Bahsahwahbee: Revision history

5 June 2024

• curprev 18:5918:59, 5 June 2024‎ WereSpielChequers talk contribs‎ m 22,124 bytes +1‎ not dogs undo

28 January 2024

• curprev 02:1802:18, 28 January 2024‎ DeoVindice talk contribs‎ m 22,123 bytes −315‎ Added in details about authorship of Wilson's account undo Tag: Visual edit
• curprev 00:3200:32, 28 January 2024‎ DeoVindice talk contribs‎ m 22,438 bytes +1,052‎ Undid revision 1199312366 by Reywas92 (talk) Wilson's account is fictionalized. The army reports and newspaper article are reliable sources. undo Tag: Undo

26 January 2024

• curprev 19:1419:14, 26 January 2024‎ Reywas92 talk contribs‎ 21,386 bytes −1,052‎ +sources undo Tags: Reverted Visual edit

29 October 2023

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• curprev 19:3219:32, 29 October 2023‎ Lightiggy talk contribs‎ 22,442 bytes +697‎ Added details about aftermath undo Tag: Visual edit
• curprev 19:0819:08, 29 October 2023‎ Lightiggy talk contribs‎ 21,745 bytes +4‎ Added link undo Tag: Visual edit

27 October 2023

• curprev 17:2717:27, 27 October 2023‎ WikiCleanerBot talk contribs‎ m 21,741 bytes 0‎ v2.05b - Bot T20 CW#61 - Fix errors for CW project (Reference before punctuation) undo Tag: WPCleaner

26 October 2023

• curprev 14:0214:02, 26 October 2023‎ DeoVindice talk contribs‎ m 21,741 bytes +98‎ Added specific location of Gay's skirmish with the warriors. undo Tag: Visual edit
• curprev 13:5913:59, 26 October 2023‎ DeoVindice talk contribs‎ m 21,643 bytes 0‎ Corrected date undo Tag: Visual edit

25 October 2023

• curprev 06:5706:57, 25 October 2023‎ Daniel Case talk contribs‎ 21,643 bytes 0‎ +cvt undo

23 October 2023

• curprev 23:3423:34, 23 October 2023‎ DeoVindice talk contribs‎ m 21,643 bytes +70‎ Wilson does not mention Spring Valley at all. undo Tag: Visual edit
• curprev 22:1322:13, 23 October 2023‎ DeoVindice talk contribs‎ 21,573 bytes +848‎ Undid revision 1181507189 by Reywas92 (talk) Sorry, the PDF is merely an application to register Bahsahwahbee as a place of historic significance. It is not a peer-reviewed and academically rigorous document. You may have written it yourself. It relies on Wilson's unsubstantiated and unverified account written 51 years after the event. Both of these sources constitute original research. undo Tag: Undo
• curprev 13:2313:23, 23 October 2023‎ Reywas92 talk contribs‎ 20,725 bytes −848‎ vandalism undo Tags: Undo Reverted
• curprev 12:5312:53, 23 October 2023‎ DeoVindice talk contribs‎ m 21,573 bytes +848‎ Undid revision 1181422485 by Reywas92 (talk) The PDF you cited states "The Spring Valley Massacre of 1859 does not appear to have occurred within the Bahsahwahbee TCP area itself." Wilson provides no date and location for the alleged incident. Unless you can provide a date and location, Wilson's story will be removed as your original research. undo Tags: Undo Reverted

22 October 2023

• curprev 23:1723:17, 22 October 2023‎ Reywas92 talk contribs‎ 20,725 bytes −848‎ Gay's source does not discuss any relationship to Bahsahwahbee or Swamp Cedars area; you are using only primary sources. https://web.archive.org/web/20171022142414/http://water.nv.gov/hearings/past/Spring%20-%20Cave%20-%20Dry%20Lake%20and%20Delamar%20Valleys%202017/Exhibits/CTGR/CTGR_EXH_021.pdf does connect to the site. Unless you have independent sources making a connection to this site that is on the NRHP , this will be removed as original research.. undo Tag: Reverted
• curprev 22:1322:13, 22 October 2023‎ DeoVindice talk contribs‎ m 21,573 bytes −609‎ Undid revision 1181371791 by Reywas92 (talk) Wilson's story has no date or location. It cannot be confirmed it relates to Bahsahwahee. Gay's report has relevant landmarks and dates. It is also corroborated by the Mormon newspaper. undo Tag: Undo
• curprev 17:1517:15, 22 October 2023‎ Reywas92 talk contribs‎ 22,182 bytes +609‎ section is about the Spring Valley Massacre of 1859 that occurred near Bahsahwahbee. Gay's account is not confirmed to be about this event or in this location. undo Tags: Undo Reverted
• curprev 10:3010:30, 22 October 2023‎ DeoVindice talk contribs‎ 21,573 bytes −609‎ Moved the substantiated and documented evidence to the beginning. Wilson's anecdotal and unverified account should only have a passing mention. undo Tags: Reverted Visual edit
• curprev 03:5103:51, 22 October 2023‎ Reywas92 talk contribs‎ 22,182 bytes −291‎ nope. not about this place. you're just trying to justify a massacre of Indians, whatever actually happened, because they did it first, using a quote from someone you don't even consider reliable. undo Tag: Undo

21 October 2023

• curprev 23:2423:24, 21 October 2023‎ DeoVindice talk contribs‎ m 22,473 bytes +291‎ Undid revision 1181207982 by Reywas92 (talk) The quote is necessary. It is the introduction to Wilson's story and provides the context for the US army's pursuit of the murdering Indian band. It explains why Lt Gay's detachment attacked the Indians and inflicted 20 casualties. undo Tags: Undo Reverted
• curprev 15:3615:36, 21 October 2023‎ Reywas92 talk contribs‎ 22,182 bytes −291‎ This article is about Bahsahwahbee, it's not necessary to include a quotatation about what happened at another place. undo Tags: Undo Reverted

20 October 2023

• curprev 22:4822:48, 20 October 2023‎ DeoVindice talk contribs‎ m 22,473 bytes +291‎ Undid revision 1181050091 by Reywas92 (talk) Do not cherry pick quotes. If you accept Wilson's account then you must include this statement too. undo Tags: Undo Reverted
• curprev 15:0515:05, 20 October 2023‎ Reywas92 talk contribs‎ 22,182 bytes −291‎ →‎Spring Valley Massacre of 1859: was there evidence he was at this event besides his own book? undo Tags: Reverted Visual edit
• curprev 13:5913:59, 20 October 2023‎ DeoVindice talk contribs‎ m 22,473 bytes +29‎ There is no evidence that Wilson was even there apart from his own book. Please provide substantiating evidence that he was present. undo Tag: Visual edit

19 October 2023

• curprev 01:0601:06, 19 October 2023‎ Reywas92 talk contribs‎ 22,444 bytes −306‎ this citation does not prove a negative. undo Tag: Undo
• curprev 00:3900:39, 19 October 2023‎ DeoVindice talk contribs‎ m 22,750 bytes +306‎ Added citation undo Tags: Reverted Visual edit

18 October 2023

• curprev 21:1621:16, 18 October 2023‎ Lightiggy talk contribs‎ 22,444 bytes −84‎ Redundant. Year is already mentioned. undo Tag: Visual edit
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10 October 2023

• curprev 13:3913:39, 10 October 2023‎ DeoVindice talk contribs‎ m 22,660 bytes +1,457‎ Added Gay's report of what actually occurred. undo Tag: Visual edit
• curprev 13:2213:22, 10 October 2023‎ DeoVindice talk contribs‎ m 21,203 bytes +291‎ Important context to the army's pursuit of the Indians who massacred the emigrant train. undo Tag: Visual edit
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6 October 2023

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3 October 2023

• curprev 07:0307:03, 3 October 2023‎ DeoVindice talk contribs‎ 20,773 bytes +2,402‎ Added Wilson's details about the alleged massacre. Added contemporary newspaper account with different casualty figures. undo Tag: Visual edit
• curprev 03:4503:45, 3 October 2023‎ Reywas92 talk contribs‎ 18,371 bytes −2,922‎ revert original research, per the talk page, you are welcome to add an "other side" that discusses the historicity of the event, you may not make your own conclusions from totally unrelated primary sources. undo Tags: Manual revert 2017 wikitext editor
• curprev 02:2702:27, 3 October 2023‎ DeoVindice talk contribs‎ 21,293 bytes +2,922‎ Undid revision 1178335550 by Reywas92 (talk) Inconsistent use of evidence. Reliance on unverified allegations. Both sides should be presented. undo Tags: Undo Reverted
• curprev 00:5600:56, 3 October 2023‎ Reywas92 talk contribs‎ 18,371 bytes −2,922‎ no, this is not the place to discuss whether he may have liked the Indians or not, that quote has nothing to do with this place or story, the source does not analyze it in context, and it's WP:OR to use the WP:PRIMARY source this way. undo Tags: Manual revert Reverted 2017 wikitext editor
• curprev 00:4400:44, 3 October 2023‎ DeoVindice talk contribs‎ m 21,293 bytes +2‎ Added paragraph break undo Tags: Reverted Visual edit
• curprev 00:3500:35, 3 October 2023‎ DeoVindice talk contribs‎ m 21,291 bytes +935‎ Added counterpoints to Wilson's story undo Tags: Reverted Visual edit
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1 October 2023

• curprev 14:3714:37, 1 October 2023‎ Reywas92 talk contribs‎ 18,371 bytes −1,985‎ MOS:ALLEGED, lengthy quote not needed, retain some information undo Tags: Reverted 2017 wikitext editor
• curprev 09:3809:38, 1 October 2023‎ DeoVindice talk contribs‎ m 20,356 bytes +7‎ No edit summary undo Tag: Visual edit
• curprev 09:3609:36, 1 October 2023‎ DeoVindice talk contribs‎ m 20,349 bytes +1,960‎ Added additional context and information undo Tag: Visual edit
• curprev 06:2006:20, 1 October 2023‎ DeoVindice talk contribs‎ 18,389 bytes +46‎ Remains allegation only. Wilson is the only report. undo Tag: Visual edit
• curprev 03:4803:48, 1 October 2023‎ Reywas92 talk contribs‎ 18,343 bytes +57‎ rephrase undo Tag: Visual edit
• curprev 03:4503:45, 1 October 2023‎ Reywas92 talk contribs‎ 18,286 bytes +95‎ Restored revision 1175262452 by Reywas92 (talk): We have a source with an estimate of casualties, so don't say it's unknown undo Tags: Twinkle Undo
• curprev 00:0700:07, 1 October 2023‎ DeoVindice talk contribs‎ m 18,191 bytes −95‎ There is no documentary evidence for this alleged incident apart from Wilson's account (written in 1926). These qualifications must be made evident. undo Tags: Reverted Visual edit

13 September 2023

• curprev 20:2620:26, 13 September 2023‎ Reywas92 talk contribs‎ 18,286 bytes −942‎ it already states Wilson's account is the only one undo Tags: Manual revert 2017 wikitext editor