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Are you still pushing for making the site usable? [[Wikipedia:Edit filter/Requested#Filmcompanion|This]] seems to have gone moot for two weeks. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family: Papyrus">[[User:Kailash29792|<b style="color: black;">Kailash29792</b>]] [[User talk:Kailash29792|<span style="color: black;">(talk)</span>]] </span> 07:20, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
Are you still pushing for making the site usable? [[Wikipedia:Edit filter/Requested#Filmcompanion|This]] seems to have gone moot for two weeks. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family: Papyrus">[[User:Kailash29792|<b style="color: black;">Kailash29792</b>]] [[User talk:Kailash29792|<span style="color: black;">(talk)</span>]] </span> 07:20, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

:@[[User:Kailash29792|Kailash29792]] New week, new idiots. See the discussion. [[User:TrangaBellam|TrangaBellam]] ([[User talk:TrangaBellam#top|talk]]) 11:37, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

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Requesting WP:REFACTOR

Your recent reply to my proposition seem to sound like uncalled for microaggression.

  • Stupid. ?? Is this a policy based explanation? You seems to have reservations against incumbent government, Are you presuming that calling the Sengol installed in parliament as 1947-Sengol is favorable to incumbent government some how? I just proposed thinking that to be neutral; you can all the way find policy based faults in it, support status quo or support something else, using words like 'stupid' seems all the way uncalled for.
  • .. Sengol tradition in Chola spans, as has been claimed by the incumbent government in India? ..
Did I comment anywhere in my proposition about Chola and claims of incumbent government? Are you doing uncalled for presumptions? When and which governments to support or not is every ones own individual prerogatives and need not be presumed. At least not in the case of users like me who follow reasonable editorial neutrality.
Whether historical things do not exist irrespective of whichever governments are in the power? Can any one not create draft / sandbox and update with available RS on the respective page?
My title renaming suggestion on article t/p rather distances from historical Sengol at least to some extent which present title does not is my perception, you may very well have different perception. But above cited advance speculative presumption seems uncalled for.
  • .. Btw, I am glad that you have changed your atrocious signature. .. This is the untimely and uncalled for microaggression which has made me most annoyed.
Whether an article talk page is space to talk about my user signature? Only problem with my signature was it's lengths and I reduced shortened it long time back on good faith advice of other users. And what all you are calling atrocious was all the way was just good faith description of good encyclopedic value. You call it atrocious that too at t/p of a contentious article talk page in untimely manner?
I am quite annoyed with this and look forward to WP:AGF and positive WP:REFACTOR at your earliest.

Bookku (talk) 10:07, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(1) Do a strawpoll. 1947-Sengol as the name of the object is just bizarre and, might I say, stupid.
(2) I was actually keen to know if you found sources to the effect? See the last thread on the t/p, where I document sources which claim the non-existence of such a tradition in Chola spans. No bad faith was involved.
(3) I am willing to remove the bit, but I am not the first editor who had complained about the signature. TrangaBellam (talk) 10:35, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
1a) Bizarre or stupid, neither of the word seem to make linguistic or WP policy explanation. Idk some one like you good at language expertise and adequate Wikipedia expertise can't go beyond unhelpful shortcut words. At this moment I leave at that.
1b) My basic concern is clear from section heading "Article title naming and scope mismatch" and "Short description|Symbolic sceptre in Indian history"
"About|a gold sceptre installed in the Parliament of India.."
It would help if you can help with inputs on basic concern. Alternatively we can seek more opinions with RfC to decide if one of them can be dropped from the scope. Of course I will take this @ article t/p.
2) On historical Sengol, I am not focused on ongoing controversy of Chola-Govt-Parliament. In South India historical Sengol seem to begin from non-religious Sangam era mentions. Nayakas seem to have their own tradition. Karnataka seem to have had their own traditions. Whole research and making article will take time. What I suggest is let us see beyond on going political polarization and focus on what best encyclopedic information with RS we can provide.
3) Thanks for refactoring.
Just for record and info of uninitiated my previous signature used to include words 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' did not contain any bad words or bad intention, shortened before some months to mere Bookku due to concerns over length of the signature.
Bookku (talk) 14:09, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Threatening to topic ban a newcomer is a very bad behaviour. You should have been warned by some administrator about this. Due to your threats the user who was definitely not a disruptive editor left Wikipedia. many long term editors make mistakes. Accusing a newbie of hate speech is over the top. 42.105.5.233 (talk) 06:48, 12 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. TrangaBellam (talk) 09:16, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A friendly alert

@TrangaBellam as such I respect you for being fairly geek in lot many WP policies rather also learn few from your advice time to time. This is not to say you have broken any guidelines relating WP:CTOP and WP:ARBIP, but remaining alerted may help to avoid heat of moment editing situations. Wish you happy editing and cheers. Bookku (talk) 02:43, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Are you still pushing for making the site usable? This seems to have gone moot for two weeks. Kailash29792 (talk) 07:20, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Kailash29792 New week, new idiots. See the discussion. TrangaBellam (talk) 11:37, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]