Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/List of Soviet armies
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Army (Soviet Army)[edit]
This article went through a WPMILHIST peer review some months ago, and I've implemented virtually all the suggestions made there. It's currently rated B. Looking for either an endorsement of A-class status or pointers on what I need to fix to get it upgraded. Many thanks. Buckshot06 (talk) 10:13, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Roger Davies[edit]
Comment I'm a bit confused by this article and am hoping that you can clarify it for me. What is its purpose? Is it a list of Soviet armies or is an explication of what "army" means in Soviet terms? --ROGER DAVIES talk 17:58, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Unlike most of the Western armies, many, many Soviet armies do not have individual pages. This page provides a bit of information and explains the differences with Western field armies. I've added that to the first paragraph. Buckshot06 (talk) 21:59, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the explanation. Perhaps changing the article title to something more specific - like Soviet armies (1918–????) - might help? --ROGER DAVIES talk 12:27, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- What about Soviet armies 1918-1991? Buckshot06 (talk) 11:21, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the explanation. Perhaps changing the article title to something more specific - like Soviet armies (1918–????) - might help? --ROGER DAVIES talk 12:27, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
H.C. Berkowitz[edit]
CommentI also put these on the discussion page. Yes, I agree the purpose is a little unclear, although you do mention that a Soviet (and for that matter Japanese) were smaller than Western ones. In elaborating on that, a worthwhile aside is that Soviet ranks went from colonel to major general.
- As they missed out Brigadier General and inserted Colonel General, only the names changed, and so I don't think that's relevant. Buckshot06 (talk) 11:23, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Might clarify that Guards designation neither changed the organization of the unit, nor was assigned temporarily.
- Will clarify once I have confirmation; at division level 'Guards' did mean a bigger TOE. Buckshot06 (talk) 21:59, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Clarify, if that [what? Buckshot06 (talk) 23:25, 13 April 2008 (UTC)] is the case, the date of these designations. It's confusing to see a redesignation when an Army was reassigned to GSFG, considering that the later name is more likely to be known.[reply]
- Can you explain what you mean? I don't fully understand. Buckshot06 (talk) 21:59, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Reflist should be 2-column.
- How do I do that? Buckshot06 (talk) 21:59, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- {{reflist|2}}
- Done ! Buckshot06 (talk) 21:14, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- {{reflist|2}}
Howard C. Berkowitz (talk) 20:28, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Piotrus[edit]
Comment. I usually go for GA status before the A status, GA reviewers offer some useful input. Lead is way to short and should be expanded.
- Done. Buckshot06 (talk) 21:14, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There are too few inline cites (many paragraphs have no refs).
- That's true for the text, and I'm current looking for references, but for the list of armies, to do that exhaustively, there are two main sources - Feskov 2004 and Bonn 2005. I would have repeated, endless cites to one or other of those two works, which are already cited repeatedly and are in the bibliography at the bottom. Is it the consensus view that I should do that - what do other people think? (I'll quite happily insert them, if slowly, if the majority so feels). Buckshot06 (talk) 10:47, 16 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
List of Soviet Armies in the Civil War should have individual armies ilinked, like the following List of Soviet Armies in World War II has (same hold true for other lists - ilink all armies, they were all notable, don't be afraid of red links). Lists of armies of the interwar and postwar series should be added.
- Fixed by changing dates - it seems the Sovs worked in two period, Civil War and since.. Buckshot06 (talk) 21:14, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
PS. While this does not concern this article, {{Armies of the Soviet Army}} should be added to all subarticles about individual armies.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 21:46, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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