Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/CheeseDreams 2/Evidence

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Evidence presented by Sandor

Trolling and vandalizing user pages on Swedish Wikipedia

User:CheeseDreams has used several IP's to vandalize user pages on Swedish Wikipedia, e.g. from 81.156.183.69, 81.156.92.59 and 81.156.180.239, see evidence [2]. See also discussion about this [3].

Sandor 17:32, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)

CheeseDreams continues to troll user pages [4]

Sandor 14:18, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Context - Sandor is a sock puppet of banned user Rienzo. Technically all edits by Sandor should be reverted - including the above. CheeseDreams 14:29, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Correction: CheeseDreams cannot possibly know that for certain as she is not a developer. - Ta bu shi da yu 01:53, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Apparently CheeseDreams sees sock puppets everywhere. CD vandalized my user and talk page repeatedly on February 13th. He has also removed or edited my comments on other talk pages. This has got to stop, people! Sandor 02:36, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Evidence presented by Ta bu shi da yu

29 January - ArbCom request against Slrubenstein

• 08:18, 29 Jan 2005
  • CheeseDreams submitted a request for arbitration.

• 5:32, 30 Jan 2005
  • Rejected by all arbitrators. This includes Grunt, Ambi, Neutrality, mav, Sannse, David Gerard and The Epopt.

• 08:54, 31 Jan 2005
  • mav rejects the request for arbitration formally and blanks it.

• 09:34, 1 Feb 2005
  • CheeseDreams resubmits the request that was rejected.

• 14:47, 1 Feb 2005
  • Arbitrator Ambi rejects request and notes that she "condemn[s] what is becoming a blatant misuse of this page."

• 14:48, 1 Feb 2005
  • Rejected by Grunt.

• 14:53, 1 Feb 2005
  • Rejected by mav, who states that "This is starting to look a lot like harassment against Sl."

• 14:58, 1 Feb 2005
  • Rejected by Neutrality.

• 14:59, 1 Feb 2005
  • Rejected by Raul654. He agrees with Ambi.

• 15:39, 1 Feb 2005
  • Ambi formally rejects the ArbCom request again.

1 February - harassing Ta bu shi da yu

• 10:14, 1 Feb 2005
  • Asks Dante Alighieri whether "Can you check to see whether 67.15.54.16 is a viable IP used by user User:Ta bu shi da yu. I know this is a strange idea, but 67.15.54.16 is based in melbourne, Australia."

• 09:34, 1 Feb 2005
  • Posts a message to Ta bu shi da yu's talk page stating that Ta bu shi da yu is a "literalist christian" (unsure what that means) and a "fundamentalist". Evidently did not recieve a reply that satisfied her from User:Dante Alighieri as she asks Ta bu shi da yu "Curiously, the IP address 67.15.54.16 is based in Melbourne, Australia, and I remember TBSDY claiming that they were in Australia. I wonder, TBSDY, do you speak Swedish?". The accusation is that TBSDY is using Rienzo as a sockpuppet. For the record, TBSDY neither speaks Swedish nor lives in Melbourne.

(response to above evidence by CheeseDreams) - correction of FACT - I can't have recieved an unsatisfactory reply from Dante Alighieri BEFORE I asked him - check the times, TBSDY

So in other words, you accused me of being a sockpuppet before asking to have this verified. That only makes this worse! - Ta bu shi da yu 01:52, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Please note: without a developer I cannot be certain that the posts from Special:Contributions/81.156.182.159 is CheeseDreams. I am presenting this as evidence because I strongly suspect that this is CheeseDreams, mainly because I've seen her post from this netblock before (it's is a BT cable IP address) and because of the response at [5].

• 06:41, 3 Feb 2005
  • Sends a message to Rd232 stating that Ta bu shi da yu is performing POV edits. States (with regards to The Jesus Mysteries that "Also note that Freke & Gandy's book was regarded by the Daily Telegraph as "an erudite and well researched book stuffed with controversial ideas", and so inserting only the CNN viewpoint is a heavy and POV attempt to discredit it." - however, Ta bu shi da yu did not remove this material. (Ta bu shi da yu did remove unsourced books, however, from Historicity of Jesus due to significant POV bias and no real evidence of them being used in the article - no sources were cited! Those inline sources that are now in the text were mostly put in by Ta bu shi da yu.)

• 06:56, 3 Feb 2005
  • Sends exactly the same message to Sunborn's talk page.

• 07:00, 3 Feb 2005
  • Sends same message to Bensaccount's talk page.

• 07:00, 3 Feb 2005
  • Sends same message to FeloniousMonk's talk page.

• 07:01, 3 Feb 2005
  • Sends the same message to Ben Standeven's talk page.

1 February - harasses Bacchiad

• 10:15, 1 Feb 2005
  • From her sock-puppet account (User:Cheese -dreams, CheeseDreams states "So, whose sock puppet are you? CheeseDreams 00:15, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)" (she had a disagreement with this user over an article).

(Response to the above by CheeseDreams) - Correction of CONTEXT - Bacchiad had just asked CheeseDreams to edit Osiris-Dionysus, then immediately CheeseDreams did so, Bacchiad asked for CheeseDreams to be banned for allegedly violating an ArbCom order, i.e. behaving as if Bacchiad had deliberately set CheeseDreams up (which is odd for a neutral editor to do, and more likely the action of someone CheeseDreams has encountered previously).

• 15:57, 1 Feb 2005
  • Ta bu shi da yu requests (on Bacchiad and on CheeseDreams page) that "This is the second time I've seen you imply that someone is a sockpuppet. The first time you did it for me. I count this as harassment. Will you please stop?"

• 14:04, 10 Feb 2005
  • Her answer, on User:Bacchiad's talk page, is "No." Clear evidence of willingness to harass people through accusations they are sock puppets.

Katoomba Christian Convention

• 14 Feb 2005
  • CheeseDreams removed a copyvio from the article and made a personal attack against myself: "TBSDY, you have been working on this article for months, and invited people to assist you. Strange how there is nothing here then." For the record, I don't actually have to work on my focus article if I don't wish to. - Ta bu shi da yu 01:50, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

No, I did not remove a copyvio. The link was red, TBSDY.

Evidence presented by Thryduulf

17 Feb 2005 - Page blanking in this RFAr

• 07:31
  • User:CheeseDreams blanks this evidence page. [6]
  • This is reverted by User:Curps at 07:34 [7]

• 07:32
  • User:CheeseDreams blanks the main page of this RFAr [8]
  • This is reverted by User:Curps at 07:33 [9]

Explanation of above by CheeseDreams

On 14th February 2005, I (CheeseDreams), gave Rienzo my password, doing so on Rienzo's talk page. Any edit claiming to be by me (CheeseDreams) since then is likely to be Rienzo, or someone else.

In particular, due to the speed of reversion of the above, I note that the only person who would really know about the page blanking apart from Curps would be Rienzo (or whoever logged in to my account if it was not Rienzo). Since Thryduulf presents the evidence, then this leads to the conclusion that Thryduulf is a Rienzo sockpuppet.

'Reponse by Thryduulf

I am not Rienzo. I have these pages on my watchlist (I follow many Arbritration cases), and when I saw Curps' edit summary "(Reverted edits by CheeseDreams to last version by Sandor)" I decided to take a look. I saw that nobody had yet presented the reversions as evidence, I decided to do so. My edit to this page was at 08:07, over 30 minutes late than the reversion [10]

• I am not User:Rienzo, and I explicitly invite the arbitration committee to investigate this. my contribution history, Rienzo's contribution history. It can be noted that we have never both edited the same page (with the singular exception of RickK's user talk page Rienzo's edit (July 2004 - 6 months before my first ever edit), my edit (Jan 2005).

19 Feb 2005 - Accusations of sockpuppetry

• 09:52
  • User:65.161.65.104 puts a note on my talk page that implicitly accuses me of being a sockpuppet of User:Rienzo (confirmed by the 09:49 edit to this page, above). [11]. The edit was signed CheeseDreams.