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Better Than Today

Nominator(s): I Help, When I Can. ^[12] 09:23, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Last FAC, the reviewers told me to take this article back to peer review, which I have done. I feel that all comments are now resolved. I Help, When I Can. ^[12] 09:23, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Source review - spotchecks not done. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:47, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Be consistent in whether you provide publisher locations or not
- I added locations when a certain publication with many different nation versions was used more than once. Eg. Citing 7 digital in France then citing it in Germany. I Help, When I Can. ^[12] 23:24, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
What are the qualifications of the author of this blog?
- Reporter for BBC Music. I Help, When I Can. ^[12] 22:51, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Be consistent in how publishers are notated. For example, compare refs 4 and 26
- Done. I Help, When I Can. ^[12] 23:24, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - Not done - that was an example only, and inconsistencies remain. Nikkimaria (talk) 04:02, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ref 31: publisher?
- Because the source is a video, the {{cite video}} template is used. I Help, When I Can. ^[12] 23:24, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
What makes this a high-quality reliable source? What is the original source of the embedded video?
- He is a reporter for Yahoo Music. The embedded video is the record label's upload. I Help, When I Can. ^[12] 23:24, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
What makes this a high-quality reliable source? This? This? This? This?
- They are used for reviews, not citing facts in the article. I Help, When I Can. ^[12] 23:24, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - A) No, that's not the case - for example, one of those sources is used to cite facts about performance practice, and B) how does that make these high-quality reliable sources? Nikkimaria (talk) 04:02, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    - Give me an example of A so I can better address this. Those are the opinions of those publications. Opinion ≠ fact. Reliability is not a factor here. I Help, When I Can. ^[12] 04:09, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      - Ref 34, for instance, cites facts about the music video. As to your second point, we must consider why the opinions of those publications are relevant here. To take an extreme example: if I, a non-notable writer with no professional experience reviewing music, were to create a personal blog to claim that "Better Than Today" in my opinion proved that Minogue was from Pluto, would you include this opinion in the article? Reliability is always a factor, and FAs are required to use high-quality reliable sources. Nikkimaria (talk) 04:30, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
All web citations need access dates. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:47, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. I Help, When I Can. ^[12] 23:34, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support This is really well done.

There is no alt text for the two "Music video" images (which is allowed), but the caption on "Background and synopsis" reads more like alt text. Consider moving it to the alt text and replacing with a less descriptive but more informative caption.
- Done. I Help, When I Can. ^[12] 23:38, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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 ***A) No, that's not the case - for example, one of those sources is used to cite facts about performance practice, and B) how does that make these high-quality reliable sources? [[User:Nikkimaria|Nikkimaria]] ([[User talk:Nikkimaria|talk]]) 04:02, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 ****Give me an example of A so I can better address this. Those are the opinions of those publications. Opinion ≠ fact. Reliability is not a factor here. ''' ''[[User:IHelpWhenICan|I Help, When I Can.]]'' '''<sup>[[User talk :IHelpWhenICan|[12]]]</sup> 04:09, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
+*****Ref 34, for instance, cites facts about the music video. As to your second point, we must consider why the opinions of those publications are relevant here. To take an extreme example: if I, a non-notable writer with no professional experience reviewing music, were to create a personal blog to claim that "Better Than Today" in my opinion proved that Minogue was from Pluto, would you include this opinion in the article? Reliability is always a factor, and FAs are required to use high-quality reliable sources. [[User:Nikkimaria|Nikkimaria]] ([[User talk:Nikkimaria|talk]]) 04:30, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 *All web citations need access dates. [[User:Nikkimaria|Nikkimaria]] ([[User talk:Nikkimaria|talk]]) 16:47, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
 **'''Done'''. ''' ''[[User:IHelpWhenICan|I Help, When I Can.]]'' '''<sup>[[User talk :IHelpWhenICan|[12]]]</sup> 23:34, 18 July 2011 (UTC)