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::The protests are taking place in Afghanistan for the reason concerning Afghanistan's latest debacle. They are not individual protests. They are part of something larger. The protests are against the Taliban and it's supporter, Pakistan. --[[User:WikiCleanerMan|WikiCleanerMan]] ([[User talk:WikiCleanerMan|talk]]) 18:12, 9 September 2021 (UTC) |
::The protests are taking place in Afghanistan for the reason concerning Afghanistan's latest debacle. They are not individual protests. They are part of something larger. The protests are against the Taliban and it's supporter, Pakistan. --[[User:WikiCleanerMan|WikiCleanerMan]] ([[User talk:WikiCleanerMan|talk]]) 18:12, 9 September 2021 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep''' per Shankargb and also per my rationale above. [[User:GenuineArt|GenuineArt]] ([[User talk:GenuineArt|talk]]) 17:40, 9 September 2021 (UTC) |
*'''Keep''' per Shankargb and also per my rationale above. [[User:GenuineArt|GenuineArt]] ([[User talk:GenuineArt|talk]]) 17:40, 9 September 2021 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''' {{snd}} article doesn't meet [[WP:EVENTCRITERIA]] as there is no historical significance of these protest and topic doesn't have [[WP:DEPTH]] coverage. Artt also doesn't meet WP:GNG due to lack of [[WP:SIGCOV]] and [[WP:RS|reliability]] of sources can be further argued (reliability of Indian sources about Pakistan and vice versa is nearly zero; they usually publish highly politicized and propaganda info to please their audiences). WP:RAPID doesn't really apply here. Editor arguing WP:RAPID, need to look at [[WP:DELAY]] too. |
*'''Delete''' {{snd}} article doesn't meet [[WP:EVENTCRITERIA]] as there is no historical significance of these protest and topic doesn't have [[WP:DEPTH]] coverage. Artt also doesn't meet WP:GNG due to lack of [[WP:SIGCOV]] and [[WP:RS|reliability]] of sources can be further argued (reliability of Indian sources about Pakistan and vice versa is nearly zero; they usually publish highly politicized and propaganda info to please their audiences). WP:RAPID doesn't really apply here. Editor arguing WP:RAPID, need to look at [[WP:DELAY]] too. [[User:Abdulhaseebatd| Radioactive ]] ([[User talk:Abdulhaseebatd|talk]]) 19:38, 9 September 2021 (UTC) |
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:*{{ping|Abdulhaseebatd}}} I am sure an [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard&oldid=1043459477#Abdulhaseebatd undisclosed paid COI editor] like you has no knowledge of the policies you are citing. The subject meets all criteria listed at [[WP:EVENTCRITERIA]]. Existence of sources like [https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/11/sanction-pakistan-twitter-trend-afghanistan-taliban Al-Jazeera], [https://www.scmp.com/news/world/russia-central-asia/article/3147843/afghanistan-taliban-fire-shots-disperse-anti SCMP], [https://iranintl.com/en/world/afghans-protest-against-taliban-pakistan-kabul-and-tehran IranIntl], and other thousands of sources providing significant coverage to this subject on frequent basis easily debunks your entirely misleading misrepresentation of sources and policies. [[User:AnM2002|AnM2002]] ([[User talk:AnM2002|talk]]) 08:21, 10 September 2021 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete''' per [[User:Abdulhaseebatd| |
*'''Delete''' per [[User:Abdulhaseebatd| Radioactive ]] ([[User talk:Abdulhaseebatd|talk]]) rationale above. [[User:Ngrewal1|Ngrewal1]] ([[User talk:Ngrewal1|talk]]) 00:28, 10 September 2021 (UTC) |
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:*{{ping|Ngrewal1}} But [[User:Abdulhaseebatd| Radioactive]], an [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard&oldid=1043459477#Abdulhaseebatd undisclosed paid editor], is simply misleading others as clear from his comment. [[User:AnM2002|AnM2002]] ([[User talk:AnM2002|talk]]) 08:21, 10 September 2021 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete or redirect to [[2021 Afghan protests]]''' fails [[WP:EVENTCRITERIA]]. No evidence of notability. [[User:Thepharoah17|Thepharoah17]] ([[User talk:Thepharoah17|talk]]) 05:45, 10 September 2021 (UTC) |
*'''Delete or redirect to [[2021 Afghan protests]]''' fails [[WP:EVENTCRITERIA]]. No evidence of notability. [[User:Thepharoah17|Thepharoah17]] ([[User talk:Thepharoah17|talk]]) 05:45, 10 September 2021 (UTC) |
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:*{{ping|Thepharoah17}} It meets every single criteria laid out at [[WP:EVENTCRITERIA]]: |
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::Criteria 1: "{{tq|Events are '''probably notable''' if they have enduring historical significance and meet the [[WP:GNG|general notability guideline]], or if they have a significant [[#Lasting effects|lasting effect]].}}" It meets "[[WP:GNG|general notability guideline]]" and [[WP:LASTING]] since it is getting significant coverage for months.[https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/11/sanction-pakistan-twitter-trend-afghanistan-taliban][http://www.afghanistantimes.af/afghans-protest-against-pakistan-in-germany/] |
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::*Criteria 2: "{{tq|Events are also '''very likely to be notable''' if they have widespread (national or international) impact and were very widely covered in diverse sources, especially if also re-analyzed afterwards (as described below). }}": With Al-Jazeera, SCMP, Iran Intl, Hindustan Times, and many others covering the subject, this is a no-brainer. |
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::*Criteria 3: "{{tq|Events having lesser coverage or more limited scope '''may or may not be notable'''; the descriptions below provide guidance to assess the event.}}": The significant coverage spanning large variety of sources is already evidenced by the present version of the article and my above explanation. |
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::*Criteria 4: "{{tq|Routine kinds of news events (including most crimes, accidents, deaths, celebrity or political news, "shock" news, stories lacking lasting value such as "water cooler stories," and [[viral phenomenon|viral phenomena]]) – whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually '''not notable''' unless something further gives them additional enduring significance.}}": Again, a no-brainer since the subject is getting significant coverage for months. |
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::In sum, you will benefit from actually reading WP:EVENTCRITERIA. [[User:AnM2002|AnM2002]] ([[User talk:AnM2002|talk]]) 08:21, 10 September 2021 (UTC) |
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Delete per WP:NOTNEWS. Anti Pakistan protests are common in Afghanistan, but there's no indication that anything that happened this year stands apart and this doesn't really rise to a notable level.. This is an attempt to use Wikipedia for propaganda. Saqib (talk) 09:07, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 09:19, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 09:19, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Afghanistan-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 09:19, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 09:19, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:RAPID and WP:GNG. I agree that "Anti Pakistan protests are common in Afghanistan" but not in Iran, US, Germany, Austria, Canada, etc. over a particular reason. Shankargb (talk) 13:22, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect To 2021 Afghan protests per my original edit. The article doesn't have enough to stand on it's own and this part of the larger protests in Afghanistan since the Taliban took over. The grievances of the protesters is over Pakistan's support for the Taliban not just the fact this is it's own anti-Pakistan protests. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 14:19, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
- Afghan protests are specific to Taliban rule, while anti-Pakistan protests are specific to Pakistan's interference in Afghanistan. They are different than each other. Both subjects have got significant amount of coverage, independent of each other. GenuineArt (talk) 17:40, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
- The protests are taking place in Afghanistan for the reason concerning Afghanistan's latest debacle. They are not individual protests. They are part of something larger. The protests are against the Taliban and it's supporter, Pakistan. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:12, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per Shankargb and also per my rationale above. GenuineArt (talk) 17:40, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete – article doesn't meet WP:EVENTCRITERIA as there is no historical significance of these protest and topic doesn't have WP:DEPTH coverage. Artt also doesn't meet WP:GNG due to lack of WP:SIGCOV and reliability of sources can be further argued (reliability of Indian sources about Pakistan and vice versa is nearly zero; they usually publish highly politicized and propaganda info to please their audiences). WP:RAPID doesn't really apply here. Editor arguing WP:RAPID, need to look at WP:DELAY too. Radioactive (talk) 19:38, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Abdulhaseebatd:} I am sure an undisclosed paid COI editor like you has no knowledge of the policies you are citing. The subject meets all criteria listed at WP:EVENTCRITERIA. Existence of sources like Al-Jazeera, SCMP, IranIntl, and other thousands of sources providing significant coverage to this subject on frequent basis easily debunks your entirely misleading misrepresentation of sources and policies. AnM2002 (talk) 08:21, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per Radioactive (talk) rationale above. Ngrewal1 (talk) 00:28, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Ngrewal1: But Radioactive, an undisclosed paid editor, is simply misleading others as clear from his comment. AnM2002 (talk) 08:21, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete or redirect to 2021 Afghan protests fails WP:EVENTCRITERIA. No evidence of notability. Thepharoah17 (talk) 05:45, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Thepharoah17: It meets every single criteria laid out at WP:EVENTCRITERIA:
- Criteria 1: "
Events are probably notable if they have enduring historical significance and meet the general notability guideline, or if they have a significant lasting effect.
" It meets "general notability guideline" and WP:LASTING since it is getting significant coverage for months.[1][2]- Criteria 2: "
Events are also very likely to be notable if they have widespread (national or international) impact and were very widely covered in diverse sources, especially if also re-analyzed afterwards (as described below).
": With Al-Jazeera, SCMP, Iran Intl, Hindustan Times, and many others covering the subject, this is a no-brainer. - Criteria 3: "
Events having lesser coverage or more limited scope may or may not be notable; the descriptions below provide guidance to assess the event.
": The significant coverage spanning large variety of sources is already evidenced by the present version of the article and my above explanation. - Criteria 4: "
Routine kinds of news events (including most crimes, accidents, deaths, celebrity or political news, "shock" news, stories lacking lasting value such as "water cooler stories," and viral phenomena) – whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable unless something further gives them additional enduring significance.
": Again, a no-brainer since the subject is getting significant coverage for months.
- Criteria 2: "
- In sum, you will benefit from actually reading WP:EVENTCRITERIA. AnM2002 (talk) 08:21, 10 September 2021 (UTC)