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:{{ping|331dot}} - My point is that Primefac blocked me improperly. He was [[Wikipedia:INVOLVED]]. Blocks are supposed to be preventative, not punitive. I had stopped editing drafts and was discussing at the talk page about G13 being useless. How does blocking me INDEFINITELY prevent anything? It doesn't, it's purely punishment. I ask that the block be reconsidered as it is a flagrant violation of policy. [[User:Ewalker33|Ewalker33]] ([[User talk:Ewalker33#top|talk]]) 13:56, 14 February 2021 (UTC) |
:{{ping|331dot}} - My point is that Primefac blocked me improperly. He was [[Wikipedia:INVOLVED]]. Blocks are supposed to be preventative, not punitive. I had stopped editing drafts and was discussing at the talk page about G13 being useless. How does blocking me INDEFINITELY prevent anything? It doesn't, it's purely punishment. I ask that the block be reconsidered as it is a flagrant violation of policy. [[User:Ewalker33|Ewalker33]] ([[User talk:Ewalker33#top|talk]]) 13:56, 14 February 2021 (UTC) |
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::I stand by my decline and I have nothing to add. You may make another unblock request, to be reviewed by a different administrator. If you convince them, they will unblock you, it's out of my hands now. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 14:02, 14 February 2021 (UTC) |
::I stand by my decline and I have nothing to add. You may make another unblock request, to be reviewed by a different administrator. If you convince them, they will unblock you, it's out of my hands now. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 14:02, 14 February 2021 (UTC) |
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{{unblock|See above - I was blocked by someone INVOLVED, and who I had asked to stop interacting with me as per [[Wikipedia:Harassment]]. Their block was punitive, not preventative, and goes against policy - I had not made ANY edits between the original block and the indefinite block apart from contributing to a discussion.}} |
Revision as of 14:09, 14 February 2021
Quick note
Your claim here about Firefly threatening you doesn't seem to be true; I'm not sure what part of their message made you think that was the case, but I doubt it was their intention. Additionally, you can't "forbid" someone to interact with you. You may be confusing that with another circumstance where you may request a user stay off your own talk page (and typically vice versa), but the only way a user is forbidden (by policy) to interact with another is through an interaction ban. These can only be imposed by the Arbitration Committee or by the Wikipedia community.
It would likely be more appropriate to just politely ask a user whom you wish not to interact with to not interact with you (and vice versa). Hopefully this helps clarify things. Perryprog (talk) 17:24, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
February 2021
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. Primefac (talk) 17:36, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
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Ewalker33 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I have been indefinitely blocked by someone I explicitly asked not to interact with me, as they were harassing me. They stated they would refrain from any future interactions, and then out of the blue blocked me indefinitely for nothing. I have not edited since I was blocked from editing drafts other than to participate in a discussion. They say I am not here to build an encyclopedia, but that is precisely what I'm trying to do by preventing drafts from being deleted. I have not been given a chance to do anything constructive, because this admin went against their word to block me out of the blue purely because they didn't like what I was doing. That is entirely unacceptable, and smacks of admins protecting their e-friends at the expense of new contributors. Ewalker33 (talk) 17:48, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Primefac said they would avoid non-admin contact with you. There AFAIK is no formal interaction ban in effect preventing them from any interaction whatsoever with you. I don't agree that gaming policies to make a point improves the encyclopedia, especially in draft space. I had some sympathy for you nevertheless until you tossed around the protective cabal accusation, which I find repugnant. I don't protect anyone, and I want everyone to participate within the bounds of guidelines. I am declining your request. 331dot (talk) 20:17, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
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@Primefac: I recommend you undo the block before someone else reverses it for you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ewalker33 (talk • contribs) 18:14, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- What software were you using to undo all those deletion tags? SQLQuery me! 18:16, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- Also, pings don't work if you don't sign your posts. I'll help you out here. @Primefac:. SQLQuery me! 18:17, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks SQL, I've got the page watchlisted from here. Primefac (talk) 18:26, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- @SQL: I wasn't removing any deletion tags. Ewalker33 (talk) 18:36, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- I'm sorry - I mis-spoke. Let's try again. What software were you using to rapidly do this? SQLQuery me! 18:41, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- Also, pings don't work if you don't sign your posts. I'll help you out here. @Primefac:. SQLQuery me! 18:17, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- I'll leave the unblock request for another admin, but you'll note that I said I would refrain from any non-admin interaction with you. When you immediately turn around and say a) you'll go right back to your disruptive editing after the block expires, and b) tell four users that you're "banning them" from interacting with you (on a discussion page!) it's clear you're not here to improve the encyclopedia (because that would involve actually having discussions with people). Primefac (talk) 18:25, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
- @331dot: - My point is that Primefac blocked me improperly. He was Wikipedia:INVOLVED. Blocks are supposed to be preventative, not punitive. I had stopped editing drafts and was discussing at the talk page about G13 being useless. How does blocking me INDEFINITELY prevent anything? It doesn't, it's purely punishment. I ask that the block be reconsidered as it is a flagrant violation of policy. Ewalker33 (talk) 13:56, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
- I stand by my decline and I have nothing to add. You may make another unblock request, to be reviewed by a different administrator. If you convince them, they will unblock you, it's out of my hands now. 331dot (talk) 14:02, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
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