User talk:Ottava Rima

If you have any problems, concerns, or just want to comment on my actions and behavior in general, please leave a message here, or if you would like to discuss things, my talk page and email is available for use. A watch page has been created that will list areas that I might have problems with and may need help with. - Ottava Rima

Milton

To create: (4-5)

• John Milton's poetic style
• + John Milton's reception history
• John Milton's literary influence
• + John Milton's religion
• + John Milton's politics
• John Milton's blindness
• + John Milton's early life
• John Milton's later life
• + John Milton's relationships

Poets to create: (0-4)

• + On the Morning of Christ's Nativity
• + The Passion (Milton)
• + Upon the Circumcision
• + Arcades (Milton)

Tracts to create: (6-11)

• + Milton's antiprelatical tracts
• + Of Prelatical Episcopacy (antiprelatical tract)
• + Animadversions (antiprelatical tract)
• + Apology for Smectymnuus (antiprelatical tract)
• + Doctrine and Discipline of Divorce (divorce tract)
• + Judgement of Martin Bucer Concerning Divorce (divorce tract)
• + Tetrachordon (divorce tract)
• + Colasterion (divorce tract)
• + A Treatise of Civil Power
• The Likeliest Means to Remove Hirelings from the Church
• + The Ready and Easy Way to Establish a Free Commonwealth
• Brief Notes Upon a Late Sermon
• Accedence Commenced Grammar
• Artis logicae plenior institutio Art of Logic (Milton)
• Of True Religion
• Epistolae Familiaries (Letter to a Friend)
• Prolusiones

To expand: (3-6)

• + L'Allegro 1.5k (expand to 10k)
• + Il Penseroso 1.5k (expand to 10k)
• Paradise Regained 4k (expand to 20k)
• Samson Agonistes 3.5k (expand to 20k)
• + Of Reformation 1.5k (expand to 10k) (antiprelatical tract)
• + The Reason of Church-Government Urged against Prelaty .5k (expand to 5k) (antiprelatical tract)
• + The Tenure of Kings and Magistrates 1k (expand to 10k)
• + Eikonoklastes 2k (expand to 10k)
• + Defensio Secunda .5k (expand to 5k)
• History of Britain (John Milton) 3k (expand to 15k)

Created/expanded pages needing leads or needing copyedit work: (26 out of 39)

• ++ John Milton's early life
• ++ L'Allegro
• ++ Il Penseroso
• ++ On the Morning of Christ's Nativity
• ++ The Passion (Milton)
• ++ Upon the Circumcision
• ++ Arcades (Milton)
• ++ John Milton's religion
• ++ Milton's antiprelatical tracts
• ++ Of Prelatical Episcopacy (antiprelatical tract)
• ++ Animadversions (antiprelatical tract)
• ++ Apology for Smectymnuus (antiprelatical tract)
• ++ Of Reformation (antiprelatical tract)
• ++ The Reason of Church-Government Urged against Prelaty (antiprelatical tract)
• ++ John Milton's relationships
• ++ Doctrine and Discipline of Divorce (divorce tract)
• ++ Judgement of Martin Bucer Concerning Divorce (divorce tract)
• ++ Tetrachordon (divorce tract)
• ++ Colasterion (divorce tract)
• ++ John Milton's reception history
• ++ John Milton's politics
• ++ The Tenure of Kings and Magistrates
• ++ Eikonoklastes
• ++ Defensio Secunda
• ++ A Treatise of Civil Power
• ++ The Ready and Easy Way to Establish a Free Commonwealth

Possible DYK sets:

Finished DYK sets: (26 pages)

• ... that the early poetry of John Milton, including Christ's Nativity, The Passion, Upon the Circumcision, Arcades, L'Allegro, and Il Penseroso, was not published until 1645? (7)

• ... that the religious views of John Milton can be found in his antiprelatical tracts: Of Reformation, Of Prelatical Episcopacy, Animadversions, Reason of Church-Government, and Apology for Smectymnuus? (7)

• ... that the failed marriage of John Milton inspired his divorce tracts: Doctrine and Discipline of Divorce, Judgement of Martin Bucer, Tetrachordon, and Colasterion? (5)

• ... that the political works of John Milton, including Tenure of Kings, Eikonoklastes, Defensio Secunda, Civil Power, and Ready and Easy Way, were controversial but still sold well? (7)

Will update and expand shortly. Ottava Rima (talk) 20:55, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Sign up

If anyone wants to help, post here. Ottava Rima (talk) 20:55, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Milton Bibliography

• Barker, Arthur. Milton and the Puritan Dilemma 1641-1660. Toronto: University of Toronto Press, 1942.
• Brisman, Leslie. Milton's Poetry of Choice and Its Romantic Heirs. Ithaca: Cornell University Press, 1973.
• Evans, Robert. Milton's Elisions. Gainsville: University of Flordia Press, 1966.
• Fichter, Andrew. Poets Historical: Dynastic Epic in the Renaissance. New Haven: Yale University Press, 1982.
• Giamatti, A. Barlett. The Earthly Paradise and the Renaissance Epic. New York: W W Norton & Company, 1966.
• Goslee, Nancy. Uriel's Eye. University, Alabama: University of Alabama Press, 1985.
• Gregory, Tobias. From Many Gods to One. Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2006.
• Ingram, William and Swaim, Kathleen. A Concordance to Milton's English Poetry. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1972.
• Lares, Jameela. Milton and the Preaching Arts. Pittsburg: Duquesne University Press, 2001.
• Lawry, Jon. The Shadow of Heaven. Ithaca: Cornell University Press, 1968.
• McDill, Joseph. Milton and the Pattern of Calvinism. Nashville: The Joint University Libraries, 1942.
• Miller, Leo. John Milton among the Polygamophiles. New York: Loewenthal Press, 1974.
• Quint, David. Epic and Empire. Princeton: Princeton University Press, 1993.
• Revard, Stella. Milton and the Tangles of Neaera's Hair. Columbia: University of Missouri Press, 1997.
• Shawcross, John. John Milton: The Self and the World. Lexington: University Press of Kentucky, 1993.
• Sherbo, Arthur. English Poetic Diction From Chaucer to Wordsworth. East Lansing: Michigan State University Press, 1975.

• Todd, H. J. Some Account of the Life and Writings of John Milton. London, 1826.
• Stevens, David Harrison. Reference Guide to Milton: From 1800 to the Present Day. Chicago, The University of Chicago Press, 1930.

• Milton, John. The Complete Poetry and Essential Prose of John Milton. ed. William Kerrigan, John Rumrich, and Stephen Fallon. New York: The Modern Library, 2007.
• Milton, John. A Variorum Commentary on the Poems of John Milton 5 vols

Collections:

• A Companion to Milton. Ed. Thomas Corns. Oxford: Blackwell Publishing, 2003.
• Lewalski, Barbara. "Genre"
• Hale, John. "The Classical Literary Tradition"
• Schwartz, Regina. "Milton on the Bible"
• Parry, Graham. "Literary Baroque and Literary Neoclassicism"
• Guibbory, Achsah. "Milton and English Poetry"
• Corns, Thomas. "Milton's English"
• Brown, Cedric. "The Legacy of the Late Hacobean Period"
• Keeble, N. H. "Milton and Puritanism"
• Rumrich, John. "Radical Heterodoxy and Heresy"
• McColley, Diane. "Milton and Ecology"
• Hadfield, Andrew. "The English and Other People"
• Raymond, Joad. "The Literature of Controversy"
• Corns, Thomas. "'On the Morning of Christ's Nativity', 'Upon the Circumcision' and 'The Passion'"
• Comus, Lycidas (unnecessary)
• Wheeler, Elizabeth. "Early Political Prose"
• Patterson, Annabel. "Milton, Marriage and Divorce"
• Dzelzainis, Martin. "Republicanism"
• Knoppers, Laura. "Late Political Prose"
• Fallon, Stephen. "Paradise Lost in Intellectual History"
• Loewenstein, David. "The Radical Religious Politics of Paradise Lost"
• other stuff on PL unnecessary
• Leonard, John. "Self-Contradicting Puns in Paradise Lost"
• Achinstein, Sharon. "Samson Agonistes"
• Kean, Margaret. "Paradise Regained"
• Stevenson, Kay Gilliland. "Reading Milton, 1674-1800"
• Kitson, Peter. "Milton: The Romantics and After"
• Campbell, Gordon. "The Life Records"

• The Cambridge Companion to Milton. Ed. Dennis Danielson. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2003.
• Dobranski, Stephen. "Milton's social life"
• Comus and Lycidas (unnecessary)
• Burrow, Colin. "Poems 1645: the future poet"
• Dzelzainis, Martin. "Milton's politics"
• Corns, Thomas. "Milton's prose"
• Hall, R. F. "Milton's sonnests and his contemporaries"
• PL (unnecessary)
• Danielson, Dennis. "The Fall and Milton's theodicy"
• Carey, John. "Milton's Satan"
• McColley, Diane. "Milton and the sexes"
• Christopher, Georgia. "Milton and the reforming spirit"
• Radzinowicz, Mary Ann. "How Milton read the bible: the case ofParadise Regained
• Bennet, Joan. "Reading samson Agonistes"
• Von Maltzahn, Nicholas. "Milton's readers"
• Kerrigan, William. "Milton's place in intellectual history"
• Seimens, R. G. "Milton's work and life: selected studies and resources"

RCC comments

Ottava, Marskell left some comments on my talk page regarding RCC. Sandy, Karanacs and Malleus also commented. I responded to them but I was wondering what you thought about all this since you helped so much in the last peer review. Please let me know if you are in agreement with them - I disagreed. See [1] - Sandy's post is just below it. NancyHeise ^talk 04:04, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Mushrooms redux

Sorry I didn't get back to this, but I had a rather lengthy and involved FAC wrapping up. Interesting journal, although it predates the clarification of the identity of the hallucinogenic fungus as Amanita muscaria. I am reading some stuff and anything else which turns up I am grateful. Mushrooms are elusive to get mateiral on... :) Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:38, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Sigh

Please don't be offended by a simple merger proposal. As I said in my edit summary - and that's my only concern - I see no point in creating biographical standalone articles for certain periods of a person's life. I'll happily discuss this on the relevant talk pages. As to your to-do-list, I do support the other articles regarding his reception, style, etc. De728631 (talk) 17:55, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Milton again

Good... I'm still working on them. In the meantime Johnbod has put up a page on John Baptist Medina, the earliest illustrator of Paradise Lost.. perhaps you could tie that into the hook as well. Lithoderm 00:10, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Profuse apologies

After starting the entire Milton thing, I feel terrible that I haven't been able to work on it. I have just gotten out of the hospital, though. I won't be able to edit Wikipedia much in the coming weeks. Thanks for your hard work on the Milton articles. I'll try to do some work on them when I can. Awadewit (talk) 03:28, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Milton at DYK

Ottava Rima, please try to be civil with other editors at DYK. I understand that you have put a lot of work into these Milton articles and it may be frustrating to see people criticizing them, but the people at DYK are here to help you, not to attack you. I have not responded to your apology at my talk page because I didn't feel ready to communicate with you yet, but after seeing your comments to Suntag I think you owe him an apology. Remarks such as "Sit and watch WP:FAC for a few weeks and you'll learn a lot" in the context where you made them are quite condescending, and this message in particular was pompous and rude—"I work on FAs. I know how to build them and how to build the encyclopedia," as if the rest of us don't know how to build an encyclopaedia and should do what you say?

The DYK page is for discussing how to improve an article to the point that it can be featured on the main page, not for arguing and attacking. It's not an AfD discussion where one person wins and one loses; it's a collaborative effort. Please try to restrict your comments there to comments about how we can work together to get your articles ready for the main page, and not to attacks and debates. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 06:47, 8 December 2008 (UTC)