Talk:Houston Texans

"The team with the most potential"

WTF? That's totally, um, true, and not uh not fan bias at all.

Improvement drive

National Football League is currently a candidate on WP:IDRIVE. Vote for it if you are interested!--Fenice 20:39, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Name of the new team

The article should answer: When the team moved and changed their name to the Titans, why was the expansion team named the Texans instead of naming it the new Oilers? (That is, why didn't they mirror what happened after the Browns moved and became the Ravens, and the new Cleveland team became the new Browns.) Tempshill 05:28, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

LA's indifference a "mystery"?

This sentence was minor, but a laugher: For reasons unknown and unexplained, Los Angeles seemed to be indifferent with the prospect of being awarded an NFL franchise. No real progress seemed to be made toward securing a suitable stadium (both the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum and the Rose Bowl are aging facilities). --uh, there was a lot written in the LA Times and many other major media sources about the LA area's issue with taxes and public funds for the stadium (as well as the less interest in the average LA resident). I'll have to dig up an article and remove this humously uniformed statement. -- Bobak 21:21, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

New name Vs. New Oilers

1. The Oilers name has been "retired" by The NFL to keep the winning traditions in Houston 2.Texans was chosen after an name contest 3.The Titans still old the name and records of the Oilers 4.Most people hate bud adams in houston.

Reloaction to Los Angeles

you should put in that the team is moving to Los Angeles.

Add it to the article yourself...make sure you provide a source.Postoak 02:44, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

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Should AFL/NFL history in Houston be removed?

If this is article is based on the Houston Texans why a history of football in Houston. I feel the what is said in the into of the article is enough. The History of the Oilers is covered in the Titans article. Thoughts? If we want to cover the history of NFL Football in Houston we should create an article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mickeyp2814 (talk • contribs) 17:28, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Nickname, logo and uniforms

Can the uni they wore with the Red Jersey and Red pants be added. I am not sure but I think they have only wore it this season. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mickeyp2814 (talk • contribs) 17:33, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

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needs work

The article is told as it is a story and from a person point of view. Also there are no citions verifying what is being stated. --Mickey 18:37, 30 December 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mickeyp2814 (talk • contribs)

after rereading the article and trying to find facts to support the article I realize that there is a LOT that is not correct or may be correct but the evenets are not right. Also there are several pages that link to this page for it's content and it would be nice if the content was right. One think I saw that was not correct was McNair almost buying the Edmonton Oilers and moving them to Houston. This is false. It was Les Alexander, the owner of the Rockets, that almost did this. I can not find a solid website stating McNair was ever involved in bringing Hockey to Houston. I am still looking but most seem to have read this article and based their info off of it. I am going to still research and get this right! --Mickey 19:51, 30 December 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mickeyp2814 (talk • contribs)

More about the Oilers trademark, etc.

I did a little work on the section about the history of the "Texans" nickname and logo. The previous version has a VERY dubious statement about the Oilers trademark. The trademark is not unavailable because it was "retired": on the contrary, it was unavailable because it is still in use. The Tennessee Titans (who played as the Tennessee Oilers for a while) still own the trademark and they still actively use it on merchandise, etc. They also take the field on occasion in "throwback" Oilers uniforms. We don't really know if Bud McNair and his partners even wanted to use the old nickname and logo anyway: it is very conceivable that they wanted to start with an entirely new identity for their team. (The Cleveland Browns situation, by the way, was totally different and has nothing much to do with what happened in Houston, even if both the Texans and the revived Browns were repopulating NFL markets which had been abandoned during the 1990s.) Finally, the section still has an uncited story (even after I edited it) about McNair and the owner of the Kansas City Chiefs personally agreeing to let the new Houston club use the "Texans" nickname, which was formerly used by the Chiefs when they played in Dallas. It is actually more likely that individuals below the owners' pay-grade made the deal. Timothy Horrigan (talk) 01:12, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Beginning of Article

The term "American football" isn't an npov term, as it implies a non-American bias. Nobody within the United States uses the term "American football", the term used in the United States for the sport is "football". There was a weak, diluted and consensus towards keeping the term American football even though it's inaccurate and biased, so I figured omitting the term "football" altogether would be a compromise. Doc Quintana (talk) 14:47, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Omitting all mentions of "American football" from American football articles just makes the matter more confusing, not less. Americans do call their kind of football "American football" whenever there's a need to distinguish it from other types of football, for instance in the context of an international encyclopedia that discusses all sports known as "football". The term is totally neutral, and will be recognized by basically all American football fans.--Cúchullain ^t/c 15:14, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

For the interested, the main discussion that led to this is at Talk:Football#Naming_Standardization_In_Different_Codes.--Cúchullain ^t/c 15:34, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

I would like to see the proof for your claim because you are completely incorrect. Americans refer to Association football as soccer, not football. There should be a uniform standard for usage of the term throughout the encyclopedia. I am trying to respect the tenuous consensus on the Football talk page by omitting the term altogether when it is POV, but if this attempt can't be respected, i'll do what I have to do ensure that the encyclopedia remains unbiased towards any one football code. Doc Quintana (talk) 16:36, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

At talk:Football I gave three references in which Americans refer to American football as "American football"[1][2][3] Here are some American books that use it:[4][5][6] It also appears in the name of some football organizations past and present, such the American Football Coaches Association and the World League of American Football. It is abundantly clear that Americans use the term "American football" when there is a need to distinguish it.--Cúchullain ^t/c 17:31, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

And WP:IAR does not give you license to edit war against consensus.--Cúchullain ^t/c 17:33, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

The consensus isn't clear enough to call it a true consensus, so I don't see the point in it preventing the improvement of the encyclopedia as long as civility remains as it has here. I tried to respect it nonetheless by removing the term altogether, but if another compromise isn't promoted, i'll ignore it completely to help the encyclopedia. Doc Quintana (talk) 19:32, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Actually, the consensus is clear: there's no support for any major changes, so we default to the status quo. You should not make any more sweeping changes of this kind without clear community support.--Cúchullain ^t/c 20:04, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

There was no status quo, just look at NFL and FA articles now and the wording that was used, it varies from article to article at will without any reason; standardization was the whole point of the rfc and that goal failed miserably, so i'm just going to have to do it myself unless an MOS standardization for all football codes can be produced one way or another.