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RFA, (still) run by CIA?

The article's Controversies and criticism section describes that "Radio Free Asia was also historically established as a CIA project". This contradicts the Radio Free Asia article, which describes the current incarnation (launched in 1996) bearing no relation to the CIA-funded project in 1950s.

Soon, I may start splitting a portion about CIA-funded RFA from 1950s into a new article. JSH-alive/^{talk/cont/mail} 11:07, 3 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I went through most of the citations this person listed and NONE of them say that the Open Technology Fund is or was funded by the CIA. Perhaps Radio Free Asia was many years ago, but not currently. The whole section on controversies and conspiracy theories is extremely biased, and not neutral. This PDF breaks down some of their funding, and mentions its an independent organization. This page specifically states this, "OTF operated as a program of RFA for seven years. Then, in 2019, the USAGM, with the help of Congress, created a new, restructured OTF - making OTF an independent Internet freedom non-profit organization." None of the those 'theories' mentioned in the page are written about by a current, citable source. Historically what something 'was' doesn't mean the project or group is still funded by that. Also, I can't find any other sources that corroborate that fact. So the book could be extremely biased. Additionally, I want to highlight the danger of writing about a civil society organization and saying it's funded by the CIA or any kind of governmental investigatory body. This person is clearly editing with an agenda. This whole section should be deleted. Cellarpaper (talk) 18:00, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Addition to Section 3 - Projects

With this reversion, User:Gamaliel removed my contribution, which I believe raises none of the issues he cites in his edit summary. My three sentences link to long-established WP:RS and present a short, straightforward narrative of a newsworthy OTF project from October 2019, that in no way violates NPOV. I respectfully request consensus to restore my contribution. NedFausa (talk) 01:33, 26 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not seeing any BLP at all in what was removed. The articles were quoted correctly and are both reliable sources. Gamaliel please explain what you're seeing that's BLP. Necromonger...We keep what we kill 17:41, 26 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the concerns were raised and discussed by Cellarpaper in their edit summaries. Gamaliel (talk) 18:30, 26 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Gamaliel: I believe you have not answered the question. Cellarpaper did not revert my contribution. You did. Please explain in your own words how my contribution violated WP policies or guidelines. NedFausa (talk) 18:40, 26 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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 :: I'm not seeing any BLP at all in what was removed. The articles were quoted correctly '''and''' are both reliable sources. {{U|Gamaliel}} please explain what you're seeing that's BLP.  [[User:Wekeepwhatwekill|<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">'''Necromonger...'''</span>]][[User_talk:Wekeepwhatwekill|<span style=";text-shadow:Grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">''We keep what we kill'']]</span> 17:41, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
 :::I believe the concerns were raised and discussed by {{u|Cellarpaper}} in their edit summaries.  [[User:Gamaliel|<span style="color:DarkGreen;">Gamaliel</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Gamaliel|<span style="color:DarkGreen;">talk</span>]])</small> 18:30, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
+::::{{ping|Gamaliel}} I believe you have not answered the question. {{u|Cellarpaper}} did not revert my contribution. You did. Please explain in your own words how my contribution violated WP policies or guidelines. [[User:NedFausa|NedFausa]] ([[User talk:NedFausa|talk]]) 18:40, 26 December 2019 (UTC)