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As of the date of this Talk comment, this article says that one notable son (Robert Harley) of this article's subject (Edward Harley), was, later, Earl of Oxford. That's wrong. Robert Harley was created "1st Earl of Oxford and Earl Mortimer", which is ONE Earldom. Similarly the title "Earl of Oxford and Asquith" is ONE Earldom. Wikipedia |
As of the date of this Talk comment, this article says that one notable son (Robert Harley) of this article's subject (Edward Harley), was, later, Earl of Oxford. That's wrong. Robert Harley was created "1st Earl of Oxford and Earl Mortimer", which is ONE Earldom. Similarly the title "Earl of Oxford and Asquith" created later is ONE Earldom. Wikipedia contradicts itself on whether the Earldom of Oxford is extinct or is dormant. But the article on the title itself consistently says dormant, not extinct. Most likely is that it is considered dormant, because if it could be locked down that it went extinct when the last title-holder died then the Crown wouldn't have balked at re-using the name. The problem with re-using the name when you aren't CERTAIN that a title is extinct is that the 1st Earl of Oxford could for all we know have a living descendant (male-line if need be) who would, if he attempted it, succeed at claiming the older title, and then you'd have two Earls of Oxford at the same time. This is not NEVER done (Earl of Mar), but the Crown would like it to be as rare as possible.[[Special:Contributions/2603:7000:9906:A91C:1C64:8308:33BC:E2D6|2603:7000:9906:A91C:1C64:8308:33BC:E2D6]] ([[User talk:2603:7000:9906:A91C:1C64:8308:33BC:E2D6|talk]]) 23:05, 21 February 2021 (UTC)Christopher L. Simpson |
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As of the date of this Talk comment, this article says that one notable son (Robert Harley) of this article's subject (Edward Harley), was, later, Earl of Oxford. That's wrong. Robert Harley was created "1st Earl of Oxford and Earl Mortimer", which is ONE Earldom. Similarly the title "Earl of Oxford and Asquith" created later is ONE Earldom. Wikipedia contradicts itself on whether the Earldom of Oxford is extinct or is dormant. But the article on the title itself consistently says dormant, not extinct. Most likely is that it is considered dormant, because if it could be locked down that it went extinct when the last title-holder died then the Crown wouldn't have balked at re-using the name. The problem with re-using the name when you aren't CERTAIN that a title is extinct is that the 1st Earl of Oxford could for all we know have a living descendant (male-line if need be) who would, if he attempted it, succeed at claiming the older title, and then you'd have two Earls of Oxford at the same time. This is not NEVER done (Earl of Mar), but the Crown would like it to be as rare as possible.2603:7000:9906:A91C:1C64:8308:33BC:E2D6 (talk) 23:05, 21 February 2021 (UTC)Christopher L. Simpson