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Thank you!

Well .... where to start?

I just want to thank everyone - I can't possibly reply to everybody :) - for being so loving and supportive over the last few days. I said what I had to say and left for a few days, just to get some breathing space. I'd actually been thinking seriously about leaving over the last few weeks, as the unwanted attentions from certain people and the pressures of the current ArbCom case were beginning to wear me down. I truly wasn't expecting the kind of responses that came flooding in. I really don't know what to say. I've archived everything, my original message and all your responses, as well as a message to others at the top, at User:Alison/Depression. As I said, I hope others in a similar situation can read this, understand it, and take some comfort from it all.

Love you all, friends :)

-- Alison ^❤

PS: I guess I'd better get back to work, then! WP:RPP is calling out to me :)

PPS: Amit, it's lovely to see you back on here, too, with job intact!

From one to another

I've recently read it suggested that you might have felt that I "must be annoyed at (you) for picking up the Alison nick on enwiki". Could I just say you were fully welcome to it! Indeed, I didn't even look for it as 'AlisonW' is what I have used all over the place for many years as I know so so many Alison's IRL so use the W at all times - in addition to a 'nom de plume' which, of course, you know about as do many others (Kato is right, it isn't a 'secret' per se, I just try to not the two get written on the same webpage together) and is all quite above board, albeit reading the comments is providing me with a lot of amusement at the moment ;-P Nor, btw, will SUL annoy me at all and I'd happy to let you have meta:User:Alison on meta: right now if you would like it (and ask nicely) as at the time I registered that protective nick you weren't using User:Alison yourself and protection is a good thing™ (unlike meta:User:Alison is a douchebag lol). Keep up the good work. --AlisonW (talk) 23:59, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Crum375 edit warring again on RFAR

FYI. Lawrence § t/e 21:29, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Lawrence. Looks like Rlevse, the clerk, has now blocked him for 31 hours. Good call, IMO - Alison ^❤ 21:35, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The ridiculous blocks

Before you jump in to block me again look at this from the "British isles" name debate:
And Coast? Follow the link, why don't you? "Britain" is a political word - we must be careful not to enforce it (that's why 'land masses' have their own names - becasue they are neutral and constant). You seem to be enforcing the loaded use of Britain over the home nations onto other people, just so you can remove yourself from a recognised benign term that you simply don't want anyone to use. A bit selfish don't you think? And a bit crazy too - "British Isles" is clearly the technical term of use. (RE the Contents of my 2005 World Atlas: "British Isles 1:4 400 000"!)--Matt Lewis (talk) 22:11, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
Now - if people think they can claim the genocidal British Occupation was "benign" can you explain why it isn't permitted to explain why this is bull on this wonderful rules-based Wiki? (naturally, the idea of pro-Anglo bias plays no part in this in the minds of our wonderful Admins).Sarah777 (talk) 22:31, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sarah, I'm no longer interested in fighting your corner. Please check your email. I'm also on break right now and will be doing very little other that looking after checkuser backlogs - Alison ^❤ 23:26, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not really interested in you "fighting my corner"! I'm asking you to stop blocking me (aka fighting for the abusers)!! As for emails - sadly my PC crashed last weekend and more or less everything was lost - including emails. Sarah777 (talk) 00:38, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But thanks anyway for the dig-out on 1012 in Ireland. It is a delicate child, underweight and slightly jaundiced! Sarah777 (talk) 02:53, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unblock request - can you have a look?

One of your checkuser blocks. Cheers, ~ Riana ⁂ 01:41, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Riana. It's TougHHead again - he's been phenomenally abusive. Declined - Alison ^❤ 01:59, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thileepanmathivanian

It'll end soon enough. Remember the Grawp case? -Jéské ^{(v^_^v +2 Pen of Editing)} 02:58, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ugh! Could I forget? - Alison ^❤ 04:35, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I also wanted to stop by and say thanks for your efforts on this (and to let you know I found some other suspicious accounts related to one of the accounts you found the last time you visited this case ;) ). --Dachannien^Talk_Contrib 07:08, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

lol - the Case that Never Ends :) ... and I'm supposed to be on a break! - Alison ^❤ 07:09, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hehehe :) Thanks tons for looking at that. The IP addresses may have been a stretch in a couple of cases, but at least one of them had a pejorative edit identical to one made by one of the registered accounts, and another one fixed a spelling error in that edit, so I reported them as well. In case you were wondering, I wasn't trying to fish here - there were quite a few IPs I didn't report because the edits seemed unrelated. Also, thanks for picking up User:MDoung - it was on my "uncertain" list, so I had decided not to include it. --Dachannien^Talk_Contrib 07:20, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

checkuser request case LakeOswego

Sorry to annoy you again with that. My concern was, that according to WP:RFCU, "Vote fraud where the possible sockpuppet votes do not affect the outcome of the vote" is an "unacceptable request". I did not participate in "blatant vandalism" either. Maybe there was a good reason for checkuser, as you indicate. I really don't need to know all the details, and my goal is not to cry out that some rule has been broken (if that's the case). But I need to know two things:

If I can trust that you handle these things with the necessary care
Does anybody know my IP now, and if so, who? Or does this information get deleted automatically, or never revealed at all?

Thanks for your time to answer this. FeelFreeToBe (talk) 04:29, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, yes, the checkuser was handled according to policy. I have seen your IP address and nobody else. Truth be known, I've forgotten it :) Point is this; per the privacy policy, I am expressly forbidden from revealing it to anyone else except under strict conditions. Yes, you can trust me to handle it with absolute care - only I have seen the address. It's in the logs, though, that a check was made, but there's no explicit link of an IP address with your username - Alison ^❤ 04:34, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

rollback

thanks!--Pewwer42 Talk 06:14, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Break!

Hmmm... I count over 50 edits and other actions since you went on break. ;) Step away from the keyboard! =D *reaching through screen* Maybe if I unplug the keyboard... -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 08:21, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

haha!! - Apple Wireless Keyboard :-) - Alison ^❤ 08:30, 27 February 2008 (UTC) (But yeah. I'm still @ work here, BTW)[reply]

*popping out batteries* Wireless doesn't work without power. =P -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 08:38, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

waahhh!!!! - Alison ^❤ 08:46, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

tell application "Finder" to sleep

Good night! =D -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 08:54, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wonders if it would be a kindness to get Ali a UPS of her very own, or a cruel way of keeping her Wiki-addicted :) SirFozzie (talk) 17:14, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks for PP on Granville Woods. I'll hopefully be able to fix it up in a day or so. BigDunc (talk) 08:51, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Much deserved

{{Alison}} Keep your chin up, and don't be afraid to go Cold Turkey if you need to. SirFozzie (talk) 22:46, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unblocking Sarah777

Hell no. If people are supporting unblocking an editor who colourfully said "get off my talk page you twat", with a history of, as you put it, "gross incivility", it just show how much Wikipedia has gone into the toilet. That, and I don't think she'll follow the terms of the deal anyway. Will ^(talk) 03:19, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've heard far worse than that around here from admins that are still active. Sarah is massively frustrated right now with a lot of things on WP. Cut her a little slack here - she's a good contributor who needs to work through some stuff - Alison ^❤ 03:26, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

At the very least, I think an unblock is inappropriate. Let it fizzle out. Will ^(talk) 03:37, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The examples you give are of unacceptable conduct. We don't set standards by the worst things on wiki. Tyrenius (talk) 04:15, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, but let's maintain some semblance of a level playing field here. How can we censure someone when someone else is given carte blanche to do and say what they like. She's already got a problem with admins, in fairness - Alison ^❤ 04:17, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am quite prepared to endorse any measures taken against others who act in a similar way. Wiki would be a more pleasant place for all as a result. Tyrenius (talk) 04:38, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect you won't have to wait too long, so - Alison ^❤ 04:42, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. It looks as though it's overdue. Tyrenius (talk) 04:57, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/R:128.40.76.3

You may want to look-in on this request. I rather expect that there will be some overlap with the impersonators of me from the Grawp case; i.e. this may be more of one of the groups you saw. Cheers, Jack Merridew 09:13, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My......

...are you stalking my RFB?! "update tally"....?! Anyway, beside that, you ok? Hope life is treating you well... The Rambling Man (talk) 21:34, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

lol - watching your every move, sir! :) Hey - I'm doing okay. Just need a bit of a wikibreak, is all. Day job and kids (aka Real Life™) getting in the way of Wikipedia. Tsk :) - Alison ^❤ 21:55, 28 February 2008 (UTC) (thank you :) )[reply]

Cool, well take it easy. I look forward to those halcyon days when vandals stop bothering, when wiki-bullying and wiki-lawyering packs up and when the bathrobe cabal rule the world....! Cheers for you incredibly kind words by the way. I'll de-sysop asap should I get the ability!! The Rambling Man (talk) 21:58, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

For the comment in my RfB. Despite what happened, I hope I still have your trust as a Wikipedian and an admin, as well as your friendship. Acalamari 22:12, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely! You're one of the good 'uns :) And let me say that if you run again for 'crat in another while, I'll most likely support - Alison ^❤ 22:17, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. :) Acalamari 22:25, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sockfarm

Can you take a look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael L. Vincent please? The socks are coming thick and fast, all similar account name construction too. Thanks! One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 23:01, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done - very predictable result, too - Alison ^❤ 23:16, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I didn't think you'd need much supporting evidence for that one... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 23:18, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Alison

Can you please check this [1]? It's kind of obvious, but a confirmation would be nice. Thanks. --07fan (talk) 23:06, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done - I've declined so you should probably evaluate and block accordingly - Alison ^❤ 23:23, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alison, I am not an admin. But please reconsider the circumstances, this guy is evading 3RR via IPs, is evading 3RR through IPs an acceptable practice? --07fan (talk) 23:26, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's not an acceptable practice, no. But the privacy policy states that IP address and geolocating info should really only be released where there's a strong need (clause 5), and I really don't see us being at that threshold yet - Alison ^❤ 23:31, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough, but what if he continues to evade 3RR and revert with these IPs? --07fan (talk) 23:34, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Then, we can re-evaluate the case if it gets bad enough - Alison ^❤ 23:35, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps not all of us were fooled by AT. . .

Not to toot my own horn, but I believe I was the first to call WP:SHENANIGANS on AT. :) Ronnotel (talk) 23:48, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi!

Hi Alison. I know you are very busy and despite that do an awful lot of work here and I really respect that and appreciate it like I know most others here do as well. A perfect 10 from the Danish judge! However, when you get the time to do this would you please look at this? I have private evidence that I'm not sure what to with nor am I sure that it is really needed but as you know from experience with this guy we need to uncover as much as we can early on so we aren't stuck with a list of 100 accounts and IP's to check in one go again. This guy is known to produce 10-15 accounts in one hour on different IP's when he gets upset. Thanks and once again thank you for all your hard work that I know often carries no reward. EconomicsGuy (talk) 07:13, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done - I'd actually been working this case from earlier on so it didn't take too long to finish up. Interesting result, too - Alison ^❤ 07:38, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Checkusah Green Green

Alison, I think you are doing a great job with checkuser (sorry if I said this before). Checkuser really is a difficult and stressful job, because the IP can be from the same provider and have different ending (i.e. 45.65.34.03 versus 45.65.54.37 [sample IPs]). Anyway, this message is in green, b/c I will be attempting to take a month long break in March. So, this is a "Happy St. Patrick's Day Message" in combination, too.

Later, and don't get too drunk liek teh kitteh! :-P

miranda 16:22, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Miranda :) Enjoy the WikiBreak - catch ya again when you get back! "Lá fhéile Pádraig faoi shona dhuit" - Alison ^❤ 17:38, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ah yes, St. Paddy's day. The one day each year when everyone pretends they have an Irish ancestor. There's also a "leap" St. Paddy's day too you know? There's every four years in theory just like normal leap years, but they don't always happen at four year intervals. The last one on record was in 1994, when England failed to qualify for the world cup and Ireland did, it was astonishing how many English people suddenly claimed Irish ancestry.... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 18:02, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I turn into this brown Irish lass every 17 March. It's all good. Hey, when you're hosting the world's biggest pissup, expect to share! :) ~ Riana ⁂ 18:10, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

*hic* - Alison ^❤ 20:12, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AN/I thread and checkuser results

Hi Alison. In response to your checkuser findings at this AN/I thread, I blocked a number of named accounts, but now I'm worried that I misinterpreted your statement. When you have a minute, would you mind looking at the thread? I assumed that your confirmation applied to all named editors, including Gregg Potts (talk · contribs), but on reflection he's claiming to be framed and I wanted to double-check which accounts, exactly, were tied by technical evidence so I don't make (or persist in making) a horrible mistake. Thanks - MastCell ^Talk 17:19, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Really quick, MastCell (as I just woke up), the checkuser findings explicitly did not include Gregg Potts (talk · contribs) and he is quite

Unrelated to the other accounts - Alison ^❤ 17:25, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I normally wouldn't undo another admin's block without asking but in this case, I've gone ahead and unblocked rather than leave this any longer than it is. Oops! - Alison ^❤ 17:37, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh snap. Looks like I owe someone a sizable apology. Sorry for misreading, and thanks for clearing it up. MastCell ^Talk 17:53, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ron Duvall et al.

Hi, I see that you did the original checkuser on Ron Duvall and friends. Could you have a look at Thespian Seagull (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)? It's a new account that seems suspiciously experienced (his first edit was to create the page Wikipedia:Is wikidrama bad?) and whose interests overlap significantly with Ron's. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 20:42, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The evidence certainly seems overwhelming. Checking so, and

Confirmed. Also Take You There (talk · contribs) - Alison ^❤ 21:16, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Revision as of 20:42, 29 February 2008 edit TenOfAllTrades (talk \| contribs) Administrators 21,267 edits →Ron Duvall et al.: new section ← Previous edit		Revision as of 21:16, 29 February 2008 edit undo Alison (talk \| contribs) Edit filter managers, Autopatrolled, Checkusers, Administrators 47,152 edits →Ron Duvall et al.: done Next edit →
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	Hi, I see that you did the [[Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Ron Duvall\|original checkuser on Ron Duvall and friends]]. Could you have a look at {{userlinks\|Thespian Seagull}}? It's a new account that seems suspiciously experienced (his first edit was to create the page [[Wikipedia:Is wikidrama bad?]]) and whose interests overlap significantly with Ron's. [[User:TenOfAllTrades\|TenOfAllTrades]]([[User_talk:TenOfAllTrades\|talk]]) 20:42, 29 February 2008 (UTC)		Hi, I see that you did the [[Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Ron Duvall\|original checkuser on Ron Duvall and friends]]. Could you have a look at {{userlinks\|Thespian Seagull}}? It's a new account that seems suspiciously experienced (his first edit was to create the page [[Wikipedia:Is wikidrama bad?]]) and whose interests overlap significantly with Ron's. [[User:TenOfAllTrades\|TenOfAllTrades]]([[User_talk:TenOfAllTrades\|talk]]) 20:42, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
			: The evidence certainly seems overwhelming. Checking so, and {{confirmed}}. Also {{User\|Take You There}} - [[User:Alison\|<span style="color:#FF823D;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;cursor:help">'''A<font color="#FF7C0A">l<font color="#FFB550">is</font>o</font>n'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Alison\|❤]]</sup> 21:16, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

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Thank you!

From one to another

Crum375 edit warring again on RFAR

The ridiculous blocks

Unblock request - can you have a look?

Thileepanmathivanian

checkuser request case LakeOswego

rollback

Break!

Thanks

Much deserved

Unblocking Sarah777

Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/R:128.40.76.3

My......

Thanks

Sockfarm

Hi Alison

Perhaps not *all* of us were fooled by AT. . .

Hi!

Checkusah Green Green

AN/I thread and checkuser results

Ron Duvall et al.

Perhaps not all of us were fooled by AT. . .