TV show on a national television network is such an indication. If you still feel it should be deleted, feel free to nominate it via PROD or AfD. Cheers, --kelapstick(bainuu) 23:48, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Wallace Wilson[edit]

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The Canadian parliament website maintains a database of all MPs and all Senators, past and present. There was no one named Wallace Wilson. -- P.T. Aufrette (talk) 21:29, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Pierre Bourque (journalist)[edit]

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Neil Armstrong[edit]

Please stop removing the source. It's reliable, and is sufficient until a more extensive report is available. And it's certainly better than nothing. Cresix (talk) 19:27, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

It IS nothing. It's second-hand and proves nothing.Spoonkymonkey (talk) 19:27, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

The British Broadcasting Corporation and Canadian Broadcasting Corporation are now both reporting Neil Armstrong as dead. RIP. 66.102.83.61 (talk) 19:38, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

That's fine. Now you have something. You could have just as easily been wrong, as so many people were with Gordon Lightfoot and several other cases where Wikipedia was made to look stupid by over-eager, half-bright "editors."

Spoonkymonkey (talk) 13:12, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Neil Armstrong[edit]

He's dead. [9] Please stop your unconstructive edits. Rreagan007 (talk) 19:29, 25 August 2012 (UTC)


You were finally able to prove it. I went through a similar situation when the Internet buzzed with a hoax report that Gordon Lightfoot was dead. When Wikipedia says someone is dead, I want to see PROOF -- not a one-line story on an Australian web site quoting a US news agency. I want to see a solid report. Spoonkymonkey (talk) 19:33, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

And of course, what you want is the way it should be. Please forgive us. We forget that you are the Wikiboss. Cresix (talk) 19:35, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

No. I want verifiable facts, not your rush to be first with news. Get a life. Spoonkymonkey (talk) 19:39, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Armstrong's demise *is* verifiable. Please stop leaving edit summaries like "(→‎Neil Armstrong: get a life, dickhead)" and be WP:CIVIL? 66.102.83.61 (talk) 19:44, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
Instead of arguing, why didn't you take that few seconds to fire up a Google News search and seek more sources? 76.14.240.12 (talk) 19:48, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Will you people quit harassing me? At the time, I did google to see if there were verifiable sources and all I saw was the Australian piece saying NBC was reporting the death. There was no NBC story in line at that time. I had stopped Wikipedia from being embarrassed when people like you had wanted to report Gordon Lightfoot dead when the only source was a Canadian reporter tweeting what turned out to be an inaccurate rumor. Better to be careful than to jump the gun on someone's death. Spoonkymonkey (talk) 13:10, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

August 2012[edit]

"reckless and stupid"
"get a life, dickhead"

Please stop attacking other editors. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Cresix (talk) 15:01, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Quit coming here to attack me for trying to be careful.Spoonkymonkey (talk) 13:46, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion declined: Lisa Kirbie[edit]

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You have written: Remove "fact" tags. Any decent history of the German collapse will verify this. Antony Beevor's

  • If your sources support the 2 million story, why don't you quote them? Which Beevor, which page? Recent German sources say rather 600 000. Even the German government foundation Flucht, Vertreibung, Versoehnung doesn't support the 2 million.
  • There was Flucht and Vertreibung, not only Vertreibung and not after the war but during and after the war. Xx236 (talk) 12:52, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

James Bacque[edit]

Could you take a look at this again? The version at [10] seems at least at first glance much betteer and certainly easier to understand. The current version seems to wander all over the place about Ambrose's opinions and I think gives them too much weight. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 06:51, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

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