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→‎Preview broken: the thing is that H:WT, although not an article, is in article space; whereas WP:RS isn't
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::::And the short cut [[WP:RS]] doesn't give an error either. So it appears to be a problem with the shortcut.
::::And the short cut [[WP:RS]] doesn't give an error either. So it appears to be a problem with the shortcut.
::::[[H:YFA]] and [[H:FIRST]] also break. So it appears to be a problem with all shortcuts starting with <nowiki>"[[H:"</nowiki> --[[User:David Tornheim|David Tornheim]] ([[User talk:David Tornheim|talk]]) 09:41, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
::::[[H:YFA]] and [[H:FIRST]] also break. So it appears to be a problem with all shortcuts starting with <nowiki>"[[H:"</nowiki> --[[User:David Tornheim|David Tornheim]] ([[User talk:David Tornheim|talk]]) 09:41, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::The thing is that [[H:WT]], although not an article, ''is'' in article space: you can tell because its [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=H:WT&action=info Page information] shows "Namespace ID 0" - the list of namespace numbers is [[Template:Namespaces|here]]. The same goes for any other shortcut beginning "H:". It's not a problem for [[WP:RS]] because it's in Wikipedia space: you can tell because its [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=WP:RS&action=info Page information] shows "Namespace ID 4", and also "Namespace Wikipedia". The same goes for any other shortcut beginning "WP:". --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 09:52, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

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Strikethrough section

@Danbloch: Did that escape your attention? marks up a span of text with the <s>...</s> tag The template is merely a convenience. Paradoctor (talk) 02:45, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well, yes, but that doesn't really change anything. The Strikethrough section was about the {{strikethrough}} template, with the mention of <s> being just an easy to overlook implementation detail. And the problem with having a section about {{strikethrough}} is that templates aren't part of wikitext so {{strikethrough}} doesn't deserve a section in this article.
Having said that, I no longer care that much. If no one else chimes in, feel free to put it back. Though I reserve the right to do a more comprehensive rewrite some other time. Dan Bloch (talk) 03:29, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Noted. Paradoctor (talk) 04:56, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Danbloch: If no one else chimes in, feel free to put it back. No one chimed. Paradoctor (talk) 04:57, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No instructions for commonly used page characters ( and )

A lot of pages in Wikipedia use parenthesis, as in "Raiders of the Lost Ark (soundtrack)" but there is no hint of how to make this link work. I found a workaround, using &lpar; and &rpar;. The page and section that I edited is

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taricha#Toxicity

where I fixed the link to "Washington (state)". -- motorfingers : Talk -- motorfingers : Talk 06:45, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is no hint because they work exactly the same as internal links to any other page. The character entity references are neither necessary nor helpful. Paradoctor (talk) 07:37, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Special characters

This section shows HTML character entities but it does not show templates, e.g., {{=}} (=), {{!}} (|), {{all}} (), {{and}}(), {{euro}} (), {{exist}} (), {{not}} (), {{pi}} (π), {{times}} ( × ). -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 16:33, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

&nbsp; two pass vs. one pass

The article should mention why using &amp;nbsp; is more reliable than just &nbsp; Jidanni (talk) 08:18, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Preview broken

I added this H:WT and when I hover over it, it says "There is an issue displaying this preview." I'd fix it, but I forget where the preview is. Is it in the "short description"? --David Tornheim (talk) 01:10, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@David Tornheim: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the page Help:Wikitext, it is not a help forum.
Anyway, the short description is nothing to do with page previews. The preview is pulled from the text of the lead section of a page by JavaScript. I may be wrong, but I think that it only works for articles. Your shortcut is in article space, so it's attempting to start the page previews script; but the redirect target is in Help: space, not an article. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 08:14, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't think this was a help forum. LOL. That it gives an error with the preview seems to me to be a bug, not a mistake on my part for using the shortcut. Since the preview error is associated with this page, I reported it here. Can you suggest a better place to report the error? WP:Village_pump_(technical), perhaps? Incidentally,WP:Village_pump_(technical) does not give an error when I hover over it. --David Tornheim (talk) 09:15, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:Village_pump_(technical) isn't an article, so Page Previews is not triggered, so there won't be any error. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 09:26, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Help:Wikitext is not an article either. And this isn't article space, right? Yet the preview is broken for it, but not for WP:Village_pump_(technical).
Weird, Help:Wikitext doesn't break. Only the shortcut H:WT.
And the short cut WP:RS doesn't give an error either. So it appears to be a problem with the shortcut.
H:YFA and H:FIRST also break. So it appears to be a problem with all shortcuts starting with "[[H:" --David Tornheim (talk) 09:41, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The thing is that H:WT, although not an article, is in article space: you can tell because its Page information shows "Namespace ID 0" - the list of namespace numbers is here. The same goes for any other shortcut beginning "H:". It's not a problem for WP:RS because it's in Wikipedia space: you can tell because its Page information shows "Namespace ID 4", and also "Namespace Wikipedia". The same goes for any other shortcut beginning "WP:". --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 09:52, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]