User talk:RJHall

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Friendly messages are much appreciated! Please add new conversations below. Thanks! —RJH

P.S. Obviously uncivil comments will be expunged with extreme prejudice.

ACID Atom

The article Atom, which you voted for the Article Collaboration and Improvement Drive on August 30, and was removed on September 11, because on one got around to choosing it as the winner, has been renominated and needs votes. Zginder 16:03, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Done and done. Thanks. -RJH (talk) 16:23, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

You helped choose Atom as this week's WP:ACID winner

Zginder 00:33, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Shades of Chicxulub Crater

Hey, I've renom'd it at WP:FAC here... so now that the peer review's done ;), mind giving your opinion? David Fuchs ^(talk) 22:22, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

I think I've addressed your concerns... David Fuchs ^(talk) 12:38, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Featured List of the Day Experiment

There have been a series of proposals to initiate a Featured List of the Day on the main page. Numerous proposals have been put forth. After the third one failed, I audited all WP:FL's in order to begin an experiment in my own user space that will hopefully get it going. Today, it commences at WP:LOTD. Afterwards I created my experimental page, a new proposal was set forth to do a featured list that is strikingly similar to my own which is to do a user page experimental featured list, but no format has been confirmed and mechanism set in place. I continue to be willing to do the experiment myself and with this posting it commences. Please submit any list that you would like to have considered for list of the day in the month of January 2008 by the end of this month to WP:LOTD and its subpages. You may submit multiple lists for consideration.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 21:59, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Possibly unfree Image:Cc etrusca.gif

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Vega

I meant exactly that the luminosity as viewed from poles is twice the luminosity as viewd from equator. Aufdenberg et al (2006) say that the (apparent) pole luminosity of Vega is 57 Solar (p. 670). This overluminosity of of Vega was a big problem in the past. They resolved it. The true luminosity of Vega is about 37 solar, which is the same as luminosity of a non-rotating main sequence star with the same mass. In fact Aufdenberg et al (2006) say "Here we assume Vega’s rapid rotation has no significant effect on its interior in relation to the luminosity from nuclear reactions in its core." (see the last paragraph on p.670 in the left column). They actually use luminosity-mass relation for slowly rotating Sirius to derive mass estimate for Vega.

Unfortunatly they did not calculate the value for equator luminosity. However the temperature at the equatot is 25% less than at poles therefore the difference is 1.25⁴=2.3 times. Taking into account 20 % decrease in the surface area we arrive at the value aroung 2.8 times. This value is an upper limit. As for the real value, my reasonable guess is 2 times, which is compatible with their figure 9. This estimate gives equator luminosity about 30 solar. Ruslik (talk) 17:48, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. — RJH (talk) 17:50, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

It is possible to calculate the equator luminosity using model from Aufdenberg et al (2006). I may do this in the future but not now. I am too busy with other activities. Ruslik (talk) 18:09, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Okay, thanks again. It's one of those pieces of information that would be nice to have, but I think the article can get by without it at the moment. I temporarily moved the paragraph on the topic to the article's talk page. — RJH (talk) 18:12, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

You helped choose Carbon as this week's WP:ACID winner

Zginder (talk) 13:46, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Asteroid belt

Hi RJ. I don't know if you noticed Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Asteroid belt. It's Serendip's nom. I did a ce but it's still in limbo after a few weeks on FAC. Cheers, Marskell (talk) 19:00, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi Marskell. Although it has undergone a lot of changes recently, I did a fair amount of work on the original article in order to get it up to GA. So I think I may be a little biased. — RJH (talk) 19:58, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Samuel Bernard

I've translated this article from French, per your request... just a couple of archaic titles which I need to make sure I translated correctly. Please proofread and make any corrections as you see fit :-) ǝɹʎℲxoɯ (contrib) 22:43, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Wow, that was quick. It looks good to me. Thank you. — RJH (talk) 23:00, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, this one was pretty straightforward and mercifully short compared to many of the French biographical articles. ǝɹʎℲxoɯ (contrib) 23:02, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Mechanisms and processes of evolution

i think the lead is perfect. the length is enough. Jogaila is a recently featured article. don't you think it needs a proper lead. their are hundered of articles which don't have sufficient lead. i think that lead should not be touched since all the imp. aspects are already discussed in the lead. i have addressed some of the points. though i don't agree with your one more point. anyway i have replied on nomination page only. thanks a lot for reviewing the article, i highly appriciate your efforts, Sushant gupta 14:04, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

i have addressed all the points. kindly give your opinion please. thanks, Sushant gupta 14:24, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Please keep the discussion on the FAC page. Thank you. — RJH (talk) 16:13, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

sorry, Sushant gupta 06:04, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Main sequence

Hi Bob. The article on the main sequence is in need of fixing up. You have done such a great job on other astronomy pages, do you have time for that one? I can't spend much time on it, but am happy to pitch in or offer advice if needed. Timb66 10:21, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi. Thank you for the suggestion. Yes I can try to expand it. — RJH (talk) 17:48, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Okay I have expanded it. There's still some references needed and I'll work on that. When you have a moment, could you look through it and see what needs expanding, clarifying or even removing? I'm sure there may be some corrections needed and a bit of fine tuning. Thank you. — RJH (talk) 18:47, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Science Collaboration of the Month

You voted for and this article is now the current Science Collaboration of the Month! Please help to improve it to match the quality of an ideal Wikipedia science article.

NCurse _work 13:11, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

The Scorcher

Hey RJ, given I am a neophyte when it comes to astronomy, are you happy that everything possibly technical and star-related has been added to the Sirius article? Have you seen the book by Holberg? It's got good background and analysis on the 'red sirius' and the issue of a 3rd body as well as some nifty stuff on the heliacal rising and I can play with all that. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:24, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi. Yes I think the article covers the salient details about Sirius reasonably well. I haven't been able to find anything else worth mentioning with regards to astronomical details. I think the page compares well with the accessible articles by Prof. Jim Kaler and the SolStation page. Unfortunately no I haven't read the book by Holberg. Thank you.—RJH (talk) 17:03, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

It's a fantastic read, borrowed it from uni library but may buy a copy one day. Just thought of something - maybe a sentence or two about the Sirius Supercluster may be good but I don't have any book refs or anything. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:46, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

You got it. Thanks.—RJH (talk) 16:32, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

I just thought - it may be good to note how high it gets from some average northern cities such as London or New York as I have a note from St Petersburg (Russia not Florida!) in, but couldn't find it webwise. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:21, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

It's actually pretty easy to calculate. The maximum altitude of a star at culmination is equal to 90° + the star's declination − the city's latitude.[1] So (if I did my math right) the maximum altitude of Sirius is 73.3° − N. latitude. For London (+50.5°), this would be 22.3°.—RJH (talk) 21:38, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Cool, thanks for that (should have remembered from years ago..) cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:56, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Tireless contributor barnstar

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		For your endless efforts in space-related topics, such as Planet and asteroid belt, I think you deserve a tireless contributor barnstar :) Serendipodous 13:22, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Ceres is on the way up (Tony opened with support! That has never happened to me in ten featured articles). Neptune is going to need some SERIOUS work. I'm not really in a position to get a hold of the right data at the moment, but it needs to triple its citation level, at least. Serendi^podous 16:58, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Star

Hello RJ, I think the reference I had given for Sanskrit etymology of star already states that star derives from Sanskrit although it doesnt mention Sitara explicitly. I am invariant under co-ordinate transformations (talk) 01:07, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Hello FMT. If the sentence had only said it was derived from Sanskrit then I wouldn't have a concern. But I can't be sure that it, historically, was derived from "sitara". That's why I'd like to see a reference for that point. Thank you.—RJH (talk) 17:03, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

An Engraved Invitation

Hello RJHall, based upon your work and interest related to space manufacturing and role playing games I hearby extend an invitation to you to check out v:Lunar Boom Town at Wikiversity. We intend to support a range of educational, planning and venture related activities such as electronic games, tech paper review, venture planning, etc. to learn more about space tech and settlement issues and how to get profitably involved with them. I hope you will find time to stop by and at least comment at some area of interest. It is a pretty rough lump of coal at the moment but I think some aspects of diamond facets may become visible soon. I did some role playing with my nephew using and creating materials there and he is now persistently looking for more. This has led to dialogues regarding chemisty, life support systems, mass and metrics, and long practice sessions on lunar lander and asteroids improving his understanding of what airless maneuvering requires with and without a large g-field. In v:Lunar Boom Town/Cargo Imports we are preparing to do a little green sand casting to create physical rocket models of our own design. I hope you can visualize how this might grow some individuals, organizations, and activities beneficial to private ventures in space. Remember both Goddard and Braun started with small model rocketry. Thanks for your time and effort here at Wikipedia. We shall be utilizing your efforts even if you do not choose to stop by v:Lunar Boom Town! Lazyquasar (talk) 20:21, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

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Alnitak, sorry Zeta Orionis on the main page...

If you're on in the next 4 hours you'll see Zeta Orionis in the DYK section of the main page.....cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:37, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Censorship and talk pages

Please don't cry "censorship" when people try to keep talk page discussions on track. It's every editor's job to make sure talk pages are for useful discussion of how to improve the article. Wikipedia is not a forum for free speech, it's an encyclopedia. Friday (talk) 18:49, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Per Wikipedia:Talk_page_guidelines#Editing_comments, "Do not strikeout the comments of other editors without their permission." This is exactly what was done; repeatedly. To censor is defined as removal of objectionable content. I believe the verb correctly matches the action performed. In future, please respect the talk page guidelines.—RJH (talk) 19:42, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

If you take a look further down, you'll see that removing material not related to improving the article is specifically mentioned as a case where it's OK to edit someone else's comments. Friday (talk) 19:51, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes I saw that, and to me the discussion as relevant to the article content. It was not off topic, and concerned the content of the lead paragraph. So that case doesn't apply. Frankly this is the first time since I've joined Wikipedia that I've seen somebody out and out yank an entire on-topic discussion out of an article talk page. It was unnecessary and, to me, antagonistic. My preference would be to archive the discussion and let those who want to read it do so. But we clearly disagree completely on this topic, so lets leave it at that.—RJH (talk) 20:28, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Boeing 747

Thank you for your comment. We or I am working on this and hope you will change your oppose in the near future. I began a lengthy discussion on reference formatting but see that it's not quite there despite a vast improvment from the past. Archtransit (talk) 21:15, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

I'll be happy to remove my opposition to this article's promotion once that is done. Thank you.—RJH (talk) 21:20, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

After an extended discussion, the editors in the article decided not to use reference templates. WP guidelines makes the style of references up to the editors.

Can you help us? What is the correct way to do references. Either that or point to a certain one in the article that is 100% correct and we'll copy it. Help! Archtransit (talk) 21:23, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Archtransit: In theory, all of the FA'd articles should have satisfactory citations. The format varies depending on whether it is a web page, news story, book, journal article, &c.I prefer using the cite templates as they give consistent results and remind me about missing information. Information on citing sources is available at Wikipedia:Citing sources.—RJH (talk) 21:31, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Would you look at citation #1 Boeing 747 and let me know if this is acceptable? Having to do 180 citations over and over and repeatedly correcting them is wasted effort.Archtransit (talk) 21:37, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

As a web page, I normally format it to look like this using a cite web template:

Staff (2007). "747 Program Milestones". The Boeing Company. Retrieved 2007-12-17.

—RJH (talk) 22:08, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

What if The Boeing Company is in italics. There was an extended discussion and the result was to use dates like "Retrieved 17 December 2007." not the 2007-12-17 convention. Do you find these style choices acceptable? I'd prefer not to fix 180 references incorrectly!Archtransit (talk) 22:12, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

The cite web template uses italics to designate a work, rather than a publisher. (Some examples here: Template:Cite_web#Examples.) There are some people who are sticklers for the date format, and I think the linked dates had something to with the display based on an individual's date formatting preferences: Help:Preferences#Date_format. But personally I only care about consistency.—RJH (talk) 22:27, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Most of our references are webpages. Anyway, the job is tentatively completed. I really feel unqualified to do references so please look it over and let me know if the job is done. Thanks. Archtransit (talk) 23:47, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Okay I took a look through the references and came up with a few suggestions:

• I was able to find an author for notes 3, 7, 10, 13, 15, 17, 28, 33, 35, 60, 65, 66, 73, 80, 85, 141, 146, 149, 151, 157, 166, 169. Those should be added.
• Note 20 (a book) is missing an author and ISBN number.
• Note 102 doesn't give a publisher.
• URL to note 127 (Interiors, Airchive.com. Retrieved 17 December 2007) wasn't found.
• URL to 150 is just a google search.
• Note 173 includes a link to a URL but no indication of what is being accessed. The "see also" should be properly formatted as a reference.
• By the way, the "External links" section should be at the end of the article, rather than before "Related content".

Thanks—RJH (talk) 16:13, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

 Done All done! Please give your stamp of approval before we become insane from these references. It has been a learning experience. I used to be clueless about refs (except that I knew to get references) but now I know a little. Archtransit (talk) 19:09, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Calculus - Thanks

Hello RJHall. I want to thank you for your work on Granville's Calculus. I am doing some further work on it, uncluding posting some typos in the discussion of those pages. I don't know your email but if you want to communicate, my email is on http://www.opensourcemath.org/. Thanks again.

more thanks

Hi -- I, too, want to thank you for digitizing Granville's calculus. I've grabbed a few of Granville's problems for use (with credit to Granville) in my own free-as-in-speech calculus textbook at lightandmatter.com. -- Ben Crowell, --76.93.42.50 (talk) 22:46, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. Unfortunately it is going to take some time to complete the digitization. I try to do a few pages each week.—RJH (talk) 16:47, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Pulling out all me old white dwarves...

(sneezing from dusty mags)....the magazine kind to bolster independent refs for D&D/Runequest material. You've seen this here and on the talk page? cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:05, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

I've got a copy of the "Heroic Worlds" book, which I use for referencing old modules and such.—RJH (talk) 18:10, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

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Happy Mango season

'TIS MANGO SEASON....
Have a shlice of mango cheek...well, I am up to my armpits in the things. Yuletide means lots and lots of mangos, as well as turkey and ham and ice-cream and pressies. Were on special so I bought 3 crates for AU$20 and now I have both crispers in the refrigerator full and even with everyone eating two of the ##$@& things every mealtime... I am a bit mangoed out so I thought I'd spread the goodwill around....cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:14, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

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