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Anusha Rai

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Bit-part actor, doesn't meet WP:NACTOR and sigcov. scope_creep^Talk 19:08, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 19:27, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 19:27, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 19:27, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

• Keep - Considering the nomination has come from an esteemed editor like scope_creep, I will try to give a detailed rational and try my best indeed. WP:NACTOR requires 'significant' roles in multiple notable films. I accepted it on the basis of Mahanubhavaru where she is the leading lady and second Karshanam, again the female lead. What's significant and not in WP:NACTOR has been debated over various AFDs etc. I have been part of many of them and my understanding of that is - if the actor is in the lead or at least second lead, it should count. Indian films (and here we are talking about Kannada films) are portrayed as male dominated so I can understand why they would feel like that roles of the female actor ere not significant - since the plot doesn't talk about the female leads much. But it's nothing but patriarchy - not giving right attention and credit (and even pay) to female co-stars despite the fact that they are equally important and play a significant role in the films. There are her other projects which I feel are notable but people have not created pages for them so far; but I guess a few of them are likely to pass WP:NFILM. The other reason I accepted it was WP:BASIC which doesn't particularly need sigcov. I saw a few print sources cited that were in local language with her pictures [1], [2]. I opened those and found that there are a massive number of local print sources on her. Check here [3]. I have felt that reliability of print is higher than online (my own opinion) and local sources should always count and have equal value as English sources. National English media is unlikely to report and of course there is a political battle between Hindi (the allegedly National language) and local southern languages in India. So for subjects belonging to such industries, local sources should be considered valuable. Considering these local ones, WP:BASIC seems to be crossed and in my opinion, even WP:NACTOR is achieved. Apologies for such long response; I have a 100% track record at AFC and I am very careful in accepting/rejecting articles and I hope I will maintain my record. Thanks! Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 01:01, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
• Keep per WP:BASIC/WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR, as well as the thorough analysis from Nomadicghumakkad. Independent and reliable sources are focused on her, her biographical/education background, as well as her multiple significant roles, e.g. The long road to acting (Bangalore Mirror, 2018), This hudugi is ‘RAI’Ding high (Deccan Chronicle, 2018), The new princess (Deccan Chronicle, 2018), in addition to the sources described by Nomadicghumakkad. Beccaynr (talk) 02:36, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
• Delete WP:TOOSOON; appear to have played some minor roles in major productions or vice versa and sources provided above are insufficient to satisfy WP:GNG (see WP:IV). Also, please note that the draft was moved to the main namespace after being rejected multiple times by multiple reviewers. Also, Indian media write about anyone who claims to be an actor (see Paid news in India) and for that fact we don't keep articles on actors just because of their appearance in the media unless they satisfy WP:NACTOR for example Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Janhvi Kapoor and many more. GSS ^💬 04:20, 19 September 2021 (UTC) (updated 05:06, 19 September 2021 (UTC))
• Comment I don't think these are minor roles. The coverages clearly indicate that they are leading roles, as also explained by Beccaynr (whom I give credit for my understanding of WP:BASIC after losing a number of AFD battles to them!) About interviews, my understanding has been that what is outside double quotes can be considered for notability and that's why, my rational is linked with WP:BASIC and not necessarily WP:GNG. I definitely agree that journalism in India is now plagued with paid news but that doesn't mean that all news is paid news. The sources cited here are credited to journalists. Again, would focus back to value of sources in local languages and that they should not be overlooked. Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 23:19, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
  • None of her films is independently notable. The notability of her debut film Mahanubhavaru is questionable and can be challenged by anyone. The film was released in 2017 and only received 1 review which is insufficient as per WP:NFILM and there is no significant coverage in reliable sources except the announcements etc. Her another film Karshanam was released in 2018 and I can't find a single full-length review by a notable critic about it. Google yield merely 15 results for "Karshanam" and most of them are not even about the film. GSS ^💬 14:27, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
• Comment They are minor roles. She is currently a bit-part actor at a very very early stage of her career. They're is not one staring part, not even a part in a major series, where she wasn't a support actor. The references offered are all PR. The references offered in archive.org state: New Comers Karshanam by Yuva Chethana in late 2018. It is PR as well. They are all junk references. She doen't meet WP:NACTOR. scope_creep^Talk 07:24, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

I have posted the film Karshanam to Afd as well, since it is non-notable. scope_creep^Talk 14:33, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

The editor has indeffed block. 10 of the article have created have been rejected at Afc or deleted. Two seems to survive and seem to be linked to this actor. scope_creep^Talk 14:38, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

• Delete Falls short of WP:NACTOR which needs "significant roles in multiple notable films." Without the presence of critical reviews, neither significance nor notability can be duly assessed. Two films have articles but their notability is shaky. Also, the concerns about the independence of the sources cannot be ignored when nearly all of them are interviews . -- Ab207 (talk) 16:55, 20 September 2021 (UTC)