Talk:List of Heroes episodes

The naming convention and disambiguation guidelines for episode article titles are being discussed. Please comment on the RfC at WP:TV-NC

Multiple Versions of Episodes

Are multiple versions of episodes airing? Some of these descriptions contain events that did not appear in the version I saw.

No idea, but the descriptions I see are of the shows I saw.--Kranar drogin 10:37, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

It could be that the Canadian version is different from the American version, it could be that you are referring to the first airing of the pilot compared to subsequent version (which were trimmed in length for commercial breaks,) and it's possible that the Sci-Fi channel's version in the US is slightly different then the NBC version in the US (also due to commercial breaks.) --DJ Chair 13:31, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Episode Titles

The Sci-Fi Channel schedule lists the 7th episode as "Nothing to Hide," not "Nothing to Lose." Also, the following episode is listed as "Seven Minutes to Midnight."--MythicFox 08:33, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

"Seven Minutes to Midnight" is a reference to the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists' "Doomsday Clock," which currently stands at seven minutes to midnight. --198.82.102.237 21:08, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

"D.L. Hawkins" Character

Has this character appeared so far? I'm asking in case there are different versions of the episodes, because the ones I've seen haven't shown him even once, though they've referenced him in every episode. --TallulahBelle 15:43, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

There are currently zero episodes where D.L. Hawkins appears. There has been some thought as to the "mysterious man" who has been seen in the bar with Officer Matt and then again with Mr. Bennet in the secret laboratory. However, there is zero evidence that he is D.L. Hawkins, furthermore, the gentleman who is cast as D.L. Hawkins is different from the actor cast to portray the "mysterious man." --DJ Chair 16:30, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

He's appearing in episode five, and remember, this is not a forum. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 19:33, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Multiple versions

I support what was stated above. There are multiple versions at least of the first episode. I have on my HDD two versions of episode 1 with significant differences (story, not just length)--Energman 21:33, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Links to Episodes

Shouldn't we follow some type of naming convention here? I mean, what seems to make the most sense is to place the name of the episode, and then the name of the series. Having Hiros listed as just Hiros is going to follow some people up. --DJ Chair 21:10, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

That does not "make the most sense". Naming conventions of Wikipedia are about clarity, disambiguation and accuracy. No other articles for "Hiros" eliminates the need for disambiguation. Clarity is achieved by naming the episode properly. Accuracy over rules the supposed benefits of adding "Heroes episode" to the end of every article title. "Hiroes" is accurate. "Genesis (Heroes episode)" is not, but forgetable. Honestly... Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 22:33, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Consistency seems to be the best approach and so appending (Heroes episode) seems logical. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 22:36, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you DJ Chair! I totally agree with you. We have been having a discussion over at Hiros exactly about that. I think Clarity is HELPED, not hindered by (Heroes episode) after the title. I'd be okay with (Heroes) as well, as it helps immediately clarify that its part of a TV series. EnsRedShirt 22:39, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I also agree. --Kmsiever 16:54, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Standard

According to here if there is no disambiguation needed then the series name need not be included. That said most shows now include the series name by default for two reasons; one it makes it standard across the board and two it prevents future disambiguation issues. So the format I would recomend we use is <Episode Title>_(Heroes) on every episode for consistancy and to prevent potential future issues. -- Argash  |  talk  |  contribs  05:24, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

So, go against project guidelines for pointless, POV, pre-emptive reasons? Unnecessary. I won't have any part in that. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 05:27, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

In this case the project guidelines are wrong, short sighted, and need a change. It makes no sense why you are so against these being formated similarly so we can keep a constant look across all related articles. EnsRedShirt 05:31, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Because it's not necessary. Plus, things don't generally conform to "universal format". Not every comics-related article has "(comics)" at the end of it. Not every DC, Marvel, et cetera property has their at the end of their article. Why should every episode of a TV show have "([series] episode)" at the end of it? Because you say so? No. "Hiros" is the first use of that name. Seven Minutes to Midnight will be the first use of that one. And that reminds me, adding that extra "Heroes episode" will be a bitch with longer episode titles. Honestly, open your mind. I've considered your POVs and the only benefits of your "system" are, as I stated above, pointless, biased, against policy or a combination thereof. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 05:47, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I am sorry that creating a better looking, easier to read Encyclopedia creates a little more work.. (yea those extra 9 key strokes are killers.) EnsRedShirt 05:59, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Actually only (Heroes) would be appended not (Heroes episode) -- Argash  |  talk  |  contribs  06:05, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I've Posted an RfC

The RfC has been posted, since the issue has come up for Jericho, Heroes and Lost (probably others as well) I have put in a singly topic which you can read and discuss here -- Argash  |  talk  |  contribs  | Status:On 14:45, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Agreed, it's worth getting as much participation in this discussion as possible. All interested editors are invited to come in and participate in the poll. --Elonka 23:36, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Length of the "Short" descriptions

I'm wondering if the "short" descriptions aren't a bit to long. The standard for most shows is one to 3 lines while these seem too average around 6 lines. -- Argash  |  talk  |  contribs  | Status:On 06:19, 31 October 2006 (UTC)