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Article is about a non notable YouTuber with little to no reliable sources, all while written in the POV of a fan. Cheers. Wime Pocy 15:38, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and Internet. Cheers. Wime Pocy 15:38, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Subject wasn't notable enough to have an article (no doubt created by a fan) while he was alive and his death doesn't magically change that. Very little legitimate third-party coverage outside of the few sources in the article, some of which were removed for being deprecated. sixtynine ^{• whaddya want? •} 15:54, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm skeptical that he is notable enough, but deletion is not a way to do it. Mario Jump 83! 02:55, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Looks like many of the non-notable/deprecated sources have been removed. Also found a New York Times obit which helps cover some of the claims. Sunshineisles2 (talk) 16:33, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. Probably the article should be up for improvement, but not deletion.

This person was notable enough, and proof of that is that his death became a worldwide trending topic, as well as coverage on sites such as New York Times, NBC, and more.

It should be probably semiprotected because it can be either troll edited or fan edited. Pazguillermo (talk) 18:06, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Notable subject with reliable sources to support notability. Dwanyewest (talk) 20:42, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
~~Draftify~~ Weak keep I found this article from ITN, and in my opinion the subject isn't really that notable. But I believe that this can be at least be improved since there are some reliable sources that cover the subject. ~~Thus I believe that draftification is the best course of action, for now.~~ Mario Jump 83! 21:39, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I'm not remotely a fan of Kevin Samuels and yet I was disappointed to learn that Wikipedia didn't even have an article for him until rumors of his death started circulating. During his life, Samuels garnered a modicum of significant coverage (e.g. Essence, Yahoo News, Parle), but he has now far surpassed the requirements of WP:BIO or WP:BASIC with "significant coverage in multiple reliable sources" including the New York Times, NBC News, The Root, Complex, The Daily Beast, and NPR. I think as Wikipedians we have a healthy skepticism about so-called "influencers", but let us not be so jaded as to not recognize that Samuels easily meets our notability requirements. gobonobo ⁺ ^c 02:20, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
My thoughts exactly, well put! I was also surprised to see that Kevin Samuel did not have an article created until recently. Seems to be the case for many such controversial black "influencers", such as Dr. Umar Johnson.

While they might only be online personalities/influencers, I believe many of these people are driving cultural forces in the black community. Very influential, and as you've pointed out, the ample coverage in various reliable sources throughout the years helps Samuels fulfill Wikipedia's standards for notability. Mooonswimmer 14:35, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per gobonobo Mooonswimmer 14:37, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Reliable sources referenced by other editors are all referencing his untimely death. The subject was not notable enough to have an article while alive, and likely would not have been covered by organizations like the New York Times had he not died prematurely.

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 *:While they might only be online personalities/influencers, I believe many of these people are driving cultural forces in the black community. Very influential, and as you've pointed out, the ample coverage in various reliable sources throughout the years helps Samuels fulfill Wikipedia's standards for notability. [[User:Mooonswimmer|Mooonswimmer]] 14:35, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
 *'''Keep''' as per [[User:Gobonobo|<span style="font-family:DejaVu Sans; color: #333300">gobonobo</span>]] [[User:Mooonswimmer|Mooonswimmer]] 14:37, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
+*'''Delete''' Reliable sources referenced by other editors are all referencing his untimely death. The subject was not notable enough to have an article while alive, and likely would not have been covered by organizations like the New York Times had he not died prematurely.