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EricBarbour (talk · contribs) / Metasonix Metasonix

Just awful

This page was in terrible shape, and it had sat that way for nearly 2 years. Apparently people who like tube noise boxes are inherently inept at editing Wikipedia. Just to reiterate the principals of WP:

You are not allowed to put original research in an article. That means you can never say something like "the Butt Probe can obviously be heard all over the new Anal Cunt record". While it may seem obvious, and the singer might even say "here comes the part with the Metasonix box" you can't put your own observations in a WP article.

Rumors and forums are not acceptable references (I can't even believe I have to write that). You might think all this academic junk is meaningless on a page for noise boxes, but these rules are what keep Wikipedia from being a free-for-all jumble of BS. Try Encyclopedia Dramatica or Uncyclopedia if you want to cite "something I heard from a guy on a forum" as a reference.

Eric Barbour, I think you should stay away from this page, or at least do what other people do when editing their own article: come up with a sock puppet so it's not so obvious when you're using this page for self-promotion. Conical Johnson (talk) 01:37, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is it really that awful?

This page seems well balanced and informative. Eric Barbour has made significant contributions to the art of designing vacuum synthesisers for audio applications and his equipment is used by many famous musicians. He's an aurthority on vacuum tubes and their application and has written material for Vacuum Tube Valley magazine which has been in print since 1995. It seems reasonable to allow him a place on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moogolplex (talk • contribs) 17:59, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This page deserves special treatment!

Bring out the Wikipediocracy Brigade! The page of a regular is being treated like any other Wikipedia page. Any other Wikipedia page would have COI and connected contributor tags on the article and talk page. Not this one, because friends of the subject don't want it way. 2600:1017:B425:E694:F066:709:AAF3:668E (talk) 13:17, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

you seem upset. There are ointments for that. :^) 2607:FB90:270B:F087:9AA3:417A:F4F1:6B0F (talk) 14:54, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Is there an ointment that cures the pain and itching of Chronic Hypocrisy? 2600:1017:B405:F961:BCCA:54B6:2668:4965 (talk) 16:46, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Users" section

Metasonix users include Trent Reznor, Robert Rich, U2, Tim Skold, Richard James, Insect Joy,^[1] Alec Empire from Atari Teenage Riot, Billy Gibbons, Nikki Sixx, plus famous producers such as Bob Rock and Hans Zimmer.

References

^ Garisto, Julie (April 10, 2009). Meet ... Insect Joy. St. Petersburg Times

Above is all almost unsourced. It is nice PROMO so it needs sourcing before it goes back in. Jytdog (talk) 23:32, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Trent Reznor - [1] (plus pics!) [2] I Dream of Wires - documentary, photo here and so on. Metasonix is also credited on the back of the Year Zero album - Alison ^❤ 23:49, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Rich - His official website, his Twitter, credited on the back cover of his album, Eleven Questions, a second-hand interview (likely not RS, but however) - Alison ^❤ 23:56, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

COI tag

I work at COIN and came here in response to this post - this article was edit warred a bit over today, with regard to a COI tag. I just went over it and checked it for NPOV and sourcing. In my view, its OK now. Jytdog (talk) 23:40, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Whether or not you think the article is "ok now," the COI tag is warranted. Coretheapple (talk) 01:47, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There is no conflict-of-interest, as being members of the same off-wiki forum/website does not instantly make one a collaborator with everyone there. If you have evidence to present to the contrary, then present it, otherwise it is time to drop this miserable farce; WP:BADSITES is dead policy, as much as you may wish to raise it from the dead. Tarc (talk) 03:07, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The founder and owner of this company has no conflict of interest? The tag has nothing to do with Wikipediocracy and "badsites." That's just daft. Coretheapple (talk) 03:22, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

the edit warring over the tag earlier today was on the COI tag article page, not a cc tag on the talk page. Jytdog (talk) 03:57, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

- and over the tag on the page, and Alison, yes it was discussed at COIN, and the consensus is that you need to desist. There was no consensus over whether the tag belongs either in the article or on the talk page, simply that you need to stop restoring it. Coretheapple (talk) 04:24, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I've looked over Eric's contributions to this, and his only addition of substance was removed shortly after he added it (7 years ago... the NAMM show links). The rest of them are categories, and small fixes. Barbour doesn't edit Wikipedia anymore, and I can't say I blame him after this. Regardless, here is a named person who has not edited here in years, and whose contributions were heavily scrutinized, and eventually removed. I won't edit war over the tag anymore, but please consider that when deciding whether to restore it. :^) 2607:FB90:2707:BA4B:75F4:51F5:636C:1E32 (talk) 15:44, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

[garisto2009-1] Garisto, Julie (April 10, 2009). Meet ... Insect Joy. St. Petersburg Times

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	**and over the tag on the page, and Alison, yes it was discussed at COIN, and the consensus is that you need to desist. There was no consensus over whether the tag belongs either in the article or on the talk page, simply that ''you'' need to stop restoring it. [[User:Coretheapple\|Coretheapple]] ([[User talk:Coretheapple\|talk]]) 04:24, 29 June 2015 (UTC)		**and over the tag on the page, and Alison, yes it was discussed at COIN, and the consensus is that you need to desist. There was no consensus over whether the tag belongs either in the article or on the talk page, simply that ''you'' need to stop restoring it. [[User:Coretheapple\|Coretheapple]] ([[User talk:Coretheapple\|talk]]) 04:24, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

			:I've looked over Eric's contributions to this, and his only addition of substance was removed shortly after he added it (7 years ago... the NAMM show links). The rest of them are categories, and small fixes. Barbour doesn't edit Wikipedia anymore, and I can't say I blame him after this. Regardless, here is a named person who has not edited here in years, and whose contributions were heavily scrutinized, and eventually removed. I won't edit war over the tag anymore, but please consider that when deciding whether to restore it. :^) [[Special:Contributions/2607:FB90:2707:BA4B:75F4:51F5:636C:1E32\|2607:FB90:2707:BA4B:75F4:51F5:636C:1E32]] ([[User talk:2607:FB90:2707:BA4B:75F4:51F5:636C:1E32\|talk]]) 15:44, 29 June 2015 (UTC)