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::::::*See [[WP:INTEGRITY]]: {{tq|"adding text without clearly placing its source may lead to allegations of original research, of violations of the sourcing policy, and even of plagiarism."}} As this is aiming at featured content, it needs to be watertight in what information it contains, and in the formatting that justifies its inclusion. - [[User:SchroCat|SchroCat]] ([[User talk:SchroCat|talk]]) 12:35, 16 February 2016 (UTC) |
::::::*See [[WP:INTEGRITY]]: {{tq|"adding text without clearly placing its source may lead to allegations of original research, of violations of the sourcing policy, and even of plagiarism."}} As this is aiming at featured content, it needs to be watertight in what information it contains, and in the formatting that justifies its inclusion. - [[User:SchroCat|SchroCat]] ([[User talk:SchroCat|talk]]) 12:35, 16 February 2016 (UTC) |
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:::::::*Interesting read, and since the sources are in the article it probably took me less time to add them than to read that link ;-)[[User:MPJ-DK|'''<span style="background:blue;color:white;border: 1px solid blue"> MPJ</span>''']][[User talk:MPJ-DK|<span style="background:red;color:white;border: 1px solid blue">'''-US''' </span>]] 12:43, 16 February 2016 (UTC) |
:::::::*Interesting read, and since the sources are in the article it probably took me less time to add them than to read that link ;-)[[User:MPJ-DK|'''<span style="background:blue;color:white;border: 1px solid blue"> MPJ</span>''']][[User talk:MPJ-DK|<span style="background:red;color:white;border: 1px solid blue">'''-US''' </span>]] 12:43, 16 February 2016 (UTC) |
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::::::::*The difference is now that if you don't ever return to WP again for some reason, the information is nicely sourced and won't be tagged for FLRC for having a whole section without references because other people don't have the references to check. It's as much about protecting the article as anything else. -[[User:SchroCat|SchroCat]] ([[User talk:SchroCat|talk]]) 12:57, 16 February 2016 (UTC) |
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:*Thank you for the review, I appreciate it. And considering I work on so much Mexican stuff I have to admit my Spanish is not that great either, I rely heavily on translation tools - which is a pain for magazines but it's all for the love of lucha libre ;-) I added comments to each specific issue. [[User:MPJ-DK|'''<span style="background:blue;color:white;border: 1px solid blue"> MPJ</span>''']][[User talk:MPJ-DK|<span style="background:red;color:white;border: 1px solid blue">'''-US''' </span>]] 11:34, 16 February 2016 (UTC) |
:*Thank you for the review, I appreciate it. And considering I work on so much Mexican stuff I have to admit my Spanish is not that great either, I rely heavily on translation tools - which is a pain for magazines but it's all for the love of lucha libre ;-) I added comments to each specific issue. [[User:MPJ-DK|'''<span style="background:blue;color:white;border: 1px solid blue"> MPJ</span>''']][[User talk:MPJ-DK|<span style="background:red;color:white;border: 1px solid blue">'''-US''' </span>]] 11:34, 16 February 2016 (UTC) |
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Mexican National Lightweight Championship (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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- Nominator(s): MPJ-US 03:58, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
I am nominating this for featured list because it matches the format and quality content of a number of other professional wrestling championship featured lists that I have maintained over the years and this would be another article towards a potential Featured Topic I have been working on off and on over the years. After each FL review I have gone through I have made sure to apply feedback from those to future FL candidates including this one. MPJ-US 03:58, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
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- Looks good! Support. Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:49, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
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So here is what my research has found
Thanks for clarifying the Damiancito situation. Here's some other comments.......
Hope this helps -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:33, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
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- "List" is a "Class" not "type", you can see Category:List-Class articles. Anyway, thanks for doing change in class of this article. List otherwise seems ok to be called as FL. Good work. --Human3015 It will rain 15:36, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
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Thinks that's it, tweak those and we're all good :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:33, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
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- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:33, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
- Comment - Very well done list article. Well organized, well sourced, and informative. I only have a single note. and it's pretty trivial, but the last line of the lead, the phrase "the longest individual reign" seems unclear to me. Perhaps the word continuous is a better choice? But even with that, I vote Support. Onel5969 TT me 03:17, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
- Source review
As far as I can tell with my poor and very rusty Spanish, the sources are reliable. Spot checks have shown the information claimed in the article is correct and no copyvios have been found (again with the proviso that my Spanish isn't good, so I wouldn't spot a copyvio through translation anyway!) Four points for you to address:
- The section Reigns by combined length has no citations
- This section is simply adding up the data in the first table, the first table is totally sourced so I did not see a need to repeat the citations for this section.
- Technically that would fall foul of WP:OR. I suggest you add the G1 and 2 refs to the top of the table (next to the "Wrestler" column heading) to ensure there the information is covered with a source. - SchroCat (talk) 11:45, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
- Technically it does not, it falls under "routine calculations" which has it's own subsection. It is simply adding up number of days from the table above. MPJ-US 12:18, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
- But it still needs to carry the citations, regardless of whether they are addedup or not. At the moment you have a whole section without a source, and you ca't claim that it's being supported by citations from other sections. I'm afraid I can't promote it until the section has references to support the information. - SchroCat (talk) 12:23, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
- Well if that's the criteria then G1 and G2 are insufficient, that only covers through 2004. Now I can repeat the citations, not a problem since they're already there, I am just failing to see the reason why a repeated fact has to be cited again. MPJ-US 12:31, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
- See WP:INTEGRITY:
"adding text without clearly placing its source may lead to allegations of original research, of violations of the sourcing policy, and even of plagiarism."
As this is aiming at featured content, it needs to be watertight in what information it contains, and in the formatting that justifies its inclusion. - SchroCat (talk) 12:35, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
- Interesting read, and since the sources are in the article it probably took me less time to add them than to read that link ;-) MPJ-US 12:43, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
- The difference is now that if you don't ever return to WP again for some reason, the information is nicely sourced and won't be tagged for FLRC for having a whole section without references because other people don't have the references to check. It's as much about protecting the article as anything else. -SchroCat (talk) 12:57, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
- See WP:INTEGRITY:
- G1 and FNs 2 and 3 are from books: you need to include the publishing location
- Found locations for both and added them
- G2 and FN1 have inconsistent date formats with all other dates on the page
- Fixed
- FN 13: we can swap out the shouty caps
- Looking at it I had already half way fixed it, now it's 100% fixed.
– SchroCat (talk) 07:08, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you for the review, I appreciate it. And considering I work on so much Mexican stuff I have to admit my Spanish is not that great either, I rely heavily on translation tools - which is a pain for magazines but it's all for the love of lucha libre ;-) I added comments to each specific issue. MPJ-US 11:34, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
- Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{featured list candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. - SchroCat (talk) 12:57, 16 February 2016 (UTC)