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"I am a mestiza. I am the product of the Spaniards and the Mapuche Indians, so I can understand both currents, both traditions, and I feel that I can write about it, because I feel it inside." Those are Isabel Allende's own words and this is the source[[1]] The Allende's were originally from Euskadi, but her father's ancestors were in part Mapuche.

que listo eres, no

aver tio llevas aqui 2 dias y ya te crees que vas a cambiarlo todo, esas categorias llevan asi desde siempre, si te pica te rasca, pero no vandalices, joder, un spanish brazilian aunque no sea de origen español, tiene pasaporte y ya es un spanish brazilian, un brazilian spaniard es un español nacido en españa, de origen brasileño, aver si te enteras, no me caliente mas. adios vandalo, Raymond Cruise 16:40, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

y tu porque cojones sabes que no son de origen español?, le has echo a todos la prueba del adn, la verdad es que flipo contigo, dios llevas desde octubre del 2007, yo desde mayo de 2005, tu cambias todo lo que quieras, que yo estoy seguro de lo que hago asi que tengo la conciencia tranquila, te podria responder en ingles, pero como se que me entiendes en español, no pasa nada. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Raymond Cruise (talk • contribs) 15:50, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

bueno, si nos ponemos de acuerdo, se ponen las dos categorias, y no pasa nada, y de paso de disculpo contigo por las formas empleadas, ok? venga cuentame mas de ti, de donde eres? .. Raymond Cruise 17:03, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Chart

Yes agree..yes but the spanish poulation is wrong in the reference also..but i just added it all in from the reference...all seems to be good aprt from the spanish pop.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.42.147.39 (talk) 17:52, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Recent comments

Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Addhoc (talk) 19:31, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

WP:AIV report

Hello – thanks for your report to WP:AIV regarding Opinoso. He has been notified that his previous report to AIV was inappropriate, as AIV is for obvious and persistent vandalism, not disputes between editors. You were also notified that the personal attack you left was inappropriate. If personal attacks continue, in violation of WP:NPA, we have established mechanisms to deal with them and you're welcome to avail yourself of those processes if you feel it's necessary. In the meantime, I've removed your report from AIV, as it is not vandalism and a block is inappropriate. Please let me know if you have questions. Thanks. KrakatoaKatie 19:42, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

You're not being reported, you're not being blamed, you're not in trouble, and you're not being ignored. I left the above message as a courtesy, rather than simply blanking your report without telling you when or why. Many admins wouldn't say anything at all after dismissing a report, but I could tell you were flustered and I thought you'd like to know that someone responded, how I responded, and why.

You called him a name, he called you a name, and now it's time to stop it. Tempers sometimes flare here, and that's okay – within limits. It jumps over the line when the words 'jackass' and 'racist' and the like are hurled between people who don't even know anything about each other. This is a collaborative environment, and it's essential to discuss content to create the encyclopedia. If you can't do that without stress, it's a good idea to step away until you can read and respond to dialogue calmly. One personal attack is not going to get either of you blocked, but if it continues, you can come to WP:ANI, where you'll see what happens when things escalate. Don't let it escalate.

Anyway, I just wanted to let you know that a human being saw your report, and I left the note (two notes now) to tell you about it. If you consider it as being ignored, I really can't help you. Have a nice weekend. - KrakatoaKatie 20:37, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Italian settlement in Argentina

Hi. I've made some edits to the article you created- mostly to improve the language and format. Hopefully you approve! Dionix (talk) 18:12, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

British Chilean

Hello, thank you for your message. I reverted the blanking because it is not appropriate to have blank pages on Wikipedia; see Wikipedia:No blank pages for the guideline on this. Was it your thought that the redirect should be deleted? If so, list it for deletion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion. If you need help with this, let me know. Kind regards. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 20:48, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

April 2008

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to White Latin American, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. --Wikiscribe (talk) 04:25, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Warning:white latin america

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Please refrain from making unnecessary changes to White Latin American. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. Rather than reverting, discuss disputed changes on the talk page. The revision you want is not going to be implemented by edit warring. Thank you.--Wikiscribe (talk) 04:41, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

white latin american

there was no concensus on the removal of the picture also race is a phenotype half of the white population of the united states of america are self hating white guiltist that does not mean they are not white this is encyclopedia its based on fact and che was in fact white obviously as you stated his background is irish and basque, and if you see the talk page i objected to his removal from the box right away, che was a very important figure from latin america and he just happened to be white if pele said he was not black would he be removed from the info box from the Afro-Latin American article i think not because he is black and it is obvious.--Wikiscribe (talk) 05:03, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey Lehoiberri, answer my last question, please: what about 20 images, one from each country? SamEV (talk) 23:20, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm still seeking an answer to this ([2]. Would appreciate a response. Thanks. SamEV (talk) 01:45, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Australian Brazilian

Just a quick caution; your remark could be considered fairly offensive. Ironholds 20:35, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

"They have not contribute to Brazil's history and culture, and they are nowhere in Brazilian society. Why is there a page for an unnotable community? This is such a useless page!". Do you think any Australian Brazilians might be offended to be told they're nowhere and contribute nothing to brazil? That's why it's offensive.Ironholds 05:46, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Again, offensive. Personal opinions are not for wikipedia. You have to have a stronger reason to delete than "I dont think they're an important group of immigrants". and there are altogether 37 million Italian/German Brazillians, so yes, they probably do contribute more, but use of language like that of the AfD is heavily frowned apon. Ironholds 06:01, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Deleting information from Argentine American

I'm curious about this edit, why do you say the study is controversial? How do you know that "most Argentines are not mestizos"? Have you ever even been to Argentina?

Judging by the kind of articles you edit and your self description on your user page, I'd say you have some personal issues regarding your ethnicity and your ancestry. Just because your mom has Italian descent it doesn't mean the rest of the country does... Ever heard of Salta? Jujuy? Tucumán? Catamarca? I'm reverting your edit. –w2bh _{talk•contribs} 19:57, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh come on! I never said I doubted your background, neither have I said that your mom isn't of Italian descent. What I said is that, just because she is, doesn't mean the rest of the country is also.

The study doesn't say Argentines "aren't white". It says that 56% of Argentines have some genetic trace of amerindio. You shouldn't judge a source that's in a language you don't fully comprehend.

"I feel you have something against Argentines?" Well, I'd say that's difficult, given that I am Argentine, born and raised.

Seems like acknowledging that fact that we are not pure european whitey white is somehow bad... I may have something against Argentines. Or maybe you have something against unpure blood?

It's funny, I've lived here all my life, and I've never paid much attention to the "race" issue. Why do you have to get so worked up about it? I have blood from all over the place; for example, my great grandfather (from my father's side) was from Spain, and my grandmother (from my mother's side) is native, from Tucumán. Guess I'm not that white after all...

Finally, I know what the study is called. Just about everybody in my family is studying or has graduated from UBA. –w2bh _{talk•contribs} 22:11, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I shouldn't have made personal remarks. But the study is cited in the Argentina article. –w2bh _{talk•contribs} 16:49, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Italian Argentine

After looking through the RfD, the article, and the DRV, I went ahead and restored the article. It was a goof on my part for not catching it (though they had supposedly taken all the articles out of that batch). Try and be more civil next time though, that was simply an honest mistake by me in deleting that. Wizardman 00:10, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Argentine American Article

It seems that you have a hard time with the truth. Why should my edits make one group look Whiter and another group look less White? My intention is to go about Wikipedia with sources and add to articles that need reality. Many Argentines possess Amerindian genetics... I have no intention on debating whiteness between Mexicans and Argentines... Facts are Facts. Millions of Mexicans are White and Millions of Argentines have Amerindian ancestors. Facts shouldn't bother you. Hasta Luego, Cali567 (talk) 07:16, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

I have changed the wording to fit the source which states that around 56% of Argentines indeed have Amerindian blood. Many will not admit to non-white blood, which is very noticeable in many. Have you seen documentaries on Argentina? I see many that do not fit the "Euroepan" label... Phenotypically they are more Mestizo or Amerindian. Why has it become common to hide Amerindian elements in Argentina? Especially when they are not well hidden. Argentina is a country of much more than 'European copy cat' style. It is a Latin American country, not Nordic. You yourself say you don't look Hispanic?... Hispanic has no look, contrary to what you may think. Amerindian presence in Argentina has been an aspect for longer than it was a country. Cali567 (talk) 08:01, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

"White" Argentine Photo

The photo of the young ladies at the Immigrant Festival (which by the way means Asian/Japanese immigrants can be represented) is not of absolute assurance that the ladies are of European descent... The middle woman looks Asiatic in phenotype and as such isn't a good candidate to represent the White population of Latin America, but rather Eurasian population. Find another picture of White Argentines if you can, there is no problem with Argentines. Cali567 (talk) 19:29, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough, thank you. Cali567 (talk) 19:46, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Argentina

Dear Lehoberri, I have recently improved the ethnicity section, (I have to include the study to prevent further issues) and I wish to know your opinion.

Ps, Don't quit on wikipedia your edits are constructive! (eg the Italian Argentine article) Don't let bad faith users make you quit, you will always have someone to work about italian argentines! Regards, --Fercho85 (talk) 23:45, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Populations

Haha, sending messages to yourself Fercho85/Lehoberri! I have not used words saying that 56% of Argentines are Mestizo. I understand that to be Mestizo you should be more or less half and half (Which is hard to determine after many generations.) Half of all Argentines have Amerindian ancestors, that is a fact. That statement doesn't mean they are Mestizo... although many are. Many Mestizo's pass for White in Latin America. Argentina is no different from any other Latin American country, except for its imitation of "European" culture. As most Argentines have Indian blood, it is not a fact that Argentina is a "White" country in Latin America. Brazil or Uruguay maybe, but not Argentina. Cali567 (talk) 06:01, 9 July 2008 (UTC)