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Ada Wong

Ada is mentioned on a first-name basis in BH1. My edit was about John Clemens' second name not being in the final version, but being in the demo version. Since you brought it up though, yes, Ada was mentioned by name in the file even in the demo (along with the original eleven Trevor's Notes that were also removed from the final version, and at that stage, "B.O.W." was also originally "B.H.W." - Biohazard Weapon). These changes were enacted by Yasuyuki Saga after the departure of scenario writer Kenichi Iwao in late '95. Her personality and occupation were not planned in the first game, aside from the fact that she was John Clemens' girlfriend. At the beginning of development for the second game (the stage known as "1.5"), an Umbrella researcher named Linda was created. However, she was renamed Ada Wong in order to draw a connection to the first game, with her Chinese surname added since no surname was written for her in the first game and her character design was half-Chinese. The character and her name were kept after 1.5 was scrapped, although her occupation and personality were completely altered. In the final version, she was a spy for Umbrella's rival company who infiltrated the Arklay Laboratory posing as a researcher and became Clemens' girlfriend in order to gain information. There was no retcon involved at any stage since the only changes occurred during production before the plot was complete. The addition of her previously non-existent surname in the second game is not a retcon. Project Umbrella (talk) 15:44, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

You need to write references, using either the original sources (not fansite retellings or rumors) or reliable English sources. And yes, there was retcon - in RE1 Ada wasn't a spy, originally (and she was a researcher, and she was even still a researcher in the first version of RE2). --Niemti (talk) 16:14, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

No retellings or rumors used and all information is directly from the games (English and Japanese, the latter taking precedence for obvious reasons) alongside direct contact with Kenichi Iwao (BH1 scenario writer), Isao Oishi (BH1/BH2 concept artist and 1.5 writer) and Ryoji Shimogama (BH1/BH2 artist). You also need to double-check your definition of retcon. A retcon is a change in previously established fact. Nothing is established when a game is in production and Ada was not a researcher in BH1 until the sequel said so, as Iwao never had any intention behind her at the time. She was equivalent to "Alma" in this file, nothing more than a girlfriend. Please stop trying to make up for a lack of research by writing off genuine sources that did it all for you simply because they aren't paid to do it. Project Umbrella (talk) 16:28, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

I meant "Ada began as Linda" claim. It's currently unsourced (and tagged). RE Wiki has no references for this too, other than an unsourced image. Did you read Wikipedia:No original research yet? --Niemti (talk) 16:34, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

She is named "Linda" (リンダ) in early concept art featured in the CAPCOM Design Works book, but in 1.5 itself, she is named Ada. Citing a download to a game is likely not permissible. In its Japanese script and files, her name is Ada (エイダ). The RE Wiki is also a garbage excuse for a source, I'm disappointed you use it. And please, if you're going to keep throwing around the "no original research" thing, at least start following it when you decide what constitutes a source. Already you seem to have a tendency to go along with absolutely anything despite a crippling lack of evidence beyond "they get paid" or "maybe they did this or that." Project Umbrella (talk) 16:43, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

It's perfectly okay to cite an artbook. Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources --Niemti (talk) 16:57, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

I didn't think otherwise. I did think it was common knowledge by now to anyone that looks (or knows where to look). Project Umbrella (talk) 17:21, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

And if you want to be actually useful, Chris Redfield needs a lot of work (Albert Wesker too). Resident Evil (video game) is also only so-so for the game's caliber (just compare with Resident Evil 2 or Resident Evil 4). --Niemti (talk) 17:03, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

I see correcting you isn't "useful" enough, haha. Personally unless I see something outright wrong, I couldn't care less about the overall content of the article here. The effort is better spent elsewhere. But I do see quite a few errors, which I'll resolve for you now. Project Umbrella (talk) 17:21, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

No? What a shame. --Niemti (talk) 17:30, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Corrected Wesker's article for you. Actually surprised at how comparatively empty it is. The RE Wiki may be quite a bit of nonsense but it's staggeringly more fleshed out. You'd probably be better off just copy-pasting from there as they did from here in the first place. Not one official source cited, either. Wow. Project Umbrella (talk) 17:51, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

It's empty because I didn't work much on it. No, really. I'm practically only user who works on RE characters for years now. In 2012 I brought Ada, Leon, Claire and Tyrant to GA, and Jill I would too, if not the people who just don't understand GA (long story). (Actually I even created Tyrant, Rebecca and Sheva.) --Niemti (talk) 19:32, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Last changes

Could you explain undo my changes in Spetsnaz article? --Rezonansowy (talk) 17:38, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Spetsnaz GRU this way. --Niemti (talk) 19:33, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for changing Rikimaru's pic to official artwork and removing the fan art that had been there for years.Razdower (talk) 16:54, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

GITS

A focused and clean discussion of the future of the article is underway, because you made comments on Ghost in the Shell I am notifying you for your input in the debate. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 03:53, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

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AN/I discussion

Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. ---The Old Jacobite_{The '45} 16:00, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

I am not sure what exactly was your point here because I do not edit in this area. However, you should never do bickering like that on the ANI. If you think there is a serious problem and want to press some kind of charges, please collect diffs on your user sub-page ("editor X edit war: diff, diff, diff") and let me look at this to check if there is actually any problem. However, if you do that, this is going to backfire because someone will do exactly the same about you. Do not shoot yourself in the leg. My very best wishes (talk) 13:01, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

A word of advice

You need to relax and remain civil at all times Niemti, I have tried my best to assist in your disputes, but when you respond in a hostile or abrasive way it makes me wonder why I even bother. Wikipedia is not perfect and idealism is one thing, but you shouldn't burn bridges or wage edit wars that will only serve to get you blocked. Even good changes will be reverted if you get blocked. Take your issues to DRN before you edit war, that way if a bunch of editors agree it will not be YOU who gets blocked for edit warring. Besides, by doing it that way other editors will start to think of you in a better light. Besides, I doubt you like fighting over these matters, trust other editors to see it your way and bring it to WP:DRN next time. Because if you edit war again, I will not come to your defense, but I will be at DRN when and if you chose to heed my advice. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 12:13, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

I don't think the problem is any "dispute" to be resolved, I believe the problem is rather how to reinstate all these countless whimsically reverted good edits everywhere in the film/series articles. That's the problem. --Niemti (talk) 16:01, 15 May 2013 (UTC)