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Removed from [[Rivers Cuomo]] by [[OrphanBot]] saying it was unsourced, which it wasn't: a [http://www.eudiriaque.com.br/index.php?target=arquivos&arquivo=2005_06_01 URL] was given. The article is currently un-illustrated. I will compose a fair use rationale, etc., once restored. [[User:NeonMerlin|<span style="background-color:#000000;color:#00ff00;text-decoration:underline overline"><span style="color:#ff0000">Neon</span></span>]][[User talk:NeonMerlin|<span style="background-color:#00ff00;color:#ff0000;text-decoration:underline overline"><span style="color:#000000">Merlin</span></span>]] 19:39, 26 July 2006 (UTC) |
Removed from [[Rivers Cuomo]] by [[OrphanBot]] saying it was unsourced, which it wasn't: a [http://www.eudiriaque.com.br/index.php?target=arquivos&arquivo=2005_06_01 URL] was given. The article is currently un-illustrated. I will compose a fair use rationale, etc., once restored. [[User:NeonMerlin|<span style="background-color:#000000;color:#00ff00;text-decoration:underline overline"><span style="color:#ff0000">Neon</span></span>]][[User talk:NeonMerlin|<span style="background-color:#00ff00;color:#ff0000;text-decoration:underline overline"><span style="color:#000000">Merlin</span></span>]] 19:39, 26 July 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''Done'''. The sourcing was removed by a vandal, and orphan bot isn't able to spot that. I restored it and reverted back to pre-vandal (and thus also pre-speedy tags). As it stands, the image has a tag and a source, so probably its ok. If you can write the detailed fair-use rationale, that'd be good, too. -[[User:Splash|Splash]] - [[User talk:Splash|tk]] 02:37, 27 July 2006 (UTC) |
*'''Done'''. The sourcing was removed by a vandal, and orphan bot isn't able to spot that. I restored it and reverted back to pre-vandal (and thus also pre-speedy tags). As it stands, the image has a tag and a source, so probably its ok. If you can write the detailed fair-use rationale, that'd be good, too. -[[User:Splash|Splash]] - [[User talk:Splash|tk]] 02:37, 27 July 2006 (UTC) |
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====[[American Cliche]]==== |
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:''[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/American Cliche]]'' |
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Relist, as show is on Sirus Stars every Wednesday on Sirius Satellite channel 102 at 4:30 PM PT (7:30 PM ET) starting August 2nd. Which is national satelite radio. Also on large podcast network [[Podshow]]. Deserves an article again. If relisted I could cleanup and add the new content easily. [[User:Michaelbeckham|- Mike Beckham]] 03:54, 26 July 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''Comment:''' I've notified [[User:Ezeu|Ezeu]] of this review. --[[User:Deathphoenix|Deathphoenix]] [[User_talk:Deathphoenix|'''ʕ''']] 12:17, 26 July 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''Endorse closure''' Concerns noted above were raised in the AFD discussion. User:WilyD said they couldn't find any news articles about the show. No evidence of independent reliable sources presented in AFD or above. [[User:GRBerry|GRBerry]] 13:41, 26 July 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''Endorse closure''': I do wonder, though, about the searches. The word "cliche" with or without the grave could screw things up. I agree, though, about podcasts: knowing their audience is all but impossible, and there is a multiple infinity of them waiting just outside the door to get in. We haven't developed a [[WP:POD]] yet to try to assess the chaos coming our way, and I would encourage any policy freaks reading this to start it (yeah, I'm a policy freak, but I have prejudices against pod people). [[User:Geogre|Geogre]] 17:55, 26 July 2006 (UTC) |
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*:What's wrong with [[WP:WEB]]? --[[User:Samuel Blanning|Sam Blanning]]<sup>[[User talk:Samuel Blanning|(talk)]]</sup> 18:08, 26 July 2006 (UTC) |
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*::It's been a while since I looked, but it would be possible, even likely, that a site ''hosting'' a podcast would get trillions of visitors a day, while the podcast might be downloaded and listened to by virtually no one. On the other hand, it might be possible for a specialty podcast on, say, nude fly fishing, to get mentioned multiple times by newspapers as an example of the silliest thing in the world and yet have no downloads except by the podcaster's wife. In other words, hits and references are going to be especially misleading with podcasts, and podcasters themselves haven't the vaguest idea how many listeners they actually have. The hosts of the podcasts are going to be poor indicators, as well, as PodCentral or whatever serves that function might get a lot of aggregate hits with virtually none for any one podcast. [[User:Geogre|Geogre]] 18:52, 26 July 2006 (UTC) |
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*:::'Hits', whether Google, Alexa, or whatever, are almost always misleading, or should be assumed to be so. As for external sources, the vast majority of nn podcasts won't have any, and for your example of a podcast that received lots of external coverage but had a tiny audience, well, assuming the only mention was 'as an example of the silliest thing in the world', that would (hopefully) be deleted by AfD as relying on trivial slow-news-day passing mentions - such news stories would almost certainly be unable to decently verify anything about the podcast other than its existence. I just don't see what new guidance a separate guideline would have to offer. --[[User:Samuel Blanning|Sam Blanning]]<sup>[[User talk:Samuel Blanning|(talk)]]</sup> 21:17, 26 July 2006 (UTC) |
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*::Well, I'm not writing one, but I think at least a codicil to the existing wikilawyering of WP:WEB would be nice as a truncheon to wield when needed. <shrug> Mileage varies. [[User:Geogre|Geogre]] 02:44, 27 July 2006 (UTC) |
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*'''Endorse deletion''', valid AfD. --[[User:Deathphoenix|Deathphoenix]] [[User_talk:Deathphoenix|'''ʕ''']] 05:18, 27 July 2006 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 14:23, 31 July 2006
- Full reviews may be found in this page history. For a summary, see Wikipedia:Deletion review/Recently concluded (2006 July)
26 July 2006
This image was removed by Proto with the reason being Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Deadmines. This image is still in the World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade article and thus, should be undeleted. Maged123 23:39, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
- Done. For some reason, Special:Whatlinkshere/Image:KarazhanInterior01.jpg refuses to acknowledge the fact that said article does, in fact, link to it, and has done since before the deletion. I guess that's why Proto thought it ok to delete what amounted to an unused fair-use image. -Splash - tk 02:33, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- It didn't tell me it was still in use (bah) - as it still is, then no issue with undeletion here. Proto::type 10:06, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: Checking file links for an image before deletion is much better than checking after deletion - whatlinkshere is useless for images after they've been deleted. I experimented with one CSD I3 image (which I orphaned after deletion); file links before deletion showed one article using it, but whatlinkshere showed no links after deletion. Kimchi.sg 05:34, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, that's right. I think I was just ploughing through the sixty or seventy images that had fallen out of fair use when the raft of articles were deleted, and missed that this one was used by another article. Whatlinkshere is no good for images. Proto::type 09:33, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Removed from Rivers Cuomo by OrphanBot saying it was unsourced, which it wasn't: a URL was given. The article is currently un-illustrated. I will compose a fair use rationale, etc., once restored. NeonMerlin 19:39, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
- Done. The sourcing was removed by a vandal, and orphan bot isn't able to spot that. I restored it and reverted back to pre-vandal (and thus also pre-speedy tags). As it stands, the image has a tag and a source, so probably its ok. If you can write the detailed fair-use rationale, that'd be good, too. -Splash - tk 02:37, 27 July 2006 (UTC)