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The article states that Odilo Globocnik was responsible for setting up the Chelmno extermaination camp. This is incorrect, though he was responsible (as stated) for Belzec, Sobibor, Treblinka and Majdanek. Chelmno was a local initiative of the Wartheland occupation administration under Gaulieter/Reichsstathalter Arthur Greiser, HSSPF Wilhelm Koppe and Sipo chief Ernst Damzog, and was intended only to murder the Jews (and Roma) of that territory, particularly the population of the ghetto of Lodz. Chelmno had nothing to do with Aktion Reinhard and its origins in the "Euthenasia" (T4) operation are very different, starting with the murder of disabled hospital inmates from across West Prussia in gas vans under the command of Herbert Lange who then become Chelmno commandant. [[User:FiftusTheSixth|FiftusTheSixth]] ([[User talk:FiftusTheSixth|talk]]) 09:25, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
The article states that Odilo Globocnik was responsible for setting up the Chelmno extermaination camp. This is incorrect, though he was responsible (as stated) for Belzec, Sobibor, Treblinka and Majdanek. Chelmno was a local initiative of the Wartheland occupation administration under Gaulieter/Reichsstathalter Arthur Greiser, HSSPF Wilhelm Koppe and Sipo chief Ernst Damzog, and was intended only to murder the Jews (and Roma) of that territory, particularly the population of the ghetto of Lodz. Chelmno had nothing to do with Aktion Reinhard and its origins in the "Euthenasia" (T4) operation are very different, starting with the murder of disabled hospital inmates from across West Prussia in gas vans under the command of Herbert Lange who then become Chelmno commandant. [[User:FiftusTheSixth|FiftusTheSixth]] ([[User talk:FiftusTheSixth|talk]]) 09:25, 6 July 2012 (UTC)


== Edit : German Plans for Region ==
== Globocnik's responsibility for other camps in Nazi-occupied Poland ==

After no reply for nine years, I went ahead and removed the reference to Chelmno. It's also not clear what is meant by Globocnik being in charge of all the camps in occupied Poland. That would imply control over the hundreds of camps, sub-camps and labour camps controlled by the WVHA, such as Gross Rosen and Stutthof, and that was certainly not the case. He did, however, control the sub-camps of Majdanek that are not otherwise mentioned: Poniatowa, Trawniki, Budzyn, Blitzyn, Krasnik, Pulawy, Lublin/Lipowa Street, Lublin/Old Airfield. [[User:FiftusTheSixth|FiftusTheSixth]] ([[User talk:FiftusTheSixth|talk]]) 21:21, 10 February 2021 (UTC).


Gianmarco Bresadola writes in his peer-reviewed book that Germany had always planned for an occupation of Italy as this was land that Austria used to have claim under its empire. The other writers did not really discuss this fact and assume that readers would know that Joseph Goebbels had always envisioned the return of the "Habsburg Kingdom of Lombardy- Venetia". I intend to add some information regarding the Nazi plans for a full occupation and seizure of Italy and its political structure as outlined under the German secret initiative Operation 'Alaric'. This article could also be a little bit more concise in the section that outlines military operations within the zone. The two zones which were in Southern Italy were under Germanic rule through extensions of the Reichstag that were positioned in Italy to influence people to adopt Nazi ideology, rather than Mussolini's Fascism.<ref> Gianmarco Bresadola - The Legtimising Strategies of Nazi Administration in Northern Italy </ref>

I intend to add information on the ethno-central composition of the region as Gianmarco Bresadola discusses in his peer reviewed book, as this is crucial to the understanding of how Germany used propaganda to entice support for the Reich. The fascist government had lost support of the fragmented social groups in Trieste, Friuli, and Venezia-Giulia and the collapse of the regime ushered a period of "disorientation" amongst Italians. I would also like to bolster the previous authors writing on the Austro-Hungarian Empire by discussing Freidrich Rainer's use of propaganda to legitimize Nazi operations in Italy. ermans wanted to replace Rome as the capital, and instead appoint Vienna as this would forge cultural links between Vienna and Trieste. They named the zone “Adriatisch Küstenland” because this had been the name used by the Austo-Hungarian empire in the past as it references the areas North of the Adriatic. This was an example of the propaganda that the Germans employed in the zone, as they used every opportunity to evoke feelings of nostalgia in remembrance of the prosperous and imperial past. Lastly, I would like to add more information on the specific tactics that Germans used in the zone, such as the blocking of all Italian news sources in the zone, and the subsequent substitution to German: radio and news. In doing this, they were able to polarize the already fragmented region while still building links to the Austo-Hungarian Empire
Gianmarco Bresadola - The Legitimising Strategies of Nazi Administration in Northern Italy </ref>

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Globocnik did not supervise Chelmno

The article states that Odilo Globocnik was responsible for setting up the Chelmno extermaination camp. This is incorrect, though he was responsible (as stated) for Belzec, Sobibor, Treblinka and Majdanek. Chelmno was a local initiative of the Wartheland occupation administration under Gaulieter/Reichsstathalter Arthur Greiser, HSSPF Wilhelm Koppe and Sipo chief Ernst Damzog, and was intended only to murder the Jews (and Roma) of that territory, particularly the population of the ghetto of Lodz. Chelmno had nothing to do with Aktion Reinhard and its origins in the "Euthenasia" (T4) operation are very different, starting with the murder of disabled hospital inmates from across West Prussia in gas vans under the command of Herbert Lange who then become Chelmno commandant. FiftusTheSixth (talk) 09:25, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit : German Plans for Region

Gianmarco Bresadola writes in his peer-reviewed book that Germany had always planned for an occupation of Italy as this was land that Austria used to have claim under its empire. The other writers did not really discuss this fact and assume that readers would know that Joseph Goebbels had always envisioned the return of the "Habsburg Kingdom of Lombardy- Venetia". I intend to add some information regarding the Nazi plans for a full occupation and seizure of Italy and its political structure as outlined under the German secret initiative Operation 'Alaric'. This article could also be a little bit more concise in the section that outlines military operations within the zone. The two zones which were in Southern Italy were under Germanic rule through extensions of the Reichstag that were positioned in Italy to influence people to adopt Nazi ideology, rather than Mussolini's Fascism.[1]

I intend to add information on the ethno-central composition of the region as Gianmarco Bresadola discusses in his peer reviewed book, as this is crucial to the understanding of how Germany used propaganda to entice support for the Reich. The fascist government had lost support of the fragmented social groups in Trieste, Friuli, and Venezia-Giulia and the collapse of the regime ushered a period of "disorientation" amongst Italians. I would also like to bolster the previous authors writing on the Austro-Hungarian Empire by discussing Freidrich Rainer's use of propaganda to legitimize Nazi operations in Italy. ermans wanted to replace Rome as the capital, and instead appoint Vienna as this would forge cultural links between Vienna and Trieste. They named the zone “Adriatisch Küstenland” because this had been the name used by the Austo-Hungarian empire in the past as it references the areas North of the Adriatic. This was an example of the propaganda that the Germans employed in the zone, as they used every opportunity to evoke feelings of nostalgia in remembrance of the prosperous and imperial past. Lastly, I would like to add more information on the specific tactics that Germans used in the zone, such as the blocking of all Italian news sources in the zone, and the subsequent substitution to German: radio and news. In doing this, they were able to polarize the already fragmented region while still building links to the Austo-Hungarian Empire Gianmarco Bresadola - The Legitimising Strategies of Nazi Administration in Northern Italy </ref>

  1. ^ Gianmarco Bresadola - The Legtimising Strategies of Nazi Administration in Northern Italy