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"Alleviating"

I know you're better at alleviate this stuff ([1])—Then from your past edits you are clearly WP:INCOMPETENT and have no place to edit climatology normals. And quit pretending you aren't following me: I had made my last addition not 23 hours earlier, independent of your actions. You also must be deluded to STILL think the simplistic U.S.–Canadian arithmetic mean computation of daily means is useful information, and I am not the only one to criticise that method. "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee ^welcome!" 18:55, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oslo is one of the city that I edited a while ago and you're the one following every page since this earlier March, then I learned what was problem compare to yours and fixed it. The temperatures of "mean" could be anything, numbers divided by each factors they have, and that's the one I'm using through the right source beside of high/lows. Seems like you're not helping with your competence to others, but simply decline them to think everything is justified on your criteria. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.191.173.190 (talk • contribs) (75.191.173.190 (talk) 19:17, 16 March 2014 (UTC))[reply]

You can continue wreaking havoc on my talk page. Per WP:TPG, continuing to do so will only lead to your block. Also, ignoring me is not going to help your case at all. Rather, it will make it clearer that you are evading all attempts at discussion. "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee ^welcome!" 20:39, 22 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You're the one who ignored me to reverted your talk page and I'm doing nothing bad here. Once again don't disrupt me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.191.173.190 (talk • contribs) (75.191.173.190 (talk) 20:41, 22 March 2014 (UTC))[reply]

WP:NOTTHEM. You will be reported. Have fun doing something else for several months. And you are so intent on reverting me you caused even more collateral damage again! "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee ^welcome!" 20:45, 22 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Report whatever you want now. After negotiated message in your talk page, I didn't mistakenly vandalized of your datas of Certain step or being out of the rule severely. So make sure that, you're not unreasonably decline others who have the idea, even I tried in better way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.191.173.190 (talk • contribs) (75.191.173.190 (talk) 20:51, 22 March 2014 (UTC))[reply]

I have already brought forth my reasoning; you have not. And your total blindness to the collateral damage you have wrought is not trying it in a better way. "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee ^welcome!" 20:54, 22 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You're just basically pushing me out of this site with using dexterous of your skills. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.191.173.190 (talk • contribs) (75.191.173.190 (talk) 21:07, 22 March 2014 (UTC)) (75.191.173.190 (talk) 20:56, 22 March 2014 (UTC))[reply]

Allegation without evidence = personal attack. U.S. climate normals is only a small corner of this encyclopaedia—you must know that. "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee ^welcome!" 20:58, 22 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like you're very perfect to never give personal attack to others Taipei and being sarcastic to me make you feel better? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.191.173.190 (talk • contribs) (75.191.173.190 (talk) 21:01, 22 March 2014 (UTC))[reply]

You're wasting your own time. Discuss the content, not the user. In any case, thank you very much for providing me more fodder ammunition—you are shooting yourself in the foot, indeed. "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee ^welcome!" 21:03, 22 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"You should be blocked." like when you said to me exactly same. Even you're sacrificed over this site longer in time than me generally. Okay, keep bragging about how you're talented editing tools and ignoring others. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.191.173.190 (talk • contribs) (75.191.173.190 (talk) 21:37, 22 March 2014 (UTC))[reply]

Last time I checked, your post on my talk page neither said anything new nor indicated you were willing to take this in a new direction. And, per Rule #2 on my talk: If I post on your talk page, please reply there. However, if you move the dialogue here, it will continue here.. Many users on here adopt that convention, and I made it long before I encountered you. How vain!

BTW, I spend more time on here because I have several orders of magnitude more pages on my Watchlist (I can paste it here, if you want!) than the number of unique pages you have EVER edited, not because some IP has a mad intention to edit war indefinitely, unlike I. "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee ^welcome!" 21:10, 22 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't like become complexible this conversation, give me what did I do exactly WRONG beside of your comment of "Useless" because I added mean temperatures. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.191.173.190 (talk • contribs) (75.191.173.190 (talk) 21:12, 22 March 2014 (UTC))[reply]

Most of these places had no mean temperatures until IPs, not limited to you yourself, added them in. Therefore the status quo for said places is to have no mean temperatures. Per WP:BRD, your change is the "bold" (more like foolhardy) one. I am the reverter, and have offered discussion. You have refused each offer every time, instead taking each and every opportunity to lampoon me. How simple is that? "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee ^welcome!" 21:18, 22 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Can you give me any Wikipedia policies that said NO MEAN TEMPERATURES ALLOWED IN WEATHERBOX even I'm using the official data? If they refused to be appear mean temperatures, why it has made? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.191.173.190 (talk • contribs) (75.191.173.190 (talk) 21:25, 22 March 2014 (UTC))[reply]

(+)Additionally please don't say Template:Weatherbox sample is totally false because it is simply described as an arithmatic. I know what I'm doing and asked you politely before. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.191.173.190 (talk • contribs) (75.191.173.190 (talk) 21:34, 22 March 2014 (UTC))[reply]

March 2014

I've blocked you again for continuing to revert to your preferred version of the weatherboxes, despite having been blocked for making the same edits four days ago, and despite being warned that continuing to revert after the block expired would result in a longer block. This block is for one week - subsequent blocks will be for longer still. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 07:09, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mr. Stradivarius, is that because you consider my edits of "Recover the previous data" as exact same thing as reverted? Okay, then I can't touch anything from the weatherbox now right? Are you tacitly agreeing to inclining with Lieutenant of Melkor? Despite you're the administrator and should be fair. If I misunderstood please give me some reasons why can't I even do with it, but you allowed to let Lieutenant of Melkor edit and erase my data, still. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.191.173.190 (talk • contribs) (75.191.173.190 (talk) 07:14, 26 March 2014 (UTC))[reply]

This makes it clear you did not bother to check out the new, albeit slow-to-load, NOWData interface, which is in line with the .TXT files I have been using for snowfall day normals, which NOWData no longer provides to the desired precision. Until you can learn to be careful, and not err the same way twice (or even more)... "My master, Annatar the Great, bids thee ^welcome!" 07:17, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

(http://www.nws.noaa.gov/climate/xmacis.php?wfo=phi) Does the this link expired or something what? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.191.173.190 (talk • contribs) (75.191.173.190 (talk) 07:21, 26 March 2014 (UTC))[reply]

Yes, I regard your edits as reverts. From Wikipedia:Reverting: A reversion is an edit, or part of an edit, that completely reverses a prior edit, restoring at least part of an article to what it was before the prior edit. The typical way to effect a reversion is to use the "undo" button in the article's history page, but it isn't any less of a reversion if one simply types in the previous text. This edit from 22 March and this edit from today are almost identical, for example. It doesn't matter whether you pressed undo or not, or whether the edit summary is different. And you are missing one important thing: Lieutenant of Melkor's reversions are in line with the consensus view among different Wikipedia editors, as can be seen from the ANI discussion I linked to above. Reverting without first making sure you have a consensus for your edits is disruptive, and will result in further blocks. A good place to start a discussion about this would be Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Meteorology, but you will need to wait until your block expires before you can post there. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 07:36, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not even surprised anymore who talked like this in front of you. [really?] that's kinda more than a personal attack right? If you want to talk about the consensus, that was about a half-month ago and I'm not issuing those listed discussions(different access, unsourced while where you edit the page, leave it only (1981-2010) etc.)→today that you gave me blocked. Also I want you to focus that the opponent has also edited after released. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.191.173.190 (talk • contribs) (75.191.173.190 (talk) 07:51, 26 March 2014 (UTC))[reply]

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 == March 2014 ==
-<div class="user-block" style="min-height: 40px"> [[Image:Stop x nuvola with clock.svg|40px|left|alt=Stop icon with clock]] You have been '''[[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]]''' from editing for a period of '''72 hours''' for [[WP:EW|edit warring]] across multiple pages.  Once the block has expired, you are welcome to [[Wikipedia:Five pillars|make useful contributions]]. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may [[Wikipedia:Appealing a block|appeal this block]] by adding the following text below this notice: <!-- Copy the text as it appears on your page, not as it appears in this edit area. Do not include the "tlx|" code. -->{{tlx|unblock|2=reason=''Your reason here &#126;&#126;&#126;&#126;''}}. However, you should read the [[Wikipedia:Guide to appealing blocks|guide to appealing blocks]] first. &nbsp;— '''''[[User:Mr. Stradivarius|<span style="color: #194D00; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Mr. Stradivarius</span>]]''''' <sup>[[User talk:Mr. Stradivarius|♪ talk ♪]]</sup> 21:41, 22 March 2014 (UTC)</div><!-- Template:uw-block -->
-:''If this is a [[Network address translation|shared IP address]], and you did not make the edits, consider [[Wikipedia:Why create an account?|creating an account]] for yourself so you can avoid further irrelevant notices.''<!-- Template:Shared IP advice -->
-{{unblock reviewed | Edit warring? The pages were stayed well, actually Lieutenant of Melkor started this time first. [[Special:Contributions/75.191.173.190|75.191.173.190]] ([[User talk:75.191.173.190#top|talk]]) 21:48, 22 March 2014 (UTC)|decline=I am declining your unblock request because it does not address the reason for your block, or because it is inadequate for other reasons. To be unblocked, you must convince the reviewing administrator(s) that
-*the block is not necessary to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia, <u>or</u>
-*the block is no longer necessary because you
-*#understand what you have been blocked for,
-*#will not continue to cause damage or disruption, and
-*#will make useful contributions instead.
-Please read the [[Wikipedia:Guide to appealing blocks|guide to appealing blocks]] for more information. [[User:Jpgordon|--jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon|::==( o )]]</small></sup> 21:50, 22 March 2014 (UTC)}}
-{{unblock reviewed | 1=I was providing mean temperature of the weatherbox then Lieutenant of Melkor was keep deleting what I have done and it wasn't vandalism at all. He was also keep reverting over and over and we have to talk with this. It is unnecessary to block only me because I wasn't only edit warring and didn't triggered first. If this all Edit Warring is about his/her talk page, I UNDERSTAND AND WILL NOT CONTINUE TO CAUSE DAMAGE OR DISRUPTION AND WILL MAKE USEFUL CONTRIBUTIONS INSTEAD. 75.191.173.190 (talk) 21:57, 22 March 2014 (UTC) | accept=You were edit warring, which justifies a block. However, I raised with the blocking administrator the question of why your block was three times as long as that on the other editor, and the blocking admin agreed to reduce the length of the block to 24 hours. (See below.) That 24 hour block has now expired. <small>''The editor who uses the pseudonym''</small> "[[User:JamesBWatson|JamesBWatson]]" ([[User talk:JamesBWatson#top|talk]]) 07:31, 24 March 2014 (UTC)}}
-When you are involved in an edit war, it really doesn't matter who started it, it takes at least two people to continue it. You need to recognize what has happened and stop, even if that means leaving the "wrong" version in place. Editing changes can be addressed later as there is no ''final'' version of a Wikipedia article. It seems like you were the target of a personal attack but if that is occurring, you should report it, not get into an edit war. You've both been blocked and, hopefully, you won't battle again in the future. <font face="Rage Italic" size="4" color="#800080">[[User:Liz|'''''L'''''iz]]</font> <sup><font face="Times New Roman" color="#006400">[[Special:Contributions/Liz|'''''Read!''''']] [[User talk:Liz|'''''Talk!''''']]</font></sup> 23:15, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
-:Thanks for your considerance. I want to know what makes my edit warring behavior penalized equals to 72 hours of blocking, but Lieutenant of Melkor received only 24 hours of blocking if Mr. Stradivarius can explain this to me. I hope it's not because I'm the IP and he/she is the signed member. {{unsigned|75.191.173.190}} ([[Special:Contributions/75.191.173.190|75.191.173.190]] ([[User talk:75.191.173.190#top|talk]]) 03:28, 23 March 2014 (UTC))
-::Sorry, I should have explained this when I first placed the block. I made your block longer than [[User:Lieutenant of Melkor|Lieutenant of Melkor]]'s because I thought that your conduct was the primary reason for the dispute. From the [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive831#IP vandalising climate data for months|administrators' noticeboard/incidents thread]] where I first became aware of this, it is clear that multiple editors object to your edits, not just Lieutenant. Also, in the past, you have been reverted by other editors, for example [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Honolulu&diff=598193339&oldid=598193009 here] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:New_York_City_weatherbox&diff=598808849&oldid=598806081 here]. However, it looks like I made a mistake when reading the page history of [[Template:Phoenix weatherbox]] this morning - I was under the impression that you had been edit warring with multiple editors today, but when I look again at the histories of the pages you have edited today, I see it was only you and Lieutenant that were reverting each other. Because of this slip of judgement on my part, I am going to reduce your block to 24 hours to be in line with Lieutenant's block. However, please don't be under any illusions - if you continue reverting without discussing your edits after the block expires, I will block you again, and this time it will be for longer. Because multiple editors object to your edits, the onus is on you to find consensus for them. As Lieutenant's reverts appear to be in line with the consensus view, there is no such onus on him, although that does not excuse his edit warring. — '''''[[User:Mr. Stradivarius|<span style="color: #194D00; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Mr. Stradivarius</span>]]''''' <sup>[[User talk:Mr. Stradivarius|♪ talk ♪]]</sup> 12:27, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
-:::These two edits [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Honolulu&diff=598193339&oldid=598193009 here] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:New_York_City_weatherbox&diff=598808849&oldid=598806081 here] are not having problem anymore, I assume the reason why the other users rejected me was mainly because of deleting the weather stations. {{unsigned|75.191.173.190}} ([[Special:Contributions/75.191.173.190|75.191.173.190]] ([[User talk:75.191.173.190#top|talk]]) 07:02, 26 March 2014 (UTC))
-[[Image:Ambox warning pn.svg|25px|alt=|link=]] Please stop adding [[Wikipedia:Citing sources|unsourced]] content, as you did to [[:Template:Philadelphia weatherbox]]. This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on [[Wikipedia:Verifiability|verifiability]]. If you continue to do so, you may be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing Wikipedia. <!-- Template:uw-unsourced3 --> "<span style="font-family:Buxton Sketch; color:FireBrick">My master, [[Special:Contributions/Lieutenant of Melkor|<FONT COLOR="#FFFF00">Annatar the Great</FONT>]], bids thee <sup>[[User talk:Lieutenant of Melkor|welcome!]]</sup></span>" 06:50, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
-:''If this is a [[Network address translation|shared IP address]], and you did not make the edits, consider [[Wikipedia:Why create an account?|creating an account]] for yourself so you can avoid further irrelevant notices.''<!-- Template:Shared IP advice -->
-<div class="user-block" style="min-height: 40px"> [[Image:Stop x nuvola with clock.svg|40px|left|alt=Stop icon with clock]] You have been '''[[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]]''' from editing for a period of '''1 week''' for continuing to [[WP:EW|edit war]] after your previous block expired.  Once the block has expired, you are welcome to [[Wikipedia:Five pillars|make useful contributions]]. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may [[Wikipedia:Appealing a block|appeal this block]] by adding the following text below this notice: <!-- Copy the text as it appears on your page, not as it appears in this edit area. Do not include the "tlx|" code. -->{{tlx|unblock|2=reason=''Your reason here &#126;&#126;&#126;&#126;''}}. However, you should read the [[Wikipedia:Guide to appealing blocks|guide to appealing blocks]] first. &nbsp;— '''''[[User:Mr. Stradivarius|<span style="color: #194D00; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Mr. Stradivarius</span>]]''''' <sup>[[User talk:Mr. Stradivarius|♪ talk ♪]]</sup> 07:06, 26 March 2014 (UTC)</div><!-- Template:uw-block -->
-:''If this is a [[Network address translation|shared IP address]], and you did not make the edits, consider [[Wikipedia:Why create an account?|creating an account]] for yourself so you can avoid further irrelevant notices.''<!-- Template:Shared IP advice -->
 I've blocked you again for continuing to revert to your preferred version of the weatherboxes, despite having been blocked for making the same edits four days ago, and despite being warned that continuing to revert after the block expired would result in a longer block. This block is for one week - subsequent blocks will be for longer still. — '''''[[User:Mr. Stradivarius|<span style="color: #194D00; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Mr. Stradivarius</span>]]''''' <sup>[[User talk:Mr. Stradivarius|♪ talk ♪]]</sup> 07:09, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
 :Hi Mr. Stradivarius, is that because you consider my '''edits''' of "Recover the previous data" as exact same thing as '''reverted'''? Okay, then I can't touch anything from the weatherbox now right? Are you tacitly agreeing to inclining with Lieutenant of Melkor? Despite you're the administrator and should be fair. If I misunderstood please give me some reasons why can't I even do with it, but you allowed to let Lieutenant of Melkor edit and erase my data, still.  {{unsigned|75.191.173.190}} ([[Special:Contributions/75.191.173.190|75.191.173.190]] ([[User talk:75.191.173.190#top|talk]]) 07:14, 26 March 2014 (UTC))