User talk:McDoobAU93

The term "canon"

Sorry, I don't know how to speak to you but what is wrong with Canon? Why do you have the authority to control the Disney page may I ask McDoob? What is wrong with that term? That is what the films are collectively called. Why can't I change the Rapunzel page? It is the 50th film in the CANON. I did not write anything derogatory or wrong, I wanted to change it to reflect the canon. It has to be 'produced by the studio' because you wrote it like that right? It is the 50th film, from the official Disney Animation website. What is the difference? It is cited on the main List of Disney theatrical animated features, I have to cite the fact that it is a part of the canon? Maybe you can do that since you control everything? I may note that the official website does not state 'Official List' so it's just your own choice right? I remember before that it was Official Canon, which sounds better to me. Admit it, you control the wording of everything. You just don't want anyone else messing up your work. I apologize if I am being rude, but you are just hiding behind the fact that I didn't cite anything. Cite what? When I change one word from list to canon when you already wrote it is named the canon?

Androllercoaster

McDoobAU93,How exactly do all of you communicate? I mean,you guys have like long discussions.Is there a way for me to have other people ask or tell me things?Because I would like to get into this more.PS:were you mad at me for the hollywood rip ride rockit stuff? I just did not know how to get my proof.Please reply! =D

Rollback

I have granted rollback rights to your account; the reason for this is that after a review of some of your contributions, I believe you can be trusted to use rollback correctly, and for its intended usage of reverting vandalism, and that you will not abuse it by reverting good-faith edits or to revert-war. For information on rollback, see Wikipedia:New admin school/Rollback and Wikipedia:Rollback feature. If you do not want rollback, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Good luck and thanks. JamieS93 18:36, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your vote of confidence. I'll do my best to live up to it. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 01:01, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

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== will they stop? ==

I know that I have not ben around latley, but I heard you and PMDrive talking about that guy who is messing up articles(before I made this message).Anyway,please let me know how I can help.Oh,and I havent made up my mind about adopt a user.Sorry.I will think more about it.--Androllercoaster (talk) 21:44, 17 December 2009 (UTC)'

Same guy...

Someone up in the high desert needs a nice, long timeout.  :) Sure enough, it was that same IP in Hesperia. I blocked it for three months, but if you see similar vandalism, please let me know. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 03:03, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

• Oh, it's a pleasure to block sneaky, subtle vandalism like this. There is nothing worse than a plausible-looking edit which is completely bogus. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 03:07, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

It's all about you, bro. I'm signing off.  :) Roll away! --PMDrive1061 (talk) 03:11, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Carowinds

If Carowinds has a new owner, then shouldn't the article say so?Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 20:59, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Okay. Quoting directly from the source, "Carowinds is coming under new ownership.

Cedar Fair LP, owner of the attraction along the Carolinas border at Charlotte, has agreed to be acquired by Apollo Global Management for about $635 million in cash."

If you feel that's not enough progress for it to be reported there, then we can wait.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:30, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

This source still shows the sale as "proposed." When it's a done deal, then it can be changed. Two recent examples of this are the sale of the SeaWorld parks to the Blackstone Group (announced in October, deal finished in November) and the sale of Marvel to Disney (sale announced in September or so, completed yesterday). --McDoobAU93 (talk) 22:20, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Well, my source obviously didn't say the deal was completed. I decided that the Apollo Management article needed changing as well, because it had Cedar listed as one of its companies. The Cedar Fair article needed the details I put in the Carowinds article anyway.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 22:23, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

My pleasure

I tell you, I have never seen anythng quite like this guy. Why his parents haven't recognized his odd behavior is beyond me, but I'm glad we have the upper hand. Thanks for the nice words.  :) --PMDrive1061 (talk) 18:30, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Running Man plot

Good work trimming it down...again. I actually reverted the plot one time to a previous version you made, but a lot of people just bloated the damn thing. --Eaglestorm (talk) 06:26, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Okay!

This brings me back to the Hollywood Rip Ride Rockit stuff.I wasent doing it on purpose,I just did not understand. Thank you! I'll keep my eyes open.--Androllercoaster (talk) 00:59, 9 January 2010 Bold text(UTC)

No worries ... I don't even think I've edited that article in several weeks LOL --McDoobAU93 (talk) 01:08, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

You betcha.

I thought it was that drooling dweeb Bambifan101 at first, but the geolocator showed the IP to be in New York. I've seen that same sort of crapola on those same sorts of articles from that same area. When I have some time, I'll slap some semi-protection on the target articles. It'll keep this bizarre little person and Bambifan away for awhile. BF101 is pretty much done for over here. He tried to edit via his school IP at Simple English, but he's been blocked long-term over there as well. Yeah, nothing like being obsessed with "Wow! Wow! Wubbzy!" Sheesh. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 23:46, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

That may not be such a bad idea, considering a large number of questionable edits on these articles (such as List of Disney feature films, List of Warner Bros. films and the like) are common targets of IP vandals. That said, a number of IP edits here are constructive, too, so not sure what the collateral damage would be. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 23:50, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

another for your watch list

feel free to comment on the "AFD" section, if you would like. Winnie the Pooh (2011 film) SpikeJones (talk) 04:20, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Done. I concur that it's a bit early for this one yet. Has anyone thought of starting up an article for the Disney Pooh franchise? Some good material would be brief summaries of the films, the various lawsuits that have been brought against Disney over the franchise, etc. Until such time as the film is fully announced per WP:FILMS and WP:NFF, this would be a good subhead for that article. I may start tinkering with it in my sandbox, if you'd like to help out there. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 05:04, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

D'oh. There is such an article. I'll revise my comment on the talk page to suggest this should be merged into said article. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 05:11, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

More fun...

Consider the IP blocked. It isn't Bambifan, but he's still being a pain. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 01:51, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks again!

I really, really appreciate that you thought to watch my back regarding that stupidity on my user page. Owe you yet again. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 04:02, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

• Oh, and while I'm at it:

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		For genuine kindness and thoughtfulness in regards to the recent reversions of vandalism on my talk page, it is my pleasure to award this Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar to McDoobAU93. Thank you for your help. It is very much appreciated! Regards, PMDrive1061 (talk) 04:04, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Mentorship

I write because your name is listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject User Rehab. I wonder if you might consider joining others in sharing the burden of a mentorship committee for me?

Perhaps you might consider taking a look at an old edit at Wikipedia:Mentorship#Unintended consequences? In the search for a mentor deemed acceptable by ArbCom, I cite this as a plausible context for discussing what I have in mind.

Please contact me by e-mail or on my talk page. --Tenmei (talk) 06:13, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your time and consideration. As a gesture of appreciation, may I share a rhetorical question from the Analects of Confucius: "Is it not pleasant to learn with a constant perseverance and application?"

Please contact me via Wikipedia's e-mail function. I would like to introduce myself in an off-wiki setting. --Tenmei (talk) 18:26, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Two rakan evoke a teachable moment, searching together for a focal point?

Thank you for your willingness to participate in a mentorship group. Please replace your username with your signature (four tildes ~~~~) in the list of "active mentors" at User talk:Tenmei/Sub-page Alerts. This is necessary step in a constructive direction.

You may find that what I'm asking for is probably less than you imagine in the short term, or perhaps more than you anticipate in the long term. --Tenmei (talk) 06:47, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Adoption

Hey McDoob. Sorry it has taken me so long to reply, but I've been busy and haven't been able to come on the site. Anyway, thank you very much for the offer, and I would like to accept. In terms of what I want to learn, I know the basics of writing pages, and I use correct grammar and stuff, but my work usually lack citations. I would like to learn about how to put them in properly (as I usually make some silly mistake) and what types of websites i can use as sources. For example, on my page Heathland School I did not use any citations. Would the school website be a reliable source, or would it be too biased? Is an Ofsted report reliable enough? These are the sorts of issues I would like to learn about. Thanks, Chindit96 (talk) 18:59, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your warm welcome. In response to your question, Ofstead is a government department that inspects schools, and the inspectors are approved by Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II. I think they inspect schools once every five or six years, though I'm not certain. Anyway, I think they are propably going to be as unbiased as it gets. In other news, I enjoy video games so I may probably be editing a bit on games for Playstation 3 (though forget my edit on Barbie Horse Adventures). Anyway, thanks again, and I hope you will be able to help me with any problems in the future. Chindit96 (talk) 20:33, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

I had a feeling it was some official report, and that would indeed be a reliable source for information on your school. Incidentally, a source does not necessarily have to be on the web to be considered a reliable one. If you have a published book, or an article in your local newspaper, those can be cited as well. The formatting for each form of citation is very similar, and I'll be sure to go over that with you.

I looked at your edits on Barbie Horse Adventures and you by all means did the right thing, although, in fairness, these edits weren't necessarily pure vandalism. Yes, they were not constructive and did not help the article, and you were 100% correct in undoing/reverting them. However, one thing we try and do here is give new users the benefit of the doubt ... that is, we assume good faith. Most likely, the people who added that stuff there were just playing around, and didn't really mean any harm. In those cases, a quick undo and a short note on the editor's talk page is enough. Now, if they had just erased everything on the page for no reason, then that would be vandalism.

Patrolling for vandalism is something I do a lot ... I keep track of close to 500 articles and user pages, and fortunately the vast majority of edits made are done in good faith. I assume that you've discovered the Watchlist, which will help you see when an article you're monitoring has changed. That's a very valuable tool here, in my opinion.

Anyway, feel free to contact me here with any questions or problems. I'll try and respond as quickly as I can, either here or on your talk page.

--McDoobAU93 (talk) 22:44, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Running Man

I'll find some sources when I have the time. 76.189.162.7 (talk) 00:18, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

I wasn't gonna add again until I found sources 76.189.162.7 (talk) 00:21, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Pixar film release dates

I see you changed Cars 2's release date. Is either The Bear and the Bow or Newt (film) on your watchlist?? Please check out the talk pages of these articles. Georgia guy (talk) 15:51, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Question

You are attacking me and taking off everything that I post. Example: The Kingdom Keepers Game is actually being made and is not a "controversial edit". I was just wondering what your problem was and why you keep deleting my posts and contributions. I take what you post on my talk page as if you are attacking me. You need to stop. Can you please tell me the place where I can file a report? Bellagio2 (talk) 03:01, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

The biggest problem is that you are not citing verifiable and reliable sources for your edits. Twitter, fan-blogs, unofficial sites and such do not count as reliable sources. Local newspapers, television stations, major news sites (like CNN or Fox News) are all reliable sources and should be cited when making such edits.

Honestly, I believe you're working in good faith, but uncited is still uncited. If you have proof of your edits, then I'll be glad to help keep them there. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 03:05, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

If you visit the future game website, you will find that it leads to his website. Also, if you look at the top of the Kingdom Keepers Wiki site you will see that is says "As stated on his twitter account, there are rumors of a Kingdom Keepers attraction coming to Walt Disney World. It was also announced that there will be a Kingdom Keepers game." Why not get rid of that then?Bellagio2 (talk) 03:09, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

I followed the link ... that's a Flash game to promote the book. There's nothing to indicate a separate, stand-alone game is being prepared. And yes, I will remove the info on the WDW attraction because there is no proof of it, either. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 03:16, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Um... what flash game. I'm talking about thekingdomkeepers.com. I have no clue what you are talking about. Bellagio2 (talk) 03:19, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

OK, please post a link here on my talk page that leads directly to the mention of a game. I went to TheKingdomKeepers.com and it was a redirect to Pearson's website. I'll be glad to look at whatever you're trying to cite as a source. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 03:23, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Well... Here is his twitter: http://twitter.com/RidleyPearson. I'll check his blog. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bellagio2 (talk • contribs) 03:26, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Like I said in the edit summary, Twitter is not considered a reliable source for an encyclopedia. The author's personal blog isn't going to be much better, I'm sorry to say. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 03:28, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

So what should you do if you are absolutely positive that it is true? Any suggestions?Bellagio2 (talk) 03:32, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

If it is absolutely positively true, then you should have no trouble at all finding a verifiable and reliable source stating that. Look, I can gather you're a fan of Pearson's work, and probably Disney in general. You're making edits as a fan, not as an editor of an encyclopedia. I think you can become the latter without much trouble, because you are interested in the subject and want to share your knowledge about it. However, an encyclopedia is based on facts, not rumors, thoughts, musings, wishes, etc.

If Disney was actively designing a Kingdom Keepers attraction, then they missed a golden opportunity at the D23 Expo to discuss it. They may well be, but like so many attractions Disney has actively worked on, such as the Switzerland and Spanish World Showcase pavilions or Thunder Mesa in Frontierland or even Beastly Kingdom, they may never come to be. Similarly, if a game is being developed, it may well get to the beta stage before Disney decides it won't sell well and pulls the plug.

--McDoobAU93 (talk) 03:43, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much. However, when you say "it may well get to the beta stage before Disney decides it won't sell well and pulls the plug." you are implying that the game won't come through. How do you know that? Bellagio2 (talk) 03:49, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

I don't know if it will or it won't, my friend. It was a hypothetical situation. Speaking purely on video games, history is loaded with vaporware, games that are heavily touted, but never materialize. People's tastes change, markets change. What I mean is that assuming that Disney (or someone working for them) is indeed preparing a game based on Kingdom Keepers, several things could happen:

• Everything could work out fine, Disney releases the game and makes money.
• The game may not be working out, but Disney still wants to release something, so they go back to the drawing board and start over. The next version works fine and is released and makes money.
• The game may not be working out, and Disney decides to cut its losses and cancel the game.

Again, any one of these things could happen during the development cycle, and could happen before the first published information hits the internet or a newspaper. That's why we don't post rumors or speculation, or even posts from a hopeful author eager to see his work take other forms.

--McDoobAU93 (talk) 04:02, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Also, I am not exactly a fan of his or disney's work... I just finished reading his book. I looked him up and read his Twitter. I was surprised it wasn't on the Wikipedia site, so I decided to update it. Quick Question, is it against wiki's rules to talk against someone else's work? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bellagio2 (talk • contribs) 03:57, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Bellagio2 (talk) 03:58, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

OK, fair enough ... bad assumption on my part, but the core points remain. No worries. :) Anyway to your question. If you're saying "talk against someone else's work", what do you mean, specifically? Do you mean something critical of Mr. Pearson's books, or someone critical of your edits? --McDoobAU93 (talk) 04:02, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Just in general. Like if you just come back from a movie or something. Can you mention if it was a great movie or a horrible movie on your talk page? Bellagio2 (talk) 04:03, 12 February 2010 (UTC) (Sorry a little off topic)

Nothing is off-topic on my user page, my friend. Feel free to ask anything you like, and I'll answer it. I'm really not trying to be a killjoy, especially because I made the same sorts of edits here when I first started. I made edits based on stuff I knew 100% to be true ... but for Wikipedia, that doesn't necessarily make it so. Look at it this way, you're following one of Wikipedia's main rules: be bold! We'll help you work out the rest. :)

To answer the question, your user page is just that, yours. While there is nothing in the rules saying you can't post such things, be mindful that Wikipedia is not a social networking site or a blog site. But if you come back from seeing The Lightning Thief tomorrow (or this weekend) and wanna say how cool it was (or how much it sucked) on your user page, you can do so without fear of reprisal or getting it deleted or whatever. You just can't add such stuff to the movie's article here, or to its talk page (as that is using the article's talk page as a forum, something it shouldn't be used for).

--McDoobAU93 (talk) 04:14, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!!! Sorry about posting something off topic here though. Bellagio2 (talk) 04:16, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Well the subheading is "Question", and that was a question, so I wouldn't call it off-topic. :) --McDoobAU93 (talk) 04:21, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Haha thanks!!! :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bellagio2 (talk • contribs) 04:22, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome ... and no hard feelings, I hope. None here, I promise you. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 04:34, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Yeh no hard feelings. Sorry about that post the other day. I really did not mean it because at first I thought it was an automated message and I was dealing with a computer. Bellagio2 (talk) 04:39, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Apology accepted. Feel free to contact me anytime if you have questions or problems or whatever, and I'll do what I can. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 04:44, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Ok thanks. I guess I'll talk to you later!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bellagio2 (talk • contribs) 04:46, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Nice to be back...I think...

Yeah, I happened to see that idiocy from the sidelines. I was away last weekend and dropped by Collectonian's talk page and contribs on my cell phone. When I saw that idiot's latest attempt, I almost let out a litany of cursing that would have made a sailor blush. In any event, we've blocked four BellSouth ranges and his school IP. If he does pop up, odds are it'll be from the computer of some poor sap he managed to talk into letting him use. He is truly a sorry case; one can only hope he grows out of this. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 03:35, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

• Looks more like "lost newbie" than vandal. Based on what I saw, you're doing fine with helping to guide him. I don't have time to step in, but I'll sure do so when I have a moment. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 03:54, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

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Dueling Dragons closure

Hey there. I'd just thought I'd mention that a post on the IOA screamscape page stated that an insider found that Dueling Dragons would close on February 26 and would be replaced by Dragon Challenge when Wizarding World opens in Spring. Would it be possible to find a verifiable source which could be added to the article? Also, if the attraction is closed on Feb. 26, do you think it would be reasonable to have two seperate articles for Dueling Dragons and Dragon Challenge, in the vein of the Flying Unicorn and Flight of the Hippogriff articles? thanks. --Snowman Guy (talk) 14:58, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

In my opinion, there should only be one article for each. In each case, when the changeover is made and the attraction is operational, the bulk of the single article will be to discuss the current version of the attraction (i.e., the Potter version). A subheading under each should discuss what it was before (i.e., the Lost Continent version). The articles for both versions of Unicorn should be merged, since they're basically the same thing. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 17:29, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Speaking of re-themed versions, Aren't the Unicorn to Hippogriff and Dueling to Challenge versions similar to the Earthquake to Disaster and Hanna-Barbera to Jimmy Neutron versions at the Studios park? What is your opinion on these articles?--Snowman Guy (talk) 20:12, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

ArbCom process

Is this something you need to know? Your name is included in a new posting at Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Clerks Noticeboard#Discussion/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Tang Dynasty? As for what happens next, we'll see? --Tenmei (talk) 08:50, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

As you know, ArbCom remedies in Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Tang Dynasty implied a multi-step process; however, no protocols for confirming mentors were suggested. In the absence of specifics, User:Mattisse/Plan was taken as an arguably relevant procedural model. Accordingly, a draft plan and list of mentors was e-mailed to each ArbCom member and redundantly posted at WP:AC/CN. That seems not to have worked.

I have now sought "approval" at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification#Tang Dynasty. This message is necessary because the standard template requires me to confirm notifying you. --Tenmei (talk) 20:59, 18 February 2010 (UTC)