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List of missing topics about food[edit]

My list of missing topics about food is updated - Skysmith (talk) 13:45, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Wheat mildew[edit]

Wheat mildew is a bot-generated article whose only reference is Household Cyclopedia. The article is terribly out of date and was tagged for 'tone' in 2007. In my opinion, its only interest is historical (and the history of housekeeping or wheat belongs elsewhere). Perhaps this article should be made into a redirect to Wheat diseases or Blumeria graminis. Any opinions/suggestions? Leschnei (talk) 19:56, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Would you like access to Bloomsbury Food Library?[edit]

Hi everyone. The Wikipedia Library provides access to a number of collections from Bloomsbury, who enquired whether there would be any interest in adding Bloomsbury Food Library to the partnership, so I thought I'd come here to find out! The library contains 75 ebooks and food encyclopedias, among other resources. If you edit food and drink articles, would these resources be of use to you? Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 18:58, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Nutritional value tables[edit]

Hey, I noticed many nutritional value tables have values for cooked/prepared foods, even for basic ingredients, for example adzuki bean. Is there any reason/guideline for this? As ways of preparing food can vary, and it isn't known how the food the values are given for was prepared, these are probably not as useful as values for raw, uncooked food would be. --62.165.209.8 (talk) 12:45, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

The guideline in place is that the information should come from a reliable source which Wikipedia identifies with a citation. At the bottom of the box you can see that this information comes from the United States Department of Agriculture. Since they are the best authority that anyone in Wikipedia has identified, then Wikipedia presents the information in the way that this organization does.
If you have ideas and information for a better way of presenting information then share it. There is no obligation to fix everything but if you have something to say to advance the discussion then talk it through with a foundation in what the best available sources do. Wikipedia will never be better than the information which users find published elsewhere. Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:37, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
I'm saying that if it's an article about such a basic food ingredient then the nutritional table should also be about the most basic, raw, uncooked version. There are many ways to prepare such food and giving the nutritional values of only one of these isn't really informative. Values for cooked food should be avoided unless the article itself is about the cooked version.
Nothing against the USDA, they seem to have data for raw adzuki beans, too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.143.40.221 (talk) 23:22, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Soul food[edit]

A pretty bad article, anyone want to improve it? Doug Weller talk 11:18, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

I have plenty of food and drink photographs how I can help?[edit]

Hi guys I am new here I can provide all the photographs we need for this project. Please guide me here, One way I know is to upload them on wikimedia is that okay? or I should upload somewhere else. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Govindduc (talkcontribs) 22:01, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Well done for wanting to get involved Govindduc! The best place for you to upload the images is indeed Wikimedia Commons, as the images are then available for use here and across all language versions of Wikipedia. The upload wizard (link here) is pretty self-explanatory. Tips I'd give are to make sure that there is enough detail in the file name and description, and to scout around to see what appropriate categories (e.g. start at Category:Food) the images should be filed in before you upload as it is a lot easier to add the category tags at upload (although it can be done later too). Feel free to drop me a message or reply here if you need any more help. Pyrope 09:40, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

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Franklin and Sons Soft Drinks company.[edit]

There wasnt a page for this company but I have created a stub page for it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_and_sons I am not up with editing wiki articles and I also dont have the time. I wanted to bring it to the attention of the wiki community though, so that someone with the time who more capable could create it and link it into the relevant areas of Wikipedia. The company's website is https://www.globalbrands.co.uk/brands/franklin-and-sons-soft-drinks Lotrjw (talk) 16:11, 30 September 2018 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Lotrjw (talkcontribs) 14:28, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

World Heritage Cuisine Summit 2018 Edit-a-thon[edit]

Gobindgarh Fort, Amritsar
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Hello folks, my friends Satdeep Gill and Wikilover90 from Punjabi Wikimedians User Group are organising an online edit-a-thon in collaboration with World Heritage Cuisine Summit 2018. More than 40 Chefs from all around the world will be presenting their exotic and unique dishes at the historic Gobindgarh Fort in Amritsar, India, during 12–14 October 2018. The summit itself is an initiative of the World Cultural Culinary Heritage Committee of the World Association of Chefs Societies or WorldChefs. Join hands with us to take part in this campaign to create content about some dishes that are to be featured at this summit. These articles will be presented in the form of QR Codes at the summit. We will later be adding QR Codes to the dishes made by celebrity chefs from 40 countries. We've created a list of articles for focus. This list has several dishes which are yet to have articles on English Wikipedia, and also many them need significant expansion. You can pickup one article, and sign-up indicating that under the "English Wikipedia" section under the first section of the page. So we welcome the members of WikiProject Food and drink to help us with these articles, and make this a successful endeavour. This edit-a-thon runs from 1 October to 15 October 2018. Also do add yourself to the participants page. Thanks, KCVelaga (talk) 14:06, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

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Anyone want to create an article on Sweet Jesus Ice Cream[edit]

Voodoo Doughnut mentions it as being harassed by the right, and if you Google it you'll find quite a bit of publicity both for that and the business[1] itself. Doug Weller talk 10:22, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Article need improving: Coffee flour[edit]

Hi there! I'm new to Wikipedia and I'm doing this for a uni assignment. I've just recently submitted an article titled "Coffee flour" out of the "requested articles" list. Because English is not my first language, I desperately need help with the article. I'm asking for reviews here because the article is most closely related to this WikiProject. So, it would be great if someone can kindly review my article, perhaps check the style, grammar, and structure of it. Thanks so much! Evkgoh (talk) 23:06, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

HELP WANTED[edit]

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For a number of years we have been experiencing a steady decline in the number of administrators as a result of attrition and a declining number of editors willing to consider adminship. Things have reached a point where we are starting to experience chronic backlogs in important areas of the project including noticeboards, requests for closure, SPI, CSD & etc. If you are an experienced editor with around two years (or more) of tenure, 10k edits give or take and no record of seriously disruptive behavior, please consider if you might be willing to help out the community by becoming an administrator. The community can only function as well as we all are willing to participate. If you are interested start by reading WP:MOP and WP:RFAADVICE. Then go to WP:ORCP and open a discussion. Over the next few days experienced editors will take a look at your record and let you know what they think your chances are of passing RfA (the three most terrifying letters on Wikipedia) as well as provide you with feedback on areas that might be of concern and how to prepare yourself. Lastly you can find a list of experienced editors who may be willing to nominate you here. Finally, I may not have this page on my watchlist, so if you want to reply to me directly please ping me. Thank you and happy editing... -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:42, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

Question about the best way to get the right people's attention[edit]

Clodagh McKenna Google Google News Amazon is an Irish celebrity chef who doesn't have an entry in Wikipedia. Where is the best place to get good food/chef editors to take a look and make a judgment about whether we should have one? Obviously I could go to a general place like WP:AFC but I was thinking a more food-specific venue might be better?--Jimbo Wales (talk) 21:54, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

@Jimbo Wales: In general, high traffic pages work better. I only read this because I wanted to check if you had been active recently.
Maybe ping some editors from Category:WikiProject Food and drink members? @Davey2010, Fransplace, AmericanAir88, Northamerica1000, and Peter K Burian: just some users from that category. - Alexis Jazz 22:19, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
@Jimbo Wales: I don't know if the following is the best place, but specific requests are sometimes placed at Wikipedia:Requested articles/Arts and entertainment § Food, drink, and nutrition. North America1000 22:29, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the ping, Personally I would say she may well be notable enough for an article but I've never created an article from scratch so I too would suggest the same venue as NA1k but ofcourse if anyone here did want to create one I obviously wouldn't have any objections to that. –Davey2010Talk 22:46, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
@Davey2010: you haven't? I'm surprised! Luckily, I have no shame to create stubs and let wiki magic do it's thing. What's also interesting is that this is first time I've encountered a subject that is notable, Wikipedia doesn't have an article about but Everipedia does. I didn't use any of it though.. no sources (or they don't work, their site is broken), but it might serve as inspiration.
@Jimbo Wales: Clodagh McKenna. Also d:Q58325707 and some related items. Are you in the position to meet her IRL? If so, whip out your phone next time and take a picture. We don't have any yet and there is none to be found. - Alexis Jazz 10:43, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
@Alexis Jazz: Thanks for creating the new article. North America1000 10:33, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

The origin of Hainanese chicken rice[edit]

Please visit the discussion and give your opinion on the origin of Hainanese chicken rice. Many thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:08, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Featured quality source review RFC[edit]

Editors in this WikiProject may be interested in the featured quality source review RFC that has been ongoing. It would change the featured article candidate process (FAC) so that source reviews would need to occur prior to any other reviews for FAC. Your comments are appreciated. --IznoRepeat (talk) 21:39, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Similar products - Interwiki[edit]

Dumpling describes a class of similar products and is linked to German de:Teigtasche. But French fr:Raviole contains only few lines. Template fr:Modèle:Palette Raviolis is quite general.Xx236 (talk) 12:28, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Cabbage stew isn't interlinked. It's allegedly a part of Austrian cuisine, so what is the German name? Eintopf?Xx236 (talk) 12:44, 10 December 2018 (UTC)4
German for Cabbage stew is Kohleintopf. Kohl means cabbage and stew means Eintopf. But there is no German article for "Kohleintopf". Best Conandcon (talk) 18:46, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Margarine[edit]

Dear all,

On behalf of Upfield, I’ve been working on a suggestion for a well-sourced update for the margarine article. In general, I am making suggestions for the introduction, history, nutrition section and after a kind advice by User Spintendo also for the section manufacturing process as the content of the latter section in today's article is largely plagarized. I am suggesting these changes to include further information and update information in the light of recent developments and research.

You can see my proposed draft in my user space. I also created a commented version where I explain what suggestions I made and why. Please find this version here

I was mandated by Upfield as it is important for a margarine manufacturer that the highly frequented Wikipedia article about Margarine is well structured, sourced and includes the most up to date information. In addition, there was important historical information missing and other information wrong or too abbreviated – e.g. Hippolyte selling his patent to a Dutch company or why Napoleon was looking for an alternative to butter (see below). For Upfield it was also important that the article describes the developments of margarine from its invention until today sufficiently. As margarine is going through a continuous development regarding its nutrients while new studies and research as well as official governmental bodies advisements on the consumption of nutrients enhances, it is important that these developments are reflected and based on the most recent findings and advisements. Respective updates were therefore made in the suggestions.

As I do have a financial conflict of interest, since I'm making this suggestion on behalf of Upfield as part of my work as a private consultant, I suggested my ideas for the article on its talk page. I now understand that editors active in this portal might be the right persons to talk to in this matter.

Please note, that all my suggestions follow NPOV and do not additionally mention Upfield or their products (some products where mentioned in the article before)!

I would be delighted, if interested editors could review the suggestions and take live changes as appropriate. Let me know if you have any questions or if I can do anything else that helps you to better evaluate my suggestions.

I am looking forward to your feedback. Conandcon (talk) 18:40, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Articles_for_deletion/Mitra_Samaja[edit]

I request people from this portal to share their observations about this notable restaurant:-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mitra_Samaja

This article of the restaurant is pointlessly becoming a target of one person just because I improved the article from spam. NavjotSR (talk) 15:37, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Notability for chefs[edit]

Hello. Would a chef with two Michelin stars be notable to pass GNG, or not please? Just wondering if it is worth creating Josiah Citrin. Please ping me when you reply. Thanks!Zigzig20s (talk) 06:45, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

need third opinion about DoorDash food delivery service[edit]

The argument is with an IP address with few edits in their history, who wishes to remove my mention of the Better Business Bureau report on this business. [2] The conversation is at Talk:DoorDash. Need a third opinion please. Dream Focus 03:36, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

HELP![edit]

Will somebody other than me please tell Sampyche that 'chouriço' is indeed a word, and that to remove it they would need a RELIABLE source that actually says it isn't? They keep removing it, and citing as a 'source' some EU document about the production of sausage in Spain. Sumanuil (talk) 20:15, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Stop harrasing me and lying, please. Nobody here are said that chouriço is not a word and i didn't modified the portuguese variant below. I just noted that chorizo is a product of spanish origin recogniced by the European Union. The portuguese name derives from the spanish one, similiar to galician, catalan, asturianu, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sampyche (talkcontribs) 22:53, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

I'm not lying. I just see no reason to remove it, especially when you cite a source that doesn't mention the names. That might be a good source for elsewhere on the page, but it doesn't justify your changes. Also, if my edits are going to be labeled 'harassment', 'vandalism', and 'lies', then I seriously wonder what constitutes a decent edit these days. Sumanuil (talk) 00:00, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Language boxes in food articles?[edit]

Is it normal to add unsourced language boxes to food articles. Pls see Talk:Tofu#Language box spam.--Moxy (talk) 21:18, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

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Need some help with a new article[edit]

I just created G-Fuel, a very VERY popular energy drink. Need some help working on it. AdrianWikiEditor (talk) 21:39, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

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Mixed peel[edit]

The Mixed peel redirect, which currently targets Succade, has been nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 February 18#Mixed peel. It seems that this common British ingredient is not currently mentioned anywhere. Please share your thoughts at the discussion linked above. Thryduulf (talk) 11:44, 18 February 2019 (UTC)