Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2011 July 7

July 7

Template:Match in progress

Template:Match in progress (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Wikipedia is not a news site or Live Feed there is no need for this template. It is clearly against Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not Warburton1368 (talk) 19:17, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

• Neutral comment I don't think the template is against policy, but the attitude of editors, who thinks this template gives them the legitimacy for live scoring. Sir Armbrust ^{Talk to me} _Contribs 20:08, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
• Comment Thats the problem with it it creates the impression of legitimacy for something that shouldn't be happening. To accept that it happens is wrong as it shouldn't and actively should be stopped. Warburton1368 (talk) 20:14, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Warburton1368 (talk) 20:14, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

• Firstly, this should be disqualified from speedy deletion as WP:NOT is specifically stated as a non-reason for speedy deletion.
• Secondly, it should be disqualified from speedy deletion as it is specified that if a page has survived a prior deletion discussion, it should not be speedy deleted. (This appeared on my talk page as notification of a speedy deletion)
• Pragmatic Keep. Ideally, this template would not be necessary. The same is true of all sorts of templates warning against bias, recentism, lack of references etc. Despite many attempts to persuade editors not to do so, many persist in updating matches before they are finished. Prior to this template, an informal convention had emerged of showing such matches in italics until the final whistle. This was obviously of no benefit to those unfamiliar with the convention: the template serves them better than misleading them into thinking that what they are reading is a result. This is explained in the documentation of the template. The matter has been previously discussed at least twice (1, 2) at WT:FOOTY. It is essentially a tool to avoid editwarring, and saves more responsible editors having to hover around the articles covering matches in progress for 105 minutes while they woulld rather be watching the match. Kevin McE (talk) 20:18, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
• Delete - We do not need templates to encourage people to go against policy. – PeeJay 20:23, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

There is no encouragement: read the documentation. But given that people do this without encouragement, how you do you suggest we deal with the situation? Kevin McE (talk) 21:05, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

• Comment If you take the opinion nothing will stop then it will always continue as it says in the intro its against policy for live updates although it dosent condone its existence encourages. Users should be politely warned its against policy and the update reverted as you would do with an issue on any other article. I dont want to badger anyone so will try not to comment again. Warburton1368 (talk) 21:16, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Users have been politely requested on numerous occasions to desist. Feel free to continue asking them, many of us have tried before... Kevin McE (talk) 21:35, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

• Link to previous discussion of withdrawn TfD for reference.--ClubOranje^T 00:41, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
• if kept rename to template:Current sport-inline, since this is the inline version of {{current sport}} ; it should not be called "match" since other sports aren't called "matches". 65.93.15.213 (talk) 05:57, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Template:Shades of unknown colors

Template:Shades of unknown colors (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template for fictional colors. Includes only one color. 68.230.254.207 (talk) 16:13, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

• Delete does nothing to aid in navigation between articles, which is the whole purpose of navboxes — Preceding signed comment added by Cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 21:01, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
• Delete no further commentCurb Chain (talk) 01:38, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Template:Catalan-Valencian speaking countries

Template:Catalan-Valencian speaking countries (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Apparently blank template, TfD rather than CSD as it appears to be in use? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 11:34, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

That's because Maurice27 (talk · contribs) blanked it. Just undo that and tell him not to blank pages in future. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 23:37, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

• Delete Maurice27 moved it, redirected, then blanked it; Template:Catalan-Valencian speaking regions is the targetCurb Chain (talk) 01:40, 8 July 2011 (UTC)