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Spain

New president of Spanish broadcaster RTVE José Manuel Pérez Tornero has made statements to the press regarding the Eurovision Song Contest (https://www.elespanol.com/bluper/20210602/toros-eurovision-europeo-netflix-titulares-presidente-rtve/585942821_0.html), stating that they are "going to take Eurovision very seriously" for various reasons, firstly because "it is a show that enjoys success", and secondly because they are "the only broadcaster in Spain that is part of the EBU". He has also stated they are interested in the event "because of its european nature, of contact with youth". I don't know if it can be taken as a direct confirmation of participation in the 2022 Contest, but maybe the information can be included in the "Other countries" section. Baskesc (talk) 19:04, 2 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, perhaps it should be mentioned under 'Active EBU members'? 81.149.243.201 (talk) 12:24, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Possible Scotland?

Maybe under non-EBU?

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/local-news/snp-mp-calls-scotland-eurovision-24183419 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.69.236.108 (talk) 21:53, 8 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I don't get why it keeps getting removed. It is relevant to the contest. ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 23:46, 8 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

From what I could see in a quick look through some search engine results, it’s just one Scottish politician who is saying this, as a reaction to the fact of the UK getting zero points in 2021. I would live for Scotland to make its own entry in the competition, but there would need to be something more significant than a politician’s comment to warrant inclusion in this article IMO. Ironically, the Fire Saga film it kind-of implies that Scotland is a standalone entry, since it’s being hosted in Edinburgh and the Russian character remarks that “everybody hates UK, so, zero points”. So, how could it be hosted in Scotland if UK didn’t win last year UNLESS Scotland was its own entry. But… that’s just a fan theory! :-) Witty lama 10:12, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Can we say that Belarus won't participate?

The EBU nor any reliable source has confirmed their non-participation. Although I agree that it's unlikely they'll still participate after the suspension, stating so definitively is I think original research. ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 12:08, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Belarus doesn't come 2022 Kematen (talk) 13:13, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Kematen: did you even read my comment? Can you cite a reliable source? ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 13:53, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ESC 2022 Map

It seems that someone is having fun changing the map and the territories, can someone please update me on the Crimea problem, because one of the participants is constantly changing it. See here. Regards. Kirilloparma (talk) 12:38, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

He also added that Belarus is not participating in the 2022 edition without providing any reliable sources. See here Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 12:48, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Belarus has been excluded from the EBU. Kematen (talk) 12:54, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not bothered or anything. That is clear. It is so that Belarus has been deprived of its rights to participate by the EBU because of the political situation. And Crimea is really tricky. I know. But the people of Crimea voted to become part of the Russian Federation. Kematen (talk) 12:59, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The head of the electoral commission, Mikhail Malyshev, announced a preliminary result that 95.5 percent of the votes cast were in favor of the reunification of Crimea with Russia with the rights of a subject of the Russian Federation. For a restoration of the validity of the 1992 Constitution of the Republic of Crimea and for Crimea's status as part of Ukraine, 3.5 percent voted and 1.0 percent were invalid ballot papers. The turnout was around 82 percent. Kematen (talk) 13:11, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The head of the electoral commission, Mikhail Malyshev, announced a preliminary result that 95.5 percent of the votes cast were in favor of the reunification of Crimea with Russia with the rights of a subject of the Russian Federation. For a restoration of the validity of the 1992 Constitution of the Republic of Crimea and for Crimea's status as part of Ukraine, 3.5 percent voted and 1.0 percent were invalid ballot papers. The turnout was around 82 percent.

Link: https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Referendum_%C3%BCber_den_Status_der_Krim Kematen (talk) 13:13, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kirilloparma. Are these not enough sources ??? Are you leaving me alone now? It really is like that. I'm not stupid and post something wrong on Wikipedia. I've never done that before. And it always bothers me the most when I put something real on Wikipedia and then I'm banned, even though it's true and the other person is just too stupid to google or read in newspapers. Kematen (talk) 13:18, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

At the very least, don't edit war over it. It achieves nothing. ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 13:54, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Kematen: Regarding Belarus it's original reasearch. Could you please provide reliable source that clearly confirms Belarus non-participation?
All previous Eurovision maps (see examples File:ESC 2021 Map.svg, File:ESC 2020 Map.svg, File:ESC 2019 Map.svg, File:ESC 2018 Map.svg) included Crimea as other country and then you came from nowhere and again raised this controversial topic, I'm sorry, but it's not up to you to decide here, the consensus of the project will decide, stop changing maps and territories. And please, no personal attacks (see diff [1]), you are warned. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 13:58, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't attack you, Kirilloparma. Why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kematen (talk • contribs) 14:03, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Even though it's true and the other person is just too stupid to google or read in newspapers

Are you sure about this? Once again, no personal attacks please. Regards Kirilloparma (talk) 14:19, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

United Kingdom and Jessie J rumours

According to the Metro and others, there are reports circulating that the pop star Jessie J might participate for the United Kingdom in 2022.^[1] Would it be too soon to include a mention of this within the article, or would this be appropriate to add? Siclika (talk) 16:09, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

These kinds of rumours are normally not even mentioned in the country-specific articles, let alone the main article. ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 22:47, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Estonia confirmation

@Sammyham84: it's happened before that a television show that used to be the country's national final gets turned into its own thing (a recent example is A Dal 2020). We really need an explicit confirmation that the country will participate in Eurovision; a national final is not enough. So that's why I think Estonia should be removed. ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 19:08, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Eesti laul is one of the National finals that only take place if Estonia participate like shows like Melodi grad Prix or Melodifestival which are created to chose for however Shows like Festivali i Këngës or X factor Malta are not made specifically to select for Eurovision I don’t think it should be removed as we had this in the past 2 years talk page and I feel like that it is nessary to leave country that confirmed National selections on the page and if the National selection was not created for Eurovision that we wait for offical comfirmation Sammyham84 (talk) 16:17, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

^ Adejobi, Alicia (2021-06-13). "Jessie J 'approached' by Eurovision 2022 bosses to represent UK". Metro. Retrieved 13 June 2021.

[1] Adejobi, Alicia (2021-06-13). "Jessie J 'approached' by Eurovision 2022 bosses to represent UK". Metro. Retrieved 13 June 2021.

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	{{Ping\|Sammyham84}} it's happened before that a television show that used to be the country's national final gets turned into its own thing (a recent example is [[A Dal 2020]]). We really need an explicit confirmation that the country will participate in Eurovision; a national final is not enough. So that's why I think Estonia should be removed. &horbar;[[User:Jochem van Hees\|Jochem van Hees]] ([[User talk:Jochem van Hees\|talk]]) 19:08, 19 June 2021 (UTC)		{{Ping\|Sammyham84}} it's happened before that a television show that used to be the country's national final gets turned into its own thing (a recent example is [[A Dal 2020]]). We really need an explicit confirmation that the country will participate in Eurovision; a national final is not enough. So that's why I think Estonia should be removed. &horbar;[[User:Jochem van Hees\|Jochem van Hees]] ([[User talk:Jochem van Hees\|talk]]) 19:08, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

			:Eesti laul is one of the National finals that only take place if Estonia participate like shows like Melodi grad Prix or Melodifestival which are created to chose for however Shows like Festivali i Këngës or X factor Malta are not made specifically to select for Eurovision I don’t think it should be removed as we had this in the past 2 years talk page and I feel like that it is nessary to leave country that confirmed National selections on the page and if the National selection was not created for Eurovision that we wait for offical comfirmation [[User:Sammyham84\|Sammyham84]] ([[User talk:Sammyham84\|talk]]) 16:17, 20 June 2021 (UTC)