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FrozenFan2

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Please note that a case was originally opened under Bigshowandkane64 (talk · contribs) but has been moved to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/FrozenFan2. Future cases should be placed under Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/FrozenFan2.

01 August 2015

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Suspected sockpuppets

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Suspected sock account is reverting edits back to last edits made by blocked User:FrozenFan2 sock, User:TheSimpsons98. WP:DUCK. See contributions here: [1] -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 21:36, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Comments by other users

Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

I am Jason I am not a sockpuppet, i am reverting those edits back because that blocked user had the right info and it was reverted because he or she was a vandal. I believe that any info that is correct should stay even if it was added by a vandal. Run a checkuser,i guarantee you will find i am not a sockpuppet. Stop reverting good edits from vandals.everyone has a right to have their content stay if its not vandalism — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarkusAlBertson (talk • contribs) 21:40, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Actually, no one has a "right" to edit Wikipedia, and edits made by block-evading sockpuppets are subject to removal. If you were a Wikipedian in good standing -- which you are not as of yet -- you could revert and take responsibility for those edits, but seeing as how your account was just created today, and that you are reverting edits that they made, there is no reasonable conclusion that can be drawn except that you are a sock- or meatpuppet of FrozenFan2. BMK (talk) 22:05, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

That's where you are wrong. The whole ocncept of wikipedia is everyone can edit. Just because some is evading a block doesn't mean their edits should be reverted because they are vandals. It's like you're playing favorites. Wikipedia is about getting info ,not about who puts that info in.I am not a puppet of this person. I am a casual observer who saw an injustice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarkusAlBertson (talk • contribs) 22:21, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Actually everyone can edit as long as they add reliable sources when adding info. FrozenFan2 never got that concept and neither have you. This adds to the suspicion that you are one and the same. MarnetteD|Talk 22:25, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Plus the inability to sign their own posts. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Union of Opposites ‖ 22:28, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Oh, and if you're looking to right great injustices, you're on the wrong website. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - Welfare State ‖ 22:31, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

But with Jerry Nelson, adding a 'm' symbol for marriage isn't a terrible thing, and adding (his death) shows that death ended the marriage and not divorce. I am done with this. Revert all you want. Get Callanecc, Mike V or DiabloMike to do a checkuser and get this over with so I can be vindicated. Do what you want, heck with this user. Maybe one day wikipedia will fix the tag teaming and stables of editors.

People on Wikipedia have cliques like Ponyo ,<redacted> 'drmies' <redacted> and Marnette etc. — — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarkusAlBertson (talk • contribs) 22:52, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

@MarkusAlBertson: You left a message on Winkelvi's talk page in which you wrote

Run a checkuser i am not a sockpuppet,i came across the investigation in the recent changes. Someone should not have their good edits reverted just becaz they were a vandal. That goes against the spirit of wikipedia.I am a new editor. a checkuser will vindicate me. I swear on my mom s life.don't revert my edits. doing so makes wikipedia content worse

It may come as a surprise to you, but CheckUser data is not the only way we determine who is and isn't a sockpuppet on Wikipedia, so whatever you've done to make it so that your account will look technically different from FrozenFan2 and his socks isn't going to help you as much as you apparent believe it will. (Incidentally, just a tip from a long-time observer here, swearing on your mother's life or your grandfather's grave is a pretty sure tip-off that you're a sockpuppet.) BMK (talk) 22:58, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Also, good edits are not reverted because you are a vandal. Edits by vandals are reverted because they are bad. Yes, and sometimes because they are done by a vandal. Please see WP:DENY. Though I did fix your edits on Christopher Awdry. You're welcome. --‖ Ebyabe ^talk - State of the Union ‖ 23:05, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

It should be noted that the edits you claim that you are defending are old enough that they would not be in the "recent changes" queue when you created your account so the only way you would know about them is that you knew they had been made in the first place. MarnetteD|Talk 23:06, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Does my grammar look like Frozen Fan ok the truth is I look through sockpuppet case pages . I recall the fact that your site falsely blocked over a hundred of suspected 'socks' recently only to be found out to be wrong. This whole site is a witch hunt that hides behind 'duck' nonsense. So many good editors are lost this way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarkusAlBertson (talk • contribs) 23:23, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Yes, actually, your lack of proper writing ability looks very much like FrozenFan and all of his socks --- very much so. And I note that you have just admitted to lying to make yourself look less suspicious - "I saw the investigation in Recent Changes ... well, ok, the truth is I look through sockpuppet case pages." And why would that be, to pick up tips on how to avoid being spotted as a sock? Besides, as far as I'm aware there's no way to "browse" through cases - you put a name into a search box and it returns the connected pages. Are you saying that you randomly typed in "FrozenFan2", sorta like the 100 monkeys coming up with Hamlet? BMK (talk) 23:32, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

BMK is bullying me you just insulted my writing skills and I am tempted to report you to ANI ,everyone just gangs up on people on Wikipedia. Hive mentality (no offense to Swarm who has a cool name) I can write better than you BMK, I was on the honor roll in high school,I choose not to write properly because it's boring to do so and it's the internet and I don't care what you people think about my grammar this isn't a writing class it's wikipedia. I am offended by your comment .Very offended, it's ok to suck up to gays and blacks but you can offend people for their writing skills really?? Ok truth is I am jaredgk2008 (see my case page) One request, allow Gogo Dodo to block me

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