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It would be irresponsible to add info about the Ace of Clubs or Ace of Diamonds without context, criticism and the reasons why people have largely abandoned them. The Ace of Clubs & Ace of Diamonds were made up in 2014 by Sara from "TheAsexualityBlog" for "Ace Visibility Day" which was widely criticised on many levels. The name, timing and purpose of the day were changed in response (Ace Day-- and no longer about selfies). In particular, 4 card system adding the ace of diamonds and clubs was harshly criticised for making "romantic orientation" mandatory and breaking it up in particular ways according to homonormative neoliberal identity politics which simply do not reflect the diversity of lived experiences. (More about the history here: http://www.theasexualityblog.com/information.html) People have backed off from that and even Ace Day no longer uses the ace of diamonds and clubs for the purpose of this day. (More info here: http://www.theasexualityblog.com/ace-day-announcements.html ) The AVEN wiki articles are generally lacking in ace community history and context and often include biased information. That page contains misleading information about explaining "ace" and leaves out the part about how it wasn't used the way it is now as an identity label/descriptor until it was deliberately adopted for an unconference in San Fransisco circa 2011 to be an umbrella term for everyone on the asexual spectrum: while it is a phonetic abbrieviation of "asexual" it is not "short for asexual". <small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/70.48.155.124|70.48.155.124]] ([[User talk:70.48.155.124|talk]]) 19:04, 10 June 2016 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
It would be irresponsible to add info about the Ace of Clubs or Ace of Diamonds without context, criticism and the reasons why people have largely abandoned them. The Ace of Clubs & Ace of Diamonds were made up in 2014 by Sara from "TheAsexualityBlog" for "Ace Visibility Day" which was widely criticised on many levels. The name, timing and purpose of the day were changed in response (Ace Day-- and no longer about selfies). In particular, 4 card system adding the ace of diamonds and clubs was harshly criticised for making "romantic orientation" mandatory and breaking it up in particular ways according to homonormative neoliberal identity politics which simply do not reflect the diversity of lived experiences. (More about the history here: http://www.theasexualityblog.com/information.html) People have backed off from that and even Ace Day no longer uses the ace of diamonds and clubs for the purpose of this day. (More info here: http://www.theasexualityblog.com/ace-day-announcements.html ) The AVEN wiki articles are generally lacking in ace community history and context and often include biased information. That page contains misleading information about explaining "ace" and leaves out the part about how it wasn't used the way it is now as an identity label/descriptor until it was deliberately adopted for an unconference in San Fransisco circa 2011 to be an umbrella term for everyone on the asexual spectrum: while it is a phonetic abbrieviation of "asexual" it is not "short for asexual". <small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/70.48.155.124|70.48.155.124]] ([[User talk:70.48.155.124|talk]]) 19:04, 10 June 2016 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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There is a reference here to sexuality as a static versus fluid thing, and its referenced as if there is no debate... but there is a debate on this.... I think this needs altering and a source for fluid sexuality linked to support that side of things. Some sources could be taken from here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_fluidity [[Special:Contributions/80.80.177.122|80.80.177.122]] ([[User talk:80.80.177.122|talk]]) 16:34, 17 March 2016 (UTC) 17/3/16 |
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:Late to reply, but I'm not sure what you mean. [[User:Flyer22 Reborn|Flyer22 Reborn]] ([[User talk:Flyer22 Reborn|talk]]) 23:41, 20 April 2016 (UTC) |
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== Nonsexuality == |
== Nonsexuality == |
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Symbols
There is a section on symbols but it doesn't include an Ace of Spades or Ace of Hearts which has come to represent the ACE community. See AVEN wiki which says "Ace of Hearts and Ace of Spades: these playing cards represent asexuality because "ace" is a slang term for an asexual." See: https://www.asexuality.org/wiki/index.php?title=Symbols_of_asexuality and https://www.asexuality.org/wiki/index.php?title=Asexual_slang and http://theasexualityblog.tumblr.com/post/115695074156/ace-visibility-day and http://anagnori.tumblr.com/post/69567959214/asexual-symbols Tomandzeke (talk) 15:32, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
- Tomandzeke, we need WP:Reliable sources for that, and/or at least a free image via WP:Commons. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 02:20, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
The Ace of Clubs and the Ace of Diamonds are also being used now, representing Greyromantic Aces and Demiromantic Aces respectively. See: https://www.asexuality.org/wiki/index.php?title=Asexual_slang Cattnip (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:37, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
It would be irresponsible to add info about the Ace of Clubs or Ace of Diamonds without context, criticism and the reasons why people have largely abandoned them. The Ace of Clubs & Ace of Diamonds were made up in 2014 by Sara from "TheAsexualityBlog" for "Ace Visibility Day" which was widely criticised on many levels. The name, timing and purpose of the day were changed in response (Ace Day-- and no longer about selfies). In particular, 4 card system adding the ace of diamonds and clubs was harshly criticised for making "romantic orientation" mandatory and breaking it up in particular ways according to homonormative neoliberal identity politics which simply do not reflect the diversity of lived experiences. (More about the history here: http://www.theasexualityblog.com/information.html) People have backed off from that and even Ace Day no longer uses the ace of diamonds and clubs for the purpose of this day. (More info here: http://www.theasexualityblog.com/ace-day-announcements.html ) The AVEN wiki articles are generally lacking in ace community history and context and often include biased information. That page contains misleading information about explaining "ace" and leaves out the part about how it wasn't used the way it is now as an identity label/descriptor until it was deliberately adopted for an unconference in San Fransisco circa 2011 to be an umbrella term for everyone on the asexual spectrum: while it is a phonetic abbrieviation of "asexual" it is not "short for asexual". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.48.155.124 (talk) 19:04, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
Nonsexuality
Why was nonsexuality removed from this article? It is a historical alternative word for asexuality. I noticed in the editing notes someone just removed the word and said it was "bullshit." Who gets to make this decision and why was the word not restored? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eddietheace (talk • contribs) 13:59, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
- As seen with this edit, an IP removed it and I did not restore it since it is not a significant WP:Alternative name for this topic. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 05:28, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
More WP:Student editing
Eeverso1 (talk · contribs), Figuresk8ter94 (talk · contribs) and Rrdominguez (talk · contribs), what do you have planned for this article? Whatever it is, do see WP:Student editing. As seen with this edit (followup edit here), I tweaked and downsized one piece from your class. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 07:20, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
Please add Edward Gorey back to the section "Famous asexual people". He's already deceased (2000), so he is not affected by WP:BLP.
Also please add David Jay to the section "See also". He's the founder and webmaster of AVEN, so I like it's quite appropriate to add him to that section. Thanks Q. C. D. L. (talk) 21:28, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
- Q. C. D. L. (talk · contribs), I was clear that I deleted the recent "Famous asexual people" section because it was trivia and because of WP:BLP issues. I pointed to Talk:Asexuality/Archive 6#Removing "Notable Asexuals" section. Whether we are listing alive or deceased asexual people, the section is not needed and would attract problems -- the unsourced and WP:Synthesis type of problems. I also don't think such a section is encyclopedic. Furthermore, it's already clear from the article that David Jay is asexual. Per WP:See also, Edward Gorey can be linked in the See also section. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 02:09, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
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