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Paul Stastny

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Notified: Maxim, Serte, WikiProject Biography/Sports and games, WikiProject Olympics, WikiProject Ice Hockey, Noticed 2021-03-14

Review section

I am nominating this featured article for review because the "Career" section needs to be summarized (specifically the Colorado Avalanche section), the "Style of play" section does not cite sources published post-2007, and there are some statements that need citations. Edits have not been made to the article since it was noticed. Z1720 (talk) 20:13, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

I 100% agree with this re-review and will be working to improve it. Not only does the Avalanche section need work but his ~4 season St. Louis Blues career is discussed in one paragraph! It definitely needs a lot of work on the more recent section but I believe I have added sources for everything.HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 22:20, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Just a quick note to acknowledge that I've seen this FAR. I don't have a particularly strong motivation or interest to work in the topic area. That said, I'm very glad to see that HickoryOughtShirt?4 has taken an interest in the article. Maxim_(talk) 13:34, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

I've worked on a few FAs recently. This is a good article but not quite up to FA standards at the moment. There are a number of bare references and CS1 maintenance errors which I'm happy to sort out for you. There's one permanently dead link. Those are the things I've noticed on first pass through but I'll have a closer look today, make a few edits, and post my comments here. Rodney Baggins (talk) 11:35, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

I've made a few improvements to the article. There are some MOS:NUMBER and MOS:DUPLINK errors that I can fix, as well as CS1 parameter fixes. In the meantime, please see my comments on Talk page. Thanks, Rodney Baggins (talk) 15:25, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

• Could we get an update on status here? Nikkimaria (talk) 16:46, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Well, for my part, I'm a lot happier with it now and would consider it to be back up to FA standard. I might do a bit more copyediting in the Avalanche section but nothing drastic. Rodney Baggins (talk) 18:32, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

The article has seen drastic improvements by multiple editors. I think the Colorado Avalanche section could use another trim and copyedit. The Style and play section still needs to be updated. Perhaps there is commentary on his playstyle in news reports when he was traded or signed with a new team, as reports might comment on why the team traded him away or what skills and technique he will bring to the new club. Please ping me when improvements are finished and I will give a copyedit. Z1720 (talk) 18:46, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

@Rodney Baggins and Z1720: Have these last issues been sorted out? Are we at a point now where we'd be looking to close? Nikkimaria (talk) 12:49, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

"Style of play" section has not been updated yet and the Colorado Avalanche section still needs a trim. There have been no edits to the article since your last update request. Z1720 (talk) 13:06, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

• Move to FARC work on this article has definitely stalled for most of the last month. No substantive edits since 30 April or earlier. (t · c) buidhe 15:00, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

FARC section

Issues raised in the review section include sourcing, coverage and prose. Nikkimaria (talk) 21:23, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

• Delist: Minimal edits since its move to FAR, still concerns about updating the "Style of play" section. Z1720 (talk) 02:01, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
• Comment - Am I the only one who considers it somewhat that his high school MSHSAA stats are included in the career statistics table? It's rare that high school stats are that significant IMO. Hog Farm _Talk 01:03, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
• Delist - Didn't want to have to suggest delisting here, but this has been silent for most of two months, and there's some issues yet. A non-exhaustive sampling will follow below
  • "Stastny's play was one of the reasons the Avalanche experienced their best run of the season towards the end" - is sourced to single-game box score, which is very poor sourcing for a statement like that
  • I'm concerned that there's some significant weighting issues here. 2007/8 and 2008/9 are discussed in great detail, while the 10/11 season in particular is barely even mentioned. Or for that matter, the 13/14 season which is only describe with the trade deadline stuff
  • "He scored a goal and an assist in a 6–5 loss to the Nashville Predators" - the table says that he scored 4 goals and had 9 assists on the season for Winnipeg, what makes these specifically important enough to mention over the others?
  • The newest source in the style of play section is from 2008, at the very beginning of his NHL career, suggesting significant problems with datedness.
  • The lead barely mentions the latter half of his career at all

So while this didn't look to be in bad shape at a first glance, I am very concerned about what seem to be significant issues with the lead, style of play section, and the overall weighting of the article. Hog Farm _Talk 03:45, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

• Delist per Hog Farm. FemkeMilene (talk) 08:12, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
• Closing note: This removal candidate has been delisted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please leave the {{featured article review}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:34, 5 July 2021 (UTC)