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Several things need to be added. 1) Kittredge's place in American folklore studies. His sponsorship of John A. Lomax and other folklorists. 2) Controversy over so-called "communal theory of composition" and criticisms by Louise Pound and others. 3) Different versions of his remarks about Lead Belly. 4) background about philologists versus "new humanists" -- the latter, who disparaged Kittredge as pedantic and out of date, were themselves often windy and made wildly inaccurate assertions (since they cared little for precision). Some of them were also racists, which Kittredge and Child, who were liberals of cosmopolitan views, were definitely not -- so their work now seems even more dated (I believe this is recounted in Gerald Graff's book on about English literature scholarship). 4) There are numerous colorful anecdotes told about Kittredge, some of which would be worth a mention.Mballen (talk) 04:14, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Kittredge's administrative power, vast erudition, prestige, and the histrionic attitude he assumed with undergraduates provoked resentment." -- Although I wrote this myself, I now see that it is a vast oversimplification. The quarrels over the philological method were more complex than this and have been gone over in Gerald Graff's book. Graff and Wellek reflect their time in that they are clearly biased in favor of "criticism" over and against philology. Nevertheless, critics of philology did have a point. Not everybody needed to study Gothic (or even Greek) in order to teach or study English. And the controversy over how to reconcile research with the requirements of general education is still with us -- indeed the purpose of a liberal arts education is still in doubt. I haven't figured out how to deal with this in a concise manner but will make some additions later -- not to mention dealing with the "communal" theory of composition of folk ballads that Kittredge was accused of promoting.173.77.100.252 (talk) 01:47, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jesus-like qualities

"To save money he walked to Harvard every day from his home in Boston across the Charles River to Cambridge." Even for a giant like George Lyman Kittredge, an WP:EXCEPTIONAL claim like that's gonna need support from exceptional sources. EEng (talk) 15:05, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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 "Kittredge's administrative power, vast erudition, prestige, and the histrionic attitude he assumed with undergraduates provoked resentment." -- Although I wrote this myself, I now see that it is a vast oversimplification. The quarrels over the philological method were more complex than this and have been gone over in Gerald Graff's book. Graff and Wellek reflect their time in that they are clearly biased in favor of "criticism" over and against philology. Nevertheless, critics of philology did have a point. Not everybody needed to study Gothic (or even Greek) in order to teach or study English. And the controversy over how to reconcile research with the requirements of general education is still with us -- indeed the purpose of a liberal arts education is still in doubt. I haven't figured out how to deal with this in a concise manner but will make some additions later -- not to mention dealing with the "communal" theory of composition of folk ballads that Kittredge was accused of promoting.[[Special:Contributions/173.77.100.252|173.77.100.252]] ([[User talk:173.77.100.252|talk]]) 01:47, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
+== Jesus-like qualities ==
+"To save money he walked to Harvard every day from his home in Boston across the Charles River to Cambridge." Even for a giant like George Lyman Kittredge, an [[WP:EXCEPTIONAL]] claim like that's gonna need support from exceptional sources. [[User:EEng|EEng]] ([[User talk:EEng|talk]]) 15:05, 24 September 2014 (UTC)