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	Scouting portal União dos Escoteiros do Brasil is part of the Scouting WikiProject, an effort to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to Scouting and Guiding on the Wikipedia. This includes but is not limited to boy and girl organizations, WAGGGS and WOSM organizations as well as those not so affiliated, country and region-specific topics, and anything else related to Scouting. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.ScoutingWikipedia:WikiProject ScoutingTemplate:WikiProject ScoutingScouting articles
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Requested move

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was NO CONSENSUS to move page. Moving it back while waiting for a discussion to conclude would be a purely procedural move, so it's better to leave it where it is until a definite consensus is reached. Then this and similar pages can all be moved at once, if necessary. -GTBacchus^(talk) 03:30, 3 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The English translation does not comply with WP:UE since it is not commonly used; generally Scouting organization are referred to by the "native" names by both world Scouting bodies (WOSM and WAGGGS). English translations given by these institutions are only for understanding and differ even on the same website. For more details see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Scouting/Translations. This article and the following examples were moved to an unsourced translation by an possible sockpuppet without relevant contribution on the discussion; after the move the mover vandalized the redirects so that they can't be overwritten. --jergen 10:42, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Furtheron the translation is unofficial and onla used by WOSM. A literal translation would be Scout Union of Brazil. --jergen 11:02, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Move back to name the org itself uses-nobody authorized the sockpuppet to move these, since the vote was leaning toward keeping the native name. Chris 19:36, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose moving the name from the English name. This is the best name for the English version of Wikipedia. --evrik ^(talk) 22:41, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose moving - leave it here. I think the nominator misunderstands policy. -- Beardo 15:14, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - this seems to be a dispute between two users. They and the rest of the Scouting Wikiproject should sort out what they think policy should be and then come back to the wider community. -- Beardo 15:14, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment as the move by ES was disruptive and un-agreed, the article should move back to the original name until the issue at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Scouting/Translations is settled. Then it should stay there or be moved depending on the mediation outcome. Rlevse 18:53, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose English terms should be preferred unless it is problematic to produce a reliable translation, which is not the case here. The foreign name isn't even recognizable as the name of a scouting body. Sumahoy 21:58, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
OpposeEnglish Subtitle 22:10, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

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 The English translation does not comply with [[WP:UE]] since it is not commonly used; generally Scouting organization are referred to by the "native" names by both world Scouting bodies ([[WOSM]] and [[WAGGGS]]). English translations given by these institutions are only for understanding and differ even on the same website. For more details see [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Scouting/Translations]]. This article and the following examples were moved to an unsourced translation by an possible sockpuppet without relevant contribution on the discussion; after the move the mover vandalized the redirects so that they can't be overwritten. --[[User:Jergen|jergen]] 10:42, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 : Furtheron the translation is unofficial and onla used by WOSM. A literal translation would be ''Scout Union of Brazil''. --[[User:Jergen|jergen]] 11:02, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
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 *'''Oppose''' English terms should be preferred unless it is problematic to produce a reliable translation, which is not the case here. The foreign name isn't even recognizable as the name of a scouting body. [[User:Sumahoy|Sumahoy]] 21:58, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
 *'''Oppose'''[[User:English Subtitle|English Subtitle]] 22:10, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
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