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:::Except the coverage today is not a repeat of yesterday, it is the front page of the New York Times as commentary: Online Musings Point to Student’s State of Mind Before a Suicide. And is on the Op-Ed page of several New Jersey papers in print. The guide you pointed to says: "For example, routine news reporting on things like announcements, sports, or celebrities is not a sufficient basis for inclusion in the encyclopedia." This doesn't fit any of those categories. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|talk]]) 01:52, 1 October 2010 (UTC) |
:::Except the coverage today is not a repeat of yesterday, it is the front page of the New York Times as commentary: Online Musings Point to Student’s State of Mind Before a Suicide. And is on the Op-Ed page of several New Jersey papers in print. The guide you pointed to says: "For example, routine news reporting on things like announcements, sports, or celebrities is not a sufficient basis for inclusion in the encyclopedia." This doesn't fit any of those categories. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|talk]]) 01:52, 1 October 2010 (UTC) |
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*<ec>The event is clearly notable and this isn't a passing news story given the massive coverage. The biography is less likely to make it, but not and open-and-shut case given the massive amount of coverage. Not a speedy, not a BLP, no reason to ignore process, and if the massive coverage continues will make it past [[WP:BIO1E]] just as [[Rodney King]] did. '''Overturn''' [[User:Hobit|Hobit]] ([[User talk:Hobit|talk]]) 01:56, 1 October 2010 (UTC) |
*<ec>The event is clearly notable and this isn't a passing news story given the massive coverage. The biography is less likely to make it, but not and open-and-shut case given the massive amount of coverage. Not a speedy, not a BLP, no reason to ignore process, and if the massive coverage continues will make it past [[WP:BIO1E]] just as [[Rodney King]] did. '''Overturn''' [[User:Hobit|Hobit]] ([[User talk:Hobit|talk]]) 01:56, 1 October 2010 (UTC) |
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*'''Overturn and list at AfD'''. No applicable speedy criterion. No overriding reason not to debate according to standard process. Taking administrative shortcuts in the name of sensitivity is self-defeating. --[[User:SmokeyJoe|SmokeyJoe]] ([[User talk:SmokeyJoe|talk]]) 02:22, 1 October 2010 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 02:22, 1 October 2010
It was speedied as BLP1E, but the dude is dead, so BLP cannot be evoked. It is already the second day of coverage on front page of New York Times, so 1E cannot be evoked. Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 01:17, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
- Endorse deletion: The fact that the one event was reported in the news for two consecutive days does not mean it's no longer a single event; per WP:1E the individual is not notable, and per WP:NOTNEWS, the event isn't suitable for encyclopaedic coverage either. It doesn't meet the speedy deletion criteria, but it uncontroversially fails WP:1E and WP:NOTNEWS so an IAR delete was reasonable in this case. If there is significant opposition to the IAR deletion then by all means restore it and take it to AfD, but it's unlikely to stand a snowball's chance in hell of surviving AfD per the policies above. GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 01:25, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
- Except the coverage today is not a repeat of yesterday, it is the front page of the New York Times as commentary: Online Musings Point to Student’s State of Mind Before a Suicide. And is on the Op-Ed page of several New Jersey papers in print. The guide you pointed to says: "For example, routine news reporting on things like announcements, sports, or celebrities is not a sufficient basis for inclusion in the encyclopedia." This doesn't fit any of those categories. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 01:52, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
- <ec>The event is clearly notable and this isn't a passing news story given the massive coverage. The biography is less likely to make it, but not and open-and-shut case given the massive amount of coverage. Not a speedy, not a BLP, no reason to ignore process, and if the massive coverage continues will make it past WP:BIO1E just as Rodney King did. Overturn Hobit (talk) 01:56, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
- Overturn and list at AfD. No applicable speedy criterion. No overriding reason not to debate according to standard process. Taking administrative shortcuts in the name of sensitivity is self-defeating. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 02:22, 1 October 2010 (UTC)