Talk:Talhenbont Hall

A building? An estate? A family?

Cltjames, after all the recent edits, the very first paragraph still tells the reader that Talhenbont hall [...] is a grade II listed building in Gwynedd, Wales. [...] It was first called Plas Hen (English: Old Hall) until a century ago, it was a part of a 12,000 acre (5,000 ha) estate between 1845 to 1959. Today the hall is a 100 acre (40 ha) country estate [...] -- and thus that it is a building, that in the past it was an estate, and that it now is part of an estate. All of this may for all I know be true; but if so then its exposition could and should be made clearer. The second (and longer) half of the introduction is about the building's (and/or the estate's) past and present ownership: which certainly is nontrivial information, but whose presentation in the introduction seems to outweigh the description there of what the "hall" was and is.

Beyond its introduction, this draft seems less interested in the building than in matters that are little more than genealogical. This is odd for an article that sets off by telling the reader that such-and-such "is a grade II listed building". -- Hoary (talk) 23:39, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

@Hoary:, Ok, that's fine, I simply presented the current evidence for the site. I'll look at the article tomorrow (E.S.T. 19:43). But please tell me if this could be a new article or not... ? Cltjames (talk) 23:44, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Cltjames, is it about a building, an estate, a family, a building and an estate, or an estate and a family? Please say. Then its content will need to be juggled and trimmed accordingly. The result will have to be judged as a candidate article about the specified subject. (If it's about the family, then I'll recuse myself from evaluating it, I have no knowledge of these matters and no reference materials.) -- Hoary (talk) 01:59, 24 October 2023 (UTC)