User talk:Jgwing

Welcome!

Hello, Jonny Wing Johnson Matthey, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you edited appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article. Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{Help me}} before the question. Again, welcome! --John (talk) 14:16, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Re: Welcome!

Hi John, Thanks for your kind advice. I've requested a username change and saved a user draft – {{Help me}}would you mind looking at it? User:Jonny_Wing_Johnson_Matthey/sandbox/Johnson_Matthey Many thanks, Jonny. Jonny Wing Johnson Matthey (talk) 15:59, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

The page already exists Johnson Matthey (I know - I work for them) - you cannot create a new one, you need to edit the current article directly, incorporating your edits into the existing data. Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 16:26, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi Ron, this version is built upon the existing article – I have just put it here to attract comment on my edits. Jonny Wing Johnson Matthey (talk) 16:31, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Hello Jonny; the username change request will soon be processed; the Bureaucrats who rename accounts are volunteers too, so that may take a couple of hours. Regarding your draft, I see two immediate problems: Parts of it seem unduly promotional (with terms such as "world leader", for example - are there market share figures to back up that claim?), and the vast, vast majority of the references are Johnson Matthey's own writings (which, rather unsurprisingly, give a positive account of the company's activities and history). Third-party sources such as this one don't even mention Johnson Matthey. Yet reliable third-party sources such as newspapers, reputable magazines or books on the history of precious metal manufacturing that discuss the company in some detail are what a Wikipedia article should be based on. For example, it would be much more impressive if anybody but Johnson Matthey shared their assessment on the "beneficial impact on the environment" (not just neutral or less negative than others but beneficial, seriously? I rather doubt that) many of their products supposedly have.

A link to your draft from the article talk page would be the most likely method to attract comments from editors interested in the company article, but given that our current article is far superior to your draft regarding the sources, your draft is not a useful replacement. My suggestion would be to propose specific changes to the current article on its talk page (as in "Change A into B with references X, Y and Z"), supported by reliable third-party sources. You may also want to take a look at our guideline on conflicts of interest and the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use regarding paid editing on Wikipedia. Huon (talk) 16:38, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Huon, agree that falling back on Johnson Matthey news releases is too subjective. I will try and find alternative references where possible. I will also readdress the text and tone down overly enthusiastic parts. The beneficial impact on the environment is through abatement – I will make sure that's clear. Jonny Wing Johnson Matthey (talk) 17:06, 15 November 2014 (UTC)