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===/r/MensRights=== |
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Reddit's "[[Men's rights movement|men's rights]]" sub-forum was included in a list of twelve websites in the spring 2012 issue of the [[Southern Poverty Law Center|Southern Poverty Law Center's]] ''Intelligence Report''. It collectively described the 12 "[[Misogyny]]" (hatred or dislike of women or girls) groups listed as "''woman-hating sites''" which were "''dedicated to savaging feminists in particular and women, very typically American women, in general''" and that almost all were "''thick with misogynistic attacks that can be astounding for the guttural hatred they express''". |
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The report also specifically said that "Reddit: Mens Rights" subreddit propagates conspiracy theories about feminism, citing moderator (and co-founder) Kloo2yoo as writing there is “undeniable proof” of an international feminist conspiracy aimed at demonizing men involving the Obama Administration and the United Nations. It also said that the subreddit demonstrates anger towards programs that help women.<ref>[http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2012/spring/misogyny-the-sites Misogyny: The Sites], SPLC, Spring 2012</ref><ref>[http://www.dailydot.com/news/reddit-mensrights-misogynistic-splc/ Southern Poverty Law Center calls Reddit section misogynistic] by Kevin Collier, The Daily Dot, March 9 2012</ref> |
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⚫ | The widespread rumors that the subreddit (and the 11 others) had been named a [[hate group]] led [[Mark Potok]] (the Intelligence Report's editor) to claim in an interview that SPLC had not [[List of organizations designated by the Southern Poverty Law Center as hate groups|listed it as a hate group]], saying "''We wrote about the subreddit Mens Rights, but we did not list it as a hate group''" and expressing doubt that he might include the community on hate group lists, noting that "''it's a diverse group, which certainly does include some misogynists—but I don't think that's [its basic] purpose.''"<ref>[http://www.dailydot.com/news/reddit-mens-rights-hate-group-splc/ Why Reddit's r/MensRights is not a hate group] by Kevin Morris, The Daily Dot, March 28, 2012</ref> |
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⚫ | In May, the SPLC published a statement about the reactions to their report, saying it "''provoked a tremendous response among men’s rights activists (MRAs) and their sympathizers.''"<ref>[http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/05/15/intelligence-report-article-provokes-outrage-among-mens-rights-activists/ Intelligence Report Article Provokes Fury Among Men’s Rights Activists] by Arthur Goldwag, SPLC, May 15, 2012</ref> |
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In April 2013, the sub page was threatened with a shutdown by the Reddit admins for releasing information about a supposed blogger of feminist issues who said some controversial things about her school's admission practices. <ref>[http://manboobz.com/2013/04/19/drama-mens-rights-reddit-threatened-with-shutdown-after-two-of-its-mods-are-caught-helping-doxers/ Men’s Rights Reddit threatened with shutdown after two of its mods are caught helping doxers] by David Futrelle, Manboobz, April 19, 2013</ref> <ref>[http://www.dailydot.com/crime/arianna-pattek-conspiracy-mra-mens-rights-reddit/ Men's rights activists bombard feminist with death threats—and it's the wrong woman], The daily dot, April 22, 2013</ref> |
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⚫ | Later on it was discovered that they had identified the wrong woman, and had been sending death and rape{{fact}} threats to her school and employment. Georgetown University confirmed that she was not the same person as the blog's author after receiving threatening messages.<ref>[http://manboobz.com/2013/04/19/lazy-libel-a-voice-for-men-doxes-an-alleged-misandrist-blogger-and-ids-the-wrong-woman/ Lazy Libel: A Voice for Men “doxes” an alleged misandrist blogger — and ID’s the wrong woman], Manboobz, April 19, 2013</ref> <ref>[http://www.dailydot.com/crime/arianna-pattek-conspiracy-mra-mens-rights-reddit/ Men's rights activists bombard feminist with death threats—and it's the wrong woman] by Aja Romano, The daily dot, April 22, 2013</ref> |
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===/r/findbostonbombers=== |
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Revision as of 20:57, 26 August 2013
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The social news site Reddit has occasionally been the topic of controversy due to the presence of communities on the site (known as subreddits) devoted to explicit material. Yishan Wong, the site's CEO, has stated that "We stand for free speech. This means we are not going to ban distasteful subreddits. We will not ban legal content even if we find it odious or if we personally condemn it."[1]
The subreddit "/r/jailbait" was one of the most prominent subreddits on the site before it was closed down in October 2011 following a report by CNN.[2] The controversy surrounding /r/Creepshots a year after /r/jailbait's closure prompted a Gawker exposé of one of the subreddit's moderators by Adrian Chen, which revealed the real-life identify of the user behind the account. This started discussion in the media about the ethics of anonymity and outing on the Internet.[3]
Banned subreddits
/r/jailbait
Reddit's staff was initially opposed the addition of obscene material to the site, but they eventually became more lenient when prolific moderators such as the user "violentacrez" proved capable of identifying and removing illegal content at a time when they were not sufficiently staffed to take on the task.[3] Communities devoted to explicit material saw rising popularity, with the /r/jailbait subreddit (featuring provocative shots of teenagers) being chosen "subreddit of the year" by a user poll in 2008 and at one point making "jailbait" the second most common search term for the site.[3] Erik Martin, general manager of Reddit, defended the jailbait subreddit by saying that such controversial pages were a consequence of allowing free speech on the site.[4]
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The jailbait subreddit came to wider attention outside Reddit when Anderson Cooper of CNN devoted a segment of his program to condemning the subreddit and criticizing Reddit for hosting it.[5] Initially this caused a spike in Internet traffic to the subreddit, causing the page to peak at 1.73 million views on the day of the report.[6] Following these news reports, a thread was created in the community by a Reddit user which prompted dozens of requests for nude photos of a minor. Other Reddit users drew attention to this discussion and the /r/jailbait section was subsequently closed by administrators on October 10, 2011.[7] Critics such as /r/jailbait's creator disputed claims that this thread was the basis of the decision, instead claiming it was an excuse to close down a controversial subreddit due to recent negative media coverage.[2] Others claimed that the thread believed to have prompted the closure was created by members of the Something Awful forum in an attempt to get the section shut down, rather than the regulars of the forum.[8]
Following the closure of /r/jailbait, The Daily Dot declared violentacrez, the community's creator, "The Most Important Person on Reddit in 2011," and called the /r/jailbait controversy "the first major challenge to the site’s voluntary doctrine of absolute free speech."[9]
/r/Creepshots
A year after the closure of the jailbait subreddit, a Reddit community called "/r/Creepshots" drew controversy in the press for hosting sexualized images of women without their knowledge.[10] In the wake of this media attention, violentacrez was added to /r/Creepshots as a moderator,[11] and reports emerged that Adrian Chen was planning an exposé that would reveal the real-life identity of this user, who moderated dozens of controversial subreddits as well as a few hundred general-interest communities. Several major subreddits banned links to Gawker in response to the impending exposé and the violentacrez account was deleted.[12][13][14] Moderators defended their decisions to block the site from these sections of Reddit on the basis that the impending report was "doxxing" (a term for exposing the identity of a pseudonymous redditor), and that such exposure threatened the site's structural integrity.[14]
Gawker exposé
Chen published the piece on October 12, revealing that the operator of the violentacrez account was a middle-aged programmer from Texas named Michael Brutsch.[3] Within a day of the article being published, Brutsch's position was terminated by his employer and the link to the exposé was briefly banned from Reddit.[15][16] He stated on Reddit after the article was published that he has received numerous death threats.[17]
Reddit CEO Yishan Wong defended the content Brutsch contributed to the site as free speech and criticized efforts to ban the Gawker link on the same basis.[18] Wong stated that the staff had considered a site-wide ban on the link, but rejected this idea for fear it would create a negative impression of the site without getting results.[19] Brutsch later briefly returned to Reddit on a different account and criticized what he stated were numerous factual inaccuracies in the Gawker exposé.[20]
A week after the exposé, Brutsch held an interview with CNN that aired on Anderson Cooper 360. In the interview with journalist Drew Griffin, Brutsch was apologetic about his activity on Reddit. He explained that he was most fond of the appreciation he got from other redditors, and that Reddit helped him relieve stress. Brutsch also described the support he had from administrators, stating that he had received an award for his contributions. Reddit noted that the award was for winning a community vote for "Worst Subreddit", and stated that they regretted sending it as well as claiming the violentacrez account had been banned on several occasions.[21][22][23] Brutsch subsequently noted on reddit that he regretted doing the interview and criticized the accuracy of the statement Reddit gave to CNN.[24]
Ethics of outing
Gawker's outing of Brutsch as violentacrez led to contentious discussion about privacy and anonymity on the Internet.[25] Such discussions included claims that outing, or "doxxing", was necessary to draw attention to objectionable content so it could be removed and claims that it impedes the ability for people to exercise their right to legal free speech online due to fear of public retribution.[26][27]
Sady Doyle, writing in The Guardian, compared it to the outing of the alleged blackmailer of Amanda Todd and suggested that such outings may be justified, but that they may also unduly focus attention on individuals without confronting the underlying problems by engaging in "sensationalism" at the expense of cultural reform.[28] In PC Magazine, Damon Poeter stated that, while he has defended protecting anonymity on the Internet, he still supported Brutsch being outed because he felt the various subreddits he contributed to as violentacrez were serious invasions of privacy, regardless of legality, and that it was therefore justifiable to reveal his personal details.[27] Other commentators expressed similar views about double-standards from those objecting to Brutsch's outing as a violation of his privacy.[29][30]
The public outpouring of hostility towards Brutsch following the exposé prompted commentators such as Danah Boyd of Wired and Michelle Star of CNET to question the morality of outing as a way to enforce societal standards online.[31][32] Several commentators have expressed concern that the public shaming of Brutsch to serve as an example to others is legitimizing online vigilantism and exposing individuals such as Brutsch to mass retribution.[31][32][33][34]
/r/niggers
In July 2013, the subreddit "/r/niggers" was banned from reddit for engaging in vote manipulation, incitements of violence and disrupting other communities with racist content. Reddit general manager Erik Martin noted that the subforum was given multiple chances to comply with site rules, noting that "users can tell from the amount of warnings we extended to a subreddit as clearly awful as r/niggers that we go into the decision to ban subreddits with a lot of scrutiny."[35]
Controversial subreddits
/r/MensRights
Reddit's "men's rights" sub-forum was included in a list of twelve websites in the spring 2012 issue of the Southern Poverty Law Center's Intelligence Report. It collectively described the 12 "Misogyny" (hatred or dislike of women or girls) groups listed as "woman-hating sites" which were "dedicated to savaging feminists in particular and women, very typically American women, in general" and that almost all were "thick with misogynistic attacks that can be astounding for the guttural hatred they express".
The report also specifically said that "Reddit: Mens Rights" subreddit propagates conspiracy theories about feminism, citing moderator (and co-founder) Kloo2yoo as writing there is “undeniable proof” of an international feminist conspiracy aimed at demonizing men involving the Obama Administration and the United Nations. It also said that the subreddit demonstrates anger towards programs that help women.[36][37]
The widespread rumors that the subreddit (and the 11 others) had been named a hate group led Mark Potok (the Intelligence Report's editor) to claim in an interview that SPLC had not listed it as a hate group, saying "We wrote about the subreddit Mens Rights, but we did not list it as a hate group" and expressing doubt that he might include the community on hate group lists, noting that "it's a diverse group, which certainly does include some misogynists—but I don't think that's [its basic] purpose."[38]
In May, the SPLC published a statement about the reactions to their report, saying it "provoked a tremendous response among men’s rights activists (MRAs) and their sympathizers."[39]
Doxxing
In April 2013, the sub page was threatened with a shutdown by the Reddit admins for releasing information about a supposed blogger of feminist issues who said some controversial things about her school's admission practices. [40] [41]
Later on it was discovered that they had identified the wrong woman, and had been sending death and rape[citation needed] threats to her school and employment. Georgetown University confirmed that she was not the same person as the blog's author after receiving threatening messages.[42] [43]
/r/findbostonbombers
Following the 2013 Boston Marathon bombings, members of subreddit /r/findbostonbombers wrongly identified a number of people as suspects, including a 17-year-old track athlete and a 22-year-old Brown University student missing since March.[44] A body reported to be that of the missing Brown student misidentified as a Boston bomber suspect was found in Rhode Island's Providence River on April 25, 2013 as reported by the Rhode Island Health Department. The cause of death is under investigation.[45][46]
Reddit general manager Erik Martin later issued an apology for this behavior, criticizing the "online witch hunts and dangerous speculation" that took place in these investigation-oriented communities.[47]
Free speech rationale
In accordance with the site's policies on free speech, Reddit does not ban communities solely for featuring controversial content. Reddit's general manager Erik Martin noted that "having to stomach occasional troll reddits like /r/picsofdeadkids or morally questionable reddits like /r/jailbait are part of the price of free speech on a site like this,” and that it is not Reddit’s place to censor its users.[48] The site's CEO, Yishan Wong, has stated that distasteful subreddits won't be banned because reddit as a platform should serve the ideals of free speech.[49] Critics of this position have argued that reddit has not been consistent in following its free speech philosophy.[50][51]
See also
References
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- ^ a b c d Chen, Adrian (12 October 2012). "Unmasking Reddit's Violentacrez, The Biggest Troll on the Web". Gawker. Retrieved 28 October 2012.
- ^ Alfonso III, Fernando (11 August 2011). "A free-speech haven wrestles with violent images". The Daily Dot. Retrieved 28 October 2012.
- ^ Morris, Kevin (3 October 2011). "Anderson Cooper boosts visibility of teen-girl pics". The Daily Dot. Archived from the original on 6 October 2011. Retrieved 28 October 2012.
- ^ "Traffic statistics for /r/jailbait". Reddit. Retrieved 28 October 2012.
- ^ Morris, Kevin (11 October 2011). "Reddit shuts down r/jailbait". The Daily Dot. Retrieved 28 October 2012.
- ^ Morris, Kevin (13 October 2011). "Did SomethingAwful raid jailbait forum?". The Daily Dot. Retrieved 28 October 2012.
- ^ Morris, Kevin (16 December 2011). "The 10 most important people on Reddit in 2011". The Daily Dot. Retrieved 28 October 2012.
- ^ Gray, Justin (9/26/2012). "Teacher allegedly posts pictures of students on 'CreepShot' website". Fox Atlanta. Retrieved 5/3/13.
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- ^ Alfonso III, Fernando (11 October 2012). "Redditors declare war on Gawker Media". The Daily Dot. Retrieved 28 October 2012.
- ^ Roy, Jessica (11 October 2012). "Reddit Readies for Brewing 'Inter-Website War'; Major Subreddits Ban Links to Gawker Media". BetaBeat. Retrieved 28 October 2012.
- ^ a b Morris, Kevin (12 October 2012). "Clearing up rumors and hearsay as the Internet eagerly awaits the Gawker Reddit story". The Daily Dot. Retrieved 28 October 2012.
- ^ Alfonso III, Fernando (15 October 2012). "Reddit's most notorious troll loses job after Gawker profile". The Daily Dot. Retrieved 29 October 2012.
- ^ "Violentacrez Fired: Michael Brutsch Loses Job After Reddit Troll Identity Exposed By Gawker". The Huffington Post. 15 October 2012. Retrieved 29 October 2012.
- ^ Levy, Megan (16 October 2012). "Internet troll sacked from job after identity revealed". The Sydney Morning Herald. Retrieved 29 October 2012.
- ^ "Reddit CEO defends free speech – even for creeps like Violentacrez". Fox News. 17 October 2012. Retrieved 30 October 2012.
- ^ Albanesius, Chloe (17 October 2012). "Reddit CEO Defends Free Speech, Talks Violentacrez Scandal". PC Magazine. Retrieved 30 October 2012.
- ^ Roy, Jessica (15 October 2012). "Violentacrez Takes to Reddit to Solicit Sympathy, PayPal Donations". BeatBeat. Retrieved 30 October 2012.
- ^ Alfonso III, Fernando (18 October 2012). "Infamous Reddit troll Violentacrez apologizes on CNN". The Daily Dot. Retrieved 30 October 2012.
- ^ Fitzpatrick, David (19 October 2012). "Man behind 'Jailbait' posts exposed, loses job". CNN. Retrieved 30 October 2012.
- ^ Bates, Daniel (18 October 2012). "'It helped me unwind from work': Troll behind 'Creepshot' forum where users post sexual images of unsuspecting girls gives first interview since being unmasked". The Daily Mail. Retrieved 30 October 2012.
- ^ Roy, Jessica (19 October 2012). "Violentacrez Admits Doing CNN Interview Was a 'Huge Mistake'". BetaBeat. Retrieved 30 October 2012.
- ^ Hill, Kashmir (15 October 2012). "Why The Internet Cool Kids Think Gawker Outing Reddit's Violentacrez Is The 'Best Story About The Web' This Year". Forbes. Retrieved 31 October 2012.
- ^ Ngak, Chenda (17 October 2012). "Reddit, Gawker clash raises questions over inappropriate content and privacy". CBS News. Retrieved 31 October 2012.
- ^ a b Poeter, Damon (15 October 2012). "Shed No Tears for Violentacrez". PC Magazine. Retrieved 31 October 2012.
- ^ Doyle, Sady (17 October 2012). "Outing online sexual predators is a sensationalist stopgap". The Guardian. Retrieved 31 October 2012.
- ^ Henderson, William (15 October 2012). "Gawker's unmasking of Reddit troll Violentacrez uncovers new layers of internet hypocrisy". The Daily Telegraph. Retrieved 31 October 2012.
- ^ Beschizza, Rob (16 October 2012). "Violentacrez exposé should be taken on its own merits". Boing Boing. Retrieved 31 October 2012.
- ^ a b Boyd, Danah (29 October 2012). "Truth, Lies, and 'Doxxing': The Real Moral of the Gawker/Reddit Story". Wired. Retrieved 1 November 2012.
- ^ a b Starr, Michelle (17 October 2012). "Gawker, Reddit's Violentacrez and the internet vigilantes". CNET. Retrieved 1 November 2012.
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- ^ Does Anything Go? The Rise and Fall of a Racist Corner of Reddit, The Atlantic, July 16 2013
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- ^ Southern Poverty Law Center calls Reddit section misogynistic by Kevin Collier, The Daily Dot, March 9 2012
- ^ Why Reddit's r/MensRights is not a hate group by Kevin Morris, The Daily Dot, March 28, 2012
- ^ Intelligence Report Article Provokes Fury Among Men’s Rights Activists by Arthur Goldwag, SPLC, May 15, 2012
- ^ Men’s Rights Reddit threatened with shutdown after two of its mods are caught helping doxers by David Futrelle, Manboobz, April 19, 2013
- ^ Men's rights activists bombard feminist with death threats—and it's the wrong woman, The daily dot, April 22, 2013
- ^ Lazy Libel: A Voice for Men “doxes” an alleged misandrist blogger — and ID’s the wrong woman, Manboobz, April 19, 2013
- ^ Men's rights activists bombard feminist with death threats—and it's the wrong woman by Aja Romano, The daily dot, April 22, 2013
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- ^ "Missing Student at Brown is Found Dead". April 25, 2013.
- ^ "Body in river that of Brown student, police say". April 25, 2013.
- ^ Martin, Erik. "Reflections on the Recent Boston Crisis". Reddit.com. Retrieved 5/3/13.
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