User talk:Njd-de

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diligence
	Well spotted - that content had remained in the article for far longer than it should have, some editors had even disambiguated links in it (!). A good thing you took the time to read it, and respond appropriately. Cheers, and Happy New Year! GirthSummit (blether) 16:22, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Kittrell College

Dr. Stephanie Freeman: I had not addressed what you wrote to me, but I am going to address it now. A media firm wrote information on me (unpaid) because I am very well known for what I do. They wrote the information in a lively manner--a manner that fits my personality. I posted it because I thought this forum was open--as long as the information was credible. I don't need to advertise myself. I am already advertised, so to speak. I will have the firm revise the information and put it in the Wikipedia format with links. From there, I would like to know who gave you the right to remove something from a public platform. Also, why are the person to whom I have to justify what I am doing? I see Wikipedia's guidelines and suggestions (some strong suggestions), but I do not see where people have the right to remove credible information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sfreeman44 (talk • contribs) 22:37, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello Sfreeman44, Let me begin by addressing the last point you mentioned because the answer to it might lighten things on Wikipedia generally.

I am not the authority deciding on how a Wikipedia article should be written. I am far from being such an authority. Thus, you don’t have to justify what you are doing to me personally. However, Wikipedia is a community, a community run by volunteers. Everyone here is free to read and to contribute. Not only free to do so, but invited to do so. This invitation comes with a set of policies and content guidelines though. These have been formed over the years by consensus of the community.

To make it clear: Wikipedia is not a platform where you can just do what you want to do. So coming back to your question who gave you the right to remove something from a public platform: it is the community giving everyone this right. If something is not according to policy or seems like it would fail to reach consensus, everyone here can and should address it.

In this editing cycle - often known as "be bold, revert, discuss" - the credibility of information as you mentioned is indeed important. However, it's a key policy here that editors need to ensure that information is verifiable. This can be achieved by quoting reliable sources. It is not enough to edit based on "It is this way because I am saying it". A conflict of interest in the community's view doesn't stop when someone feels like he is already advertised and has no need for it as you'd say. It is the understanding here that someone in a conflict of interest is unduly influenced and will face difficulties adhering to a neutral point of view.

The way Wikipedia works might not be how you expected it to be. You might disagree with some of the policies, or even find them ridiculous. I can't change that for you. What I am doing though, is to encourage you to familiarize yourself with how Wikipedia works, ask questions and propose your edits on the article talk page. - NJD-DE (talk) 00:11, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

The community of which you speak is diverse. That means some members of the community have different styles and ways of documenting and relaying history and information. Some cultures are more oral than others. One type of community seems to be trying to rule what was intended to be an open format. Yes, information needs to be verifiable. However, the way in which the information is verified and handled is not being representative of a "community." Your information was associated with the removal of my information, which is why you and not the "community" was addressed. This aggressive posturing and acting on behalf of a "community" without reguard or respect for how some communities disseminate information is what I am addressing. It is arrogant at best and rude at worst to assume that the adopted "format" on an open platform should conform to what a some deem "appropriate." Wikipedia has suggestions and strong recommendations, but the validity of information is foremost. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sfreeman44 (talk • contribs) 01:37, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Sorry Sfreeman44, I am too tired now to have a discussion on whether Wikipedia is keeping up with what it was intended for and whether it serves all communities well. The policy is that information needs to be verifiable and it's gonna stay like that until you start discussing the policy on relevant talk page.

No one here intends to be arrogant, aggressive to you or silence you. But even an open platform has it limits and ruleset as I mentioned before. You will find it very hard here when not accepting that. NJD-DE (talk) 01:59, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Please don't insult my intelligence. I, of course, do not think that Wikipedia is a place where people can do whatever they want. It is also not a place that was intended to be some "police state." You are tired. So am I. I am tired of this dictatorial faux ownership of this platform. Yes, the platform is diverse, but the people with whom I am dealing do not seem to be. Guidelines are just that--guidelines. Had we had a conversation before my information was removed, we would not be here. Respect is key. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sfreeman44 (talk • contribs) 21:03, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Message from Moatlhodi Nkwadzile (Jutas)

Stop editing people's information unnecessarily because you are removing information which was legally published by Wikipedia.Take time studying the information of a person you want to edit because if you upload fake information your account may be banned — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moatlhodi Nkwadzile (Jutas) (talk • contribs) 06:41, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Moatlhodi Nkwadzile (Jutas), I am not sure what you are referring to exactly. I can not have removed information that was published by Wikipedia as Wikipedia doesn't publish articles. It's users working on articles here. When accusing me of misbehavior please remember WP:AOBF before threatening me with a ban. Thanks. NJD-DE (talk) 12:29, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

KUJU ENTERTAINMENT RELIABLE SOURCE

Hi

My name is Asad Habib. I am the reliable source. An ex employee hired as Head of Quality from 2002 and 2011 with 9 years service. Every single item added wa actual fact with no exhagerration, lies or spin. Every single Kuju employee (300)would verify that as the truth.

Yours sincerely Asad Habib AsadHabibUnitedKingdom (talk) 02:50, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

AsadHabibUnitedKingdom, I was not doubting the factuality but I am sorry to tell you that your own testimony is not a reliable source for Wikipedia. Things have to be reported on by reliable sources in order to be able to include them in Wikipedia articles. If you wanna have a look at what that means have a look at this link WP:RS, as well as this one to understand why verifiability is so important here. NJD-DE (talk) 02:54, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

I will look at unlined citations to add them then the case is closed. AsadHabibUnitedKingdom (talk) 04:02, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Frank Nwachukwu Ndili

Hi, I noticed that you deleted changes I made to Professor Ndili's page. I made all those changes with direct communication with prof Frank Ndili and with his full permission. I am his personal biographer and you should not have deleted my changes. we will add references soon. You do not have insight into his life and cannot presume to delete the truth and allow falsehoods to be published. Please restore the changes immediately. That wa a lot of work that you erased without verifying from who was making the changes or asking for permission. Thank you.

Editor 20022 (talk) 18:15, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Editor 20022, I am sorry to tell you but this is not the way Wikipedia works. Only verifiable, with reliable sources referenced information should be added to articles. Even though the article is about a person doesn't mean that the person owns this article (WP:OWN). I didn't have to ask for any permission and I will not restore unsourced information.

Before continuing to edit please read the policies WP:COI and WP:PAID, and follow the appropriate steps to disclose the conflict of interest and paid editing. NJD-DE (talk) 18:34, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Removing external link

Hi Njd-de, I'm YuriNBZ and I received your message about removing my external link on Foo Fighters page. I also noticed you removed other edits that I made about referring to my website.

Could you please provide more details about this edit revert? My website (chordlines.com) has chords/tabs for musicians. — Preceding unsigned comment added by YuriNBZ (talk • contribs) 01:47, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi YuriNBZ, I have removed these links as they were unnecessary per the external links guideline. Also the nature of your edits seemed promotional which you just confirmed. However, Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion. – NJD-DE (talk) 08:41, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

I got your point, but it's not promotional, it has a huge value for musicians who want to play songs and don't know how to. Those links I included explain how to play those songs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by YuriNBZ (talk • contribs) 13:01, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Notable People phenomenon

I have noticed this too, do you have any idea where this started? Ifnord (talk) 20:56, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Ifnord, I learned more about it on the admin noticeboard: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Broad-based_spam_adding_non-notable_people. Apparently, someone uploaded a video on TikTok suggesting it's a great idea to add your name to your city's Wikipedia article.. NJD-DE (talk) 21:00, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

That's it. Thanks for pointing me towards it. Cheers. Ifnord (talk) 21:03, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

List of companies of the United Arab Emirates

Thanks NDJ-DE for the suggestion on The List of Companies in UAE. Would articles from notable sites like Bloomberg work in adding a company to the list? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Suri-Himanshu (talk • contribs) 15:02, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Suri-Himanshu, with article we don't mean a news article on Bloomberg, The National, etc. What is meant is that only notable companies that have an own Wikipedia article should be added. However, before creating articles now, please be aware of the rules on notability, conflict of interest and paid editing. Cheers, NJD-DE (talk) 15:08, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Reverting of changes made to Duris Maxwell's wikipedia page ...

Hi,

You'd reverted changes I had done to my father's wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duris_Maxwell. I understand why. I understand now I was in a conflict of interest (sorry, never used wikipedia before trying to make the changes). I totally don't understand what I need to do to update it and have the changes stick. Are you able to help? I've gone through the help and got lost.

There isn't an official obituary, but I'm working on that. I'd like my changes reverted. Thoughts?

Thanks for your time.

PS - yes, I know I probably did this wrong too. ;)

Unfortunatebiologicalson (talk) 15:49, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Unfortunatebiologicalson and welcome to Wikipedia. I am sorry to hear about your father's passing.

We have all been new on Wikipedia once so don't worry about making some mistakes. You have already done something right though which is that after noticing your edits were reverted, you tried to understand why.

Wikipedia has certain standards for living or recently deceased people which you can also find here: WP:BLP. Briefly said: content needs to be verifiable with reliable sources. Facebook pages are usually not considered as reliable source.

Unfortunately, I was not able to find any reliable sources in a search and not an expert on what to do now. However, someone else will see your edit request on the article talk page in a bit for sure. Most likely they will request reliable sources as well though to be able to verify your edit request. NJD-DE (talk) 16:09, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the time and direction. Unfortunatebiologicalson (talk) 16:18, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Welcome anytime. Ohh and one other thing Unfortunatebiologicalson. Some people might see concerns and question your intentions based on your username. NJD-DE (talk) 16:32, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, I see your point - it can be read in two ways, but there was no ill intent - meant it more along the lines that it's unfortunate that he passed, and I am his biological son. He had a smartass sense of humour, so would have laughed. The edits, however, had nothing malicions and were purely factural and to update things around his passing. Excellent point thought. Once I get some help (and an obit link from the funeral home), I may set up a less potentially controversial username. :) 174.91.150.100 (talk) 16:37, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Ahh, now I see that there is a second meaning to it. Rather than setting up a new account in that case, you could also ask for renaming your account: Wikipedia:Changing username. Of course, you can also keep your existing name. NJD-DE (talk) 16:43, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Silver mining

Hello dear Njd-de Sources from Persian Wikipedia page added There is also a specialized article on silver mining on the noghra site. https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A7%D8%AF%D9%86_%D8%A7%DB%8C%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iraniiiiiii (talk • contribs) 13:13, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello Iraniiiiiii, I have reverted your edits again as you added a promotional link to commercial website noghra.com which is not a reliable source. Also, the other reference fails verification as it's a dead URL and doesn't seem to be archived in a web-archive. NJD-DE (talk) 13:28, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

This site translates to Persian and examines silver mines in Iran— Preceding unsigned comment added by Iraniiiiiii (talk • contribs) 13:46, 31 January 2021 (UTC) According to available resources— Preceding unsigned comment added by Iraniiiiiii (talk • contribs) 13:47, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Which website are you referring to, Iraniiiiiii? The one you added under further reading is a webshop and doesn't fulfill requirements of a reliable source per WP:RS. NJD-DE (talk) 13:55, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

How is this site? https://eco.shafaqna.com/FA/258686/%D8%AA%D9%88%D9%84%DB%8C%D8%AF-%D9%81%D9%84%D8%B2-%D9%86%D9%82%D8%B1%D9%87-%D8%AF%D8%B1-%D8%A7%DB%8C%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86-%D9%88-%D8%AC%D9%87%D8%A7%D9%86/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iraniiiiiii (talk • contribs) 14:12, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Iraniiiiiii, I can't find anything about their editorial oversight, and their source seems to be the webshop منبع: نقرا ( noghra.com ). So not a reliable source. Try to find something about it in one of the reliable sources listed here: WP:RSPSRC.

Just in case you would like promote this shop: Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion – NJD-DE (talk) 14:23, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

about Jorkhali Page

	what resaons revert my info
	hi Md.Aftab Uddin Toufiq (talk) 18:26, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello Md.Aftab Uddin Toufiq, you can see my reasons in the edit summary [1] and for your convenience here: unsourced history, affiliation with Islamic Arabic University fails verification, unnecessary external links. In case of specific questions, feel free to ask me again. NJD-DE (talk) 18:32, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

about Jorkhali Page

	Brother Please See my page identity here i use reference then dlt my page
	Brother Please See my page identity here i use reference then dlt my page its and institute page .i am astonished for ur works ,, i request plz chk my references then approved my page thanks brother Hannanwiki457 (talk) 00:30, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Hannanwiki457, I am not sure whether you intended to post this message with an award. Next time a normal message will suffice too. In regards to your request I recommend you to have a look at the deletion discussion that took place previously. The result was delete due to lack of notability of the school and the impression that the article was created for promotional reasons. NJD-DE (talk) 00:51, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, at least tell why my edit is being removed every time.

Hello this info that is being added is legitimate. All the crew of this production will confirm this. If there is anything i am not providing you can tell me. I think last time i also included a link. thanks! Afroyorkers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Afroyorkers (talk • contribs) 17:49, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Afroyorkers, have a look in the page history. I explained my reason for reverting in the edit summary: Not providing a reliable source, and left you a message on your talkpage also explaining that you will need to provide a reliable source. Isento reverted your second addition as well, and his reasons in the edit summary were similar: avoid sources like retailers (WP:ALBUMS/SOURCE). - NJD-DE (talk) 18:34, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Furthermore, the musician isn't listed in the official credits, which Jaxsta purports to represent. And no other (purportedly) reliable source lists that musician, whose only credit at Jaxsta is called "other". isento (talk) 18:52, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks

Thankyou so much for the information Spacer16 (talk) 14:46, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Glad I could help you Spacer16. If you need more advice feel free to ask me, or you can also ask at the teahouse where you will be welcomed by other experienced users. Happy editing, NJD-DE (talk) 14:48, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

SWISS Name change

Good day. I understand the misinformation that people have regarding the airline SWISS. The company’s Name is spelled in capital letters. This is seen on the official website of Swiss International Air Lines. Nowhere is the name Swiss to be seen. Swiss can be a Swiss person or the adjective Swiss. This should not be confused with the airline SWISS. As you said the companies KLM and UBS are indeed written in capital letters, so is also the airline SWISS. It would be weird to see Klm or Ubs. It’s simply not right. Please check the facts on swiss.com for clarification. I’m not doing this for fun, I’m correcting the false name that is seen on Wikipedia. Please do not reverse the changes as the old format is completely false. Thank you WillXG (talk) 17:49, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello WillXG, please have a look at what I wrote on your talk page and then have a look again at the manual of style. KLM and UBS are written in all caps due to being abbreviations. Swiss however is not. NJD-DE (talk) 17:52, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Bitte seien Sie professionell..

Bitte bleib professionell und recherchier endlich mal. Ich habe Ihnen den Link zur Webseite mitgeteilt und Sie verhalten sich so, als wüssten Sie besser.. Geh bitte den Fakten nah und schau dass nicht so Unfug auf Wikipedia steht! Es geht hier nicht um den manuel of style! Sei nicht faul und recherchieren Sie bitte! WillXG (talk) 21:08, 7 February 2021 (UTC)