Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/New York State Route 373

New York State Route 373

Nominator(s): Shoemaker's Holiday, Mitch32, Juliancolton

• Featured article candidates/New York State Route 373

While the road is quite short (just over three miles), I think this is a detailed and comprehensive article on the road. The sourcing is strong, the text well-written, and, though the road's short length limits the length of the article, there is nowhere it could be merged. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 19:55, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

• Note: Drive-by nomination. Per FAC instructions, have you contacted the article's contributors (Mitchazenia and Juliancolton) whether they believe the article is ready for FAC? Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 21:41, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
  • This is no drive by - I have a FAC and I asked if he could do it - there is no problem here - he is also interested in helping out with any changes.Mitch32^(UP) 21:45, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
    • I wouldn't say you asked me, so much as mentioned the problem when we were talking. Wikiporoject New York Roads doesn excellent work, so when I heard there was an article ready, but unable to be nominated, I jumped at the chance. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 21:51, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
      • Alright, thanks for the explanation. I didn't see any recent communication between you two, so I assumed it was a drive-by nomination. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 21:55, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Comment Most of the paragraphs start with "NY 373" in the Route Description and History sections. It wouldn't make logical sense to start every paragraph with the same word now, is it? --Splat5572 (talk) 06:42, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Fixed, I think? Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 12:39, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Comments - sources look good (as usual) links checked out with the link checker tool (It's saying one is a pdf and needs to be marked as such, but the footnote correctly lists it as a pdf, so it's good.) Ealdgyth - Talk 12:59, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Comments on images

• Image:New York Route 373 map.png - The map description needs to indicate from whence cometh its information - what source did the mapmaker use to make the map? Also, ideally all maps should be in SVG format. Awadewit (talk) 15:29, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

(1) The prose needs work; (2) MoS breaches; (3) not comprehensive, I feel.

I've copy-edited the lead to show how the whole text might be brought up to a more professional standard. I managed to remove quite a words and streamline the wording in a few places; the shortened form needed exposure at the start; please check through it now. Please read MoS on spaced en dashes; I've corrected one. Hard-spaces are preferred by MoS in "Route 373" and the like, although is probably unnecessary in the five-word full version (see what you think). Is it really necessary to bold the Turnpike title as well? It seem to mess with the bold in the adjacent infobox and generally with the appearance of the text.

I'm very disappointed to see how short the article is; I don't believe there are not troves of more information relevant to an article that "is among our best work" in the literature, and in documentation that wouldn't represent OR. I've made the point before that establishing contacts with personnel in the relevant authorities, even contractors, could provide access to valuable and interesting information about planning and construction. Aren't there local-government records or oral history accounts from the areas served by the road that would enrich the article? How did the road change the local economies and lifestyles? Nominations should be setting the standards for all US road articles ... I'll be interested to see how this article expands and improves. Tony (talk) 08:17, 23 August 2008 (UTC)