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I agree that the reference is not primarily concerned with the main topic of the article, so it is not an ideal tertiary source about the ongoing "debate", but Olson is an academic scholar who is far from propagating "fringe crankery". Please read the passage from the source [https://books.google.de/books?id=mE-FCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA136]. Olson 1) starts with the mainstream view, then 2) describes the Indus-Valley-to-Vedic theory, and finally 3) describes a third position that suggest "mutual cultural influence". However, only the second part was quoted (more or less ''verbatim''), which makes it appear as if Olson defends the Indigenous Aryans bunk. The only thing Olson can be blamed for is that he portrays the dispute between the scholarly mainstream view and the ideologically motivated Indigenous Aryans "theory" as if these positions were on equal footing. I'll reinsert the source at the end of the paragraph, but leave the quoted text out, which was redundant anyway. –[[User:Austronesier|Austronesier]] ([[User talk:Austronesier|talk]]) 15:53, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
I agree that the reference is not primarily concerned with the main topic of the article, so it is not an ideal tertiary source about the ongoing "debate", but Olson is an academic scholar who is far from propagating "fringe crankery". Please read the passage from the source [https://books.google.de/books?id=mE-FCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA136]. Olson 1) starts with the mainstream view, then 2) describes the Indus-Valley-to-Vedic theory, and finally 3) describes a third position that suggest "mutual cultural influence". However, only the second part was quoted (more or less ''verbatim''), which makes it appear as if Olson defends the Indigenous Aryans bunk. The only thing Olson can be blamed for is that he portrays the dispute between the scholarly mainstream view and the ideologically motivated Indigenous Aryans "theory" as if these positions were on equal footing. I'll reinsert the source at the end of the paragraph, but leave the quoted text out, which was redundant anyway. –[[User:Austronesier|Austronesier]] ([[User talk:Austronesier|talk]]) 15:53, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
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Routledge a non-academic publisher?

About this edit: Are you sure that Routledge is a non-academic publisher?

I agree that the reference is not primarily concerned with the main topic of the article, so it is not an ideal tertiary source about the ongoing "debate", but Olson is an academic scholar who is far from propagating "fringe crankery". Please read the passage from the source [1]. Olson 1) starts with the mainstream view, then 2) describes the Indus-Valley-to-Vedic theory, and finally 3) describes a third position that suggest "mutual cultural influence". However, only the second part was quoted (more or less verbatim), which makes it appear as if Olson defends the Indigenous Aryans bunk. The only thing Olson can be blamed for is that he portrays the dispute between the scholarly mainstream view and the ideologically motivated Indigenous Aryans "theory" as if these positions were on equal footing. I'll reinsert the source at the end of the paragraph, but leave the quoted text out, which was redundant anyway. –Austronesier (talk) 15:53, 29 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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