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He's not quite a troll, escaped lunatic perhaps, but I suggest you don't feed him, anyway... <span style="font-size:80%;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">[[User:The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick|<font color="red">'''The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick'''</font>]]<sup> [[User talk:The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick|<font color="blue">'''t'''</font>]]</sup></span> 10:04, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
He's not quite a troll, escaped lunatic perhaps, but I suggest you don't feed him, anyway... <span style="font-size:80%;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">[[User:The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick|<font color="red">'''The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick'''</font>]]<sup> [[User talk:The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick|<font color="blue">'''t'''</font>]]</sup></span> 10:04, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
:You both realize that what you're doing is trolling? I'm sure you both wish to be rid of me. Fine, keep your bipolar entrenchment ongoing for as long as you can deceive the rest of Wikipedia, that you intend to resolve the problem. [[User:Catterick|Quot homines tot sententiae: suo quoique mos.]] ([[User talk:Catterick|talk]]) 10:15, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

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Guidance on naming conventions

Hi Ghmyrtle, as a geographer I thought you might be able to advise on this. I don't know if this has been discussed before, but is there any agreement within WikiProject Wales as to the naming conventions on articles about places, landscape features and structures? I know that the general naming conventions for Wales are place, principal area but what is the approach to principal areas themselves? Should they be described by reference to their region, as per this recent edit[1] or simply by reference to Wales as a whole? I see different editors adopting different approaches,e.g. (here and here) and think we should standardise if possible. Thanks. Pondle (talk) 18:14, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not aware that there has ever been a clear consensus within WP Wales. I think that participants at WP:UKGEO would tend to argue that the lead should only refer to Wales, as the second-tier division of the UK, though personally I don't necessarily agree with all of that group's views. However, the problem with using terms like South Wales, West Wales, Mid Wales, North Wales, etc., is that those areas (unlike the regional boundaries within England) do not have clear and unambiguous boundaries. Is Llanelli, say, in South Wales, West Wales, or both? My personal preferences - and that's all they are - would be for each settlement to have a location map, so that readers can see where it is; and for any references to sub-regions within Wales to use lower case titles (eg "south Wales") to avoid any suggestion that there is an unambiguously officially defined area called "South Wales". But I think the question could usefully be raised at WT:WALES. Ghmyrtle (talk) 20:44, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
OK I've started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Welsh Wikipedians' notice board#Naming_conventions. Hope we can get something agreed! Pondle (talk) 16:18, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
There's currently a discussion you may like to participate in at Wikipedia talk:Welsh Wikipedians' notice board#Renaming of key Welsh county articles. Skinsmoke (talk) 23:24, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Cornwall and BW

I'm very unhappy with leaning over backwards to accommodate a political agenda from an avowedly unionist editor. The essence if not a debate about if Cornwall is celtic or not, but about the use of the term "Celtic Nation". Your earlier edit was sensible and clarified matters. Linking the term solely to the Celtic League is misleading. It may not belong in the lede, it may need qualification, but the term is in wider use. --Snowded (talk) 15:36, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't want to get into an argument into who does or doesn't have a "political agenda", given some editors' userboxes... I fully accept the term is in wider use than those two bodies, but I've got a difficulty in identifying whether any of those who use the term don't have a political agenda of their own. I'm happy to compromise, and I think we're getting there. Intemperate comments by editors on either side don't help, and it would be helpful to hear from editors who actually live in Cornwall. Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:43, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think some of the intemperate comments are born out of frustration here, lets see where we go. I think the key thing (to avoid the political agendas) is to focus on the term "Celtic Nations". --Snowded (talk) 15:52, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:57, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Feeding

He's not quite a troll, escaped lunatic perhaps, but I suggest you don't feed him, anyway... The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick t 10:04, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You both realize that what you're doing is trolling? I'm sure you both wish to be rid of me. Fine, keep your bipolar entrenchment ongoing for as long as you can deceive the rest of Wikipedia, that you intend to resolve the problem. Quot homines tot sententiae: suo quoique mos. (talk) 10:15, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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