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*'''Keep'''. It's an adequately-written article about what certainly ''was'' a notable road. And there's nothing that requires a highway article to be limited to only numbered routes: the [[province of Ontario]] alone has [[:Category:Expressways in Canada|six]]. [[User:AlgaeGraphix|AlgaeGraphix]] ([[User talk:AlgaeGraphix|talk]]) 00:42, 26 March 2022 (UTC) |
*'''Keep'''. It's an adequately-written article about what certainly ''was'' a notable road. And there's nothing that requires a highway article to be limited to only numbered routes: the [[province of Ontario]] alone has [[:Category:Expressways in Canada|six]]. [[User:AlgaeGraphix|AlgaeGraphix]] ([[User talk:AlgaeGraphix|talk]]) 00:42, 26 March 2022 (UTC) |
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:*{{re|AlgaeGraphix}} Sources. Where are they? I couldn't find a single one. <span style="color:green">'''Ten Pound Hammer'''</span> • <sup>([[User talk:TenPoundHammer|What did I screw up now?]])</sup> 00:44, 26 March 2022 (UTC) |
:*{{re|AlgaeGraphix}} Sources. Where are they? I couldn't find a single one. <span style="color:green">'''Ten Pound Hammer'''</span> • <sup>([[User talk:TenPoundHammer|What did I screw up now?]])</sup> 00:44, 26 March 2022 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep'''. The renaming of "Airport Expressway" to the less descriptive, but honorary "Sam Jones Express" elicits enough confusion that information seekers will want to know what and why. Sources include: |
*'''Keep'''. The renaming of "Airport Expressway" to the less descriptive, but honorary "Sam Jones Express" elicits enough confusion that information seekers will want to know what and why. Sources include: |
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** IBJ on renaming: https://www.ibj.com/articles/8526-airport-expressway-renamed-for-sam-jones |
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** Study citing the expressway for unusually high traffic levels: https://docs.lib.purdue.edu/jtrpaffdocs/43/ |
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** Report with figure dating construction of new ramps: https://docs.lib.purdue.edu/imr/4/ |
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** Indianapolis International Airport Master Plan Development, 1992. Describes growing traffic problems and need for redevelopment: https://www.google.com/books/edition/Indianapolis_International_Airport_Maste/5vw0AQAAMAAJ |
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** History of the Interstate Highway System in Indiana: Route history, 1975. Describes some factors in decision making leading to creation: https://www.google.com/books/edition/History_of_the_Interstate_Highway_System/By0pAQAAMAAJ*: |
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** 1969 City Council ordinance renaming a section of Raymond Street to "Airport Expressway": https://journals.iupui.edu/index.php/ccci/article/download/11903/11937 |
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** Entry describing reason for renaming to Sam Jones Expressway: https://indyencyclopedia.org/sam-h-jones/ |
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No results in GBooks or GNews. Searches in the Indianapolis papers for both the current and former names only yielded brief construction blurbs or businesses using it as a point of reference. This is a barely two-mile stretch of road that's called "freeway" only because it has exit ramps. It doesn't have a state highway number or any significance, and therefore seems to fail WP:USRD/NT Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 22:12, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 22:12, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Indiana-related deletion discussions. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 22:12, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep WP:N doesn't expire just because the road has been depreciated; still an active road, despite most of its use now being as a local road rather than an airport spur, and the only reason it has no state designation is because of the state's policy of having no numbered roads outside I-65 and I-70 within the 465 loop. Nate • (chatter) 22:41, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Mrschimpf: It never had a state highway designation to my knowledge. And that still doesn't address the absolute lack of sources. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 23:00, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- Have found this source which discusses its history in detail back to 1960; "airport expressway" + "indianapolis" unearths some other quality links (which lead to newspapers.com; my WPL access shows there's plenty more in the Star discussing its history. Nate • (chatter) 04:13, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Mrschimpf: The blog appears to be a self published source. I combed through every hit for "airport expressway" + "Indianapolis" on newspapers.com and all I found was trivial mentions or business ads using it as a point of reference. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 20:09, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. It's an adequately-written article about what certainly was a notable road. And there's nothing that requires a highway article to be limited to only numbered routes: the province of Ontario alone has six. AlgaeGraphix (talk) 00:42, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- @AlgaeGraphix: Sources. Where are they? I couldn't find a single one. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:44, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. The renaming of "Airport Expressway" to the less descriptive, but honorary "Sam Jones Express" elicits enough confusion that information seekers will want to know what and why. Sources include:
- IBJ on renaming: https://www.ibj.com/articles/8526-airport-expressway-renamed-for-sam-jones
- Study citing the expressway for unusually high traffic levels: https://docs.lib.purdue.edu/jtrpaffdocs/43/
- Report with figure dating construction of new ramps: https://docs.lib.purdue.edu/imr/4/
- Indianapolis International Airport Master Plan Development, 1992. Describes growing traffic problems and need for redevelopment: https://www.google.com/books/edition/Indianapolis_International_Airport_Maste/5vw0AQAAMAAJ
- History of the Interstate Highway System in Indiana: Route history, 1975. Describes some factors in decision making leading to creation: https://www.google.com/books/edition/History_of_the_Interstate_Highway_System/By0pAQAAMAAJ*:
- 1969 City Council ordinance renaming a section of Raymond Street to "Airport Expressway": https://journals.iupui.edu/index.php/ccci/article/download/11903/11937
- Entry describing reason for renaming to Sam Jones Expressway: https://indyencyclopedia.org/sam-h-jones/
- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaireeodell (talk • contribs) 23:43, 30 March 2022 (UTC)