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:''The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's [[Help:Using talk pages|talk page]] or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]). No further edits should be made to this page.'' |
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The result was '''no consensus'''. This discussion did not attract a lot of attention, and I feel that most of the arguments were fairly weak. Therefore, I don't feel that it would be disruptive to renominate the article. However, since the two keep voters seemed amenable to a merger, I think that would be a better immediate way forward. [[User:Mark Arsten|Mark Arsten]] ([[User talk:Mark Arsten|talk]]) 07:27, 11 August 2012 (UTC) |
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*'''Comment''' This is from a recently-closed [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Homonegativity |AfD]], and seems relevant, {{talkquote|The result was '''speedy close'''. '''The [[Wikipedia:merge|article merger process]] for [[Wikipedia:duplicate articles|duplicate articles]] does not involve either AFD or the administrator deletion tool in any way or at any stage.''' Neither does turning an article into a redirect (or vice versa). This is a mis-use of AFD for something that ordinary editors can enact and discuss on talk pages without any need for administrator involvement or tools. AFD has quite enough traffic as it is, without wasting participant time and effort on things that don't even need a deletion tool at all and that editors can do for themselves. Also note that notability is not addressed solely with deletion nominations, and there are plenty of venues (such as appropriate WikiProjects) for seeking third opinions on disputed mergers without abusing AFD for that purpose. <small>[[User:Uncle G|Uncle G]] ([[User talk:Uncle G|talk]]) 13:48, 1 August 2012 (UTC)</small>}}[[User:Unscintillating|Unscintillating]] ([[User talk:Unscintillating|talk]]) 03:04, 5 August 2012 (UTC) |
*'''Comment''' This is from a recently-closed [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Homonegativity |AfD]], and seems relevant, {{talkquote|The result was '''speedy close'''. '''The [[Wikipedia:merge|article merger process]] for [[Wikipedia:duplicate articles|duplicate articles]] does not involve either AFD or the administrator deletion tool in any way or at any stage.''' Neither does turning an article into a redirect (or vice versa). This is a mis-use of AFD for something that ordinary editors can enact and discuss on talk pages without any need for administrator involvement or tools. AFD has quite enough traffic as it is, without wasting participant time and effort on things that don't even need a deletion tool at all and that editors can do for themselves. Also note that notability is not addressed solely with deletion nominations, and there are plenty of venues (such as appropriate WikiProjects) for seeking third opinions on disputed mergers without abusing AFD for that purpose. <small>[[User:Uncle G|Uncle G]] ([[User talk:Uncle G|talk]]) 13:48, 1 August 2012 (UTC)</small>}}[[User:Unscintillating|Unscintillating]] ([[User talk:Unscintillating|talk]]) 03:04, 5 August 2012 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep''' The bus service is described in more than one book. The worst case is that we'd merge into a section of a larger article such as [[University_Circle#Public_Transportation]]. Deletion is therefore not appropriate. [[User:Colonel Warden|Warden]] ([[User talk:Colonel Warden|talk]]) 07:58, 5 August 2012 (UTC) |
*'''Keep''' The bus service is described in more than one book. The worst case is that we'd merge into a section of a larger article such as [[University_Circle#Public_Transportation]]. Deletion is therefore not appropriate. [[User:Colonel Warden|Warden]] ([[User talk:Colonel Warden|talk]]) 07:58, 5 August 2012 (UTC) |
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**What books are those, because they're not referenced in the article.--[[User:GrapedApe|GrapedApe]] ([[User talk:GrapedApe|talk]]) 13:24, 5 August 2012 (UTC) |
**What books are those, because they're not referenced in the article.--[[User:GrapedApe|GrapedApe]] ([[User talk:GrapedApe|talk]]) 13:24, 5 August 2012 (UTC) |
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