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== Neutrality ==
== Neutrality ==
I've added a NPOV template to the page, and citation tags. This article reads like an advertisement for "Third-Wave Coffee," needs clearer language, and better sources. [[User:Bob bobato|theBOBbobato]] ([[User talk:Bob bobato|talk]]) 20:04, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
I've added a NPOV template to the page, and citation tags. This article reads like an advertisement for "Third-Wave Coffee," needs clearer language, and better sources. [[User:Bob bobato|theBOBbobato]] ([[User talk:Bob bobato|talk]]) 20:04, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

== North America centric ==

This page is very North America centric, which isn't a problem in itself, the problem is that it never acknowledges that and never relates the coffee culture it describes to the coffee culture in other parts of the world. Instead it reads as if it were describing a universal phenomenon.

A more accurate term would be something like "Third wave of coffee in North America"

Other countries, even other western countries (eg. Australia, Italy, Norway) have their own coffee culture completely distinct from the US.

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Characteristics

I am considering adding a section on characteristics that would clarify what qualifies as "third wave" coffee. Some parts of the second paragraph could be expanded. Information would include general roasting techniques, brewing equipment, characteristics of third wave shops, and comparisons to other schools of thought within the specialty coffee movement. Any objections? Markjohnson303 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:58, 28 November 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Like wine?

The claim that wine is by nature artisinal is untrue. Much wine that is produced is very much a commodity. There should be another means of conveying this aspect of the definition of third wave coffee. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.24.187.184 (talk) 00:43, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

surely the first difference is that grapes aren't harvested in 3rd world nations by unskilled labour. I'm not sure that wine is produced as a "commodity", pretty sure any winemaker would absolutely disagree, even Americans. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.222.81.70 (talk) 11:41, 4 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Peets and Third Wave

I am about to delete the claim that Peets has anything to do with Third Wave. I have always thought of it was second wave, long before the idea of 3rd wave existed, and an article like this seems to agree that it, like Starbucks is 2nd, not 3rd wave. --David Tornheim (talk) 22:06, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Neutrality

I've added a NPOV template to the page, and citation tags. This article reads like an advertisement for "Third-Wave Coffee," needs clearer language, and better sources. theBOBbobato (talk) 20:04, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

North America centric

This page is very North America centric, which isn't a problem in itself, the problem is that it never acknowledges that and never relates the coffee culture it describes to the coffee culture in other parts of the world. Instead it reads as if it were describing a universal phenomenon.

A more accurate term would be something like "Third wave of coffee in North America"

Other countries, even other western countries (eg. Australia, Italy, Norway) have their own coffee culture completely distinct from the US.