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Richard Carroll (jeweller)

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This biography is a hoax, probably fabricated to create a history for a brand of iPhone covers. The biography was started by a single-purpose account, User:Jeweller m, on English and Russian Wikipedias,[1] using a URL from the Ukraine Google Books.[2] It was also expanded by a Ukraine IP, Special:Contributions/95.81.10.73. The sources don't support anything about a jeweller or goldsmith named Richard Carroll, and they don't mention the supposed Caiman's brand of jewellery in London. An exhaustive search found nothing at all about this guy or his brand. It's quite suspicious that a recently formed "luxury" brand of iPhone cover called Caimania can be found in English-language and Ukraine sources. Binksternet (talk) 05:25, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging Graphium who twice declined the AFD three years ago. Also Rankersbo who asked for dates from Jeweller m. A week later, Dodger67 thought this biography was suitable for mainspace. Note that INeverCry and Ellin Beltz recently deleted images of Caimania iPhone brand (File:Iphone_5_caimania.JPG, File:Caimania-logotype.jpg) from Wikimedia Commons for copyright violation reasons, and Ellin Beltz also nominated the notional Richard Carroll image for deletion because of its patently false declaration of ownership.[3] Binksternet (talk) 05:44, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 05:58, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 05:58, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 05:59, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: the Russian article ru:Кэрролл, Ричард has an additional paragraph with a story about how Carroll was saved by a caiman when his boat capsized in Colombia, and so called his shop "Caiman's Jewellery", and his descendants revived the brand as "Caimania" to sell expensive mobile-phone cases. There is such a brand, and the same story appears on the their website. That can't be regarded as a reliable source, and in view of the doubts about the image expressed at Commons::Commons:Deletion requests/File:Richard Carroll.jpg I am leaning delete as a hoax/marketing ploy unless some other confirmation can be found. Unfortunately, I don't have access to any of the books cited as sources. JohnCD (talk) 09:53, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Per nom. The creator's deleted uploads on Commons include File:Caimania-logotype.jpg, File:Caimania-logo2.jpg, and File:Iphone 5 caimania.JPG. INeverCry 19:44, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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 :<small class="delsort-notice">Note:  This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/United Kingdom|list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions]]. Regards, [[User:Krishna Chaitanya Velaga|Krishna Chaitanya Velaga]] ([[User_talk:Krishna Chaitanya Velaga|talk]]&nbsp;&bull;&#32;[[Special:EmailUser/Krishna_Chaitanya_Velaga|mail]]) 05:58, 20 August 2016 (UTC)</small>
 :<small class="delsort-notice">Note:  This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Businesspeople|list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions]]. Regards, [[User:Krishna Chaitanya Velaga|Krishna Chaitanya Velaga]] ([[User_talk:Krishna Chaitanya Velaga|talk]]&nbsp;&bull;&#32;[[Special:EmailUser/Krishna_Chaitanya_Velaga|mail]]) 05:59, 20 August 2016 (UTC)</small>
-*'''Comment:''' the Russian article [[:ru:Кэрролл, Ричард]] has an additional paragraph with a story about how Carroll was saved by a caiman when his boat capsized in Colombia, and so called his shop "Caiman's Jewellery", and his descendants revived the brand as "Caimania" to sell expensive mobile-phone cases. There is such a brand, and the  same story appears on the [http://caimania.com/en/About-Us-i4.html their website]. That can't be regarded as a reliable source, and in view of the doubts about the image expressed at [[Commons:Deletion requests/File:Richard Carroll.jpg]] I am leaning ''delete'' as a hoax/marketing ploy unless some other confirmation can be found. Unfortunately, I don't have access to any of the books cited as sources. [[User:JohnCD|JohnCD]] ([[User talk:JohnCD|talk]]) 09:53, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
+*'''Comment:''' the Russian article [[:ru:Кэрролл, Ричард]] has an additional paragraph with a story about how Carroll was saved by a caiman when his boat capsized in Colombia, and so called his shop "Caiman's Jewellery", and his descendants revived the brand as "Caimania" to sell expensive mobile-phone cases. There is such a brand, and the  same story appears on the [http://caimania.com/en/About-Us-i4.html their website]. That can't be regarded as a reliable source, and in view of the doubts about the image expressed at [[Commons::Commons:Deletion requests/File:Richard Carroll.jpg]] I am leaning ''delete'' as a hoax/marketing ploy unless some other confirmation can be found. Unfortunately, I don't have access to any of the books cited as sources. [[User:JohnCD|JohnCD]] ([[User talk:JohnCD|talk]]) 09:53, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
 *'''Delete''' Per nom. The creator's deleted uploads on Commons include [[:File:Caimania-logotype.jpg]], [[:File:Caimania-logo2.jpg]], and [[:File:Iphone 5 caimania.JPG]]. [[User talk:INeverCry|<span style="text-shadow:gray 3px 3px 2px;"><font face="AR Cena" color="black"><b>INeverCry</b></font></span>]] 19:44, 20 August 2016 (UTC)