Talk:Rhapsody of Fire

Rain of a Thousand Flames an EP?

According to this article, Rain of a Thousand Flames is an EP. I know it only has 7 songs, but according to the official website only The Dark Secret is an EP. This could be, because it features some very long songs (6:22, 10:36 and 13:41), making the CD last 41:52 which isn't that short for Rhapsody. Should we list it as an album again?

edit: The same about the year of some CD's. According to the revision of 83.31.75.15, some CD's were listed incorrectly, but again: the official Rhapsody website disagrees. I think about undoing his edit. Any thoughts?

• In Rhapsody's official biography, RoaTF is called as a Mini-CD and The Dark Secret is EP. Rain of a Thousand Flames should stay in the EP section. I recall when Rhapsody released this they called it as a mini album and Power of the Dragonflame as a forthcoming album.

Thunderforce a former band member?

According to 24.222.163.254 Thunderforce is a former member, but the link links to an article about a videogame, and Thunderforce isn't a name of a person, so how can it be a former member?

• AFAIK Thunderforce was not a member, but rather the former name of the band before they switched to Rhapsody. Berserker79 09:32, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
• True, but the article already sais: "Rhapsody is an Italian Epic metal band, formerly known as Thundercross", so it hasn't got any use to add that name to the former band members. Therefore i'm going to remove thundercross as a former member today.
• Don't confuse between thundercross (the old name) and thunderforce the artistic name of a drummer. Thunderforce is not a former member, is just a guest member, he helped with the drums in Power of the Dragonflame Neo139

Whats an EP?

Whats an EP?

An Extended Play is shorter than an album, but longer than a single. It generally contains around 6 songs. --Sn0wflake 18:59, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Questionable member listings

Can anyone verify if the listed 'secondary guitarist' Chris Murray is actually part of Rhapsody? The offical site still list Dominique Lerquin as their live guitarist and some googling hasn't thrown up any other matches.

I also have never before heard that Tuomo Lassila played bass for Rhapsody. He is known for playing drums for Stratovarius. Radagast1983, 14/04/06, 09:14.

Correct it then, its probally vandalism thats gone amiss. Ley Shade 10:23, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Copyright and Trademark Issues

"Due to copyright and trademark issues the band formerly known as Rhapsody has changed its name."

This has apparently already been noted, with the pages name and information changed. But does anyone have any information on the infringement itself? Who contacted the band, and with what threats of legal action? If anyone has more info on this, would it be relevant enough to make the Wiki page itself? --Sakaki22 14:16, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
They put this in the index of the Rhapsody and Magic Circle Music webpage: """"

Rhapsody Of Fire: A new era of film score metal has arrived.

Due to copyright and trademark issues the band formerly known as Rhapsody has changed its name. The band members consider this a great new start, reflecting the emboldened and increasingly grandiose direction that their music has taken. “The power of the dragonflame will burn brighter than ever before,” says guitarist/songwriter Luca Turilli. Keyboardist/songwriter Alex Staropoli adds, “The name Rhapsody Of Fire better represents the energy that has always been present in this band and its music.” With a new record company in Magic Circle Music, a new tour planned and a new album on the way, Rhapsody Of Fire will continue to explore musical fantasy worlds with the precision musicianship and unique symphonic concepts that their fans have come to expect and adore. Fresh on the heels of the band’s first live album release, Live In Canada 2005 - The Dark Secret, a new name and renewed vigor ensure that Rhapsody Of Fire still hold the passion and power that have always been associated with their music.""""" That's all the information we have. --Neo139 19:02, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I added this to the page under a new heading to show people why it had been changed, --Jeff24 12:42, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

but who was the lawsuit with? and when did it start?

I've already searched the net but to no avail. They didn't tell who have complained about copyright. Perhaps they do not whant to offer to the copyright holders undeserved notability by citing them, which would be fine to me. Loudenvier 11:16, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps some people were confusing the band with Rhapsody the online music service so they might have used that as an excuse to change their name to reflect their current musical direction. I haven't checked the discussion board on the band's website but if you're that curious maybe it provides more detail.

NPOV

Christopher Lee's narrations on Symphony of Enchanted Lands II: The Dark Secret are significantly less ridiculous . Come on... that is not neutral. I like the Sir Jay Lansford narrations. --Neo139 02:14, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Add Film Score Metal comment?

Considering that they often claim to being 'Film Score Metal' or even 'Hollywood Metal' it may be worth noting this somewhere in the article or even under 'Genre(s)' in the top right panel. Although, I know there are good arguments to suggest that the bulk of their material isn't of the slick compositional polish of Hollywood scores, surely they get their own preferred genre descriptors listed on here?

Besides, there is a Film Score Metal page up on wikipedia at long last ;)

Baronvongoremeat 20:28, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't think it's valid at all. Nightwish have some of their tracks even being used in films, whereas I don't know about Rhapsody. All that new page says is basically symphonic power metal, which is already mentioned. --Dayn 03:07, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Whilst I agree with you, remember that symphonic music is markedly disparate from the music used in film scores. Symphonies are rigid: four parts, following one progression, start to finish. Film scores have traditionally been fluid, changing according to situation, mood and characters. But I know that symphonic power metal is a style in which the definition does not have to relate to the definition of a symphony (otherwise then, nothing would be symphonic power metal).

As far as I'm concerned, if Rhapsody, the fans, the critics and so on refer to it as film score metal then that's good enough for me.

Interestingly, NONE of their earlier material is 'film score' at all. Only the last two albums really.

Is there no value in drawing perspicuity between film score metal and power metal? Eg. Dimmu Borgir have written music for Hellboy, yet they are not really power metal (i think.. I'm not sure on that one)

Baronvongoremeat 14:05, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Sure you can mention it in the article; but I disagree with adding it as a genre. I would call it film score metal, only if it was used in a film score, and then in the context that it's a heavy metal song, in a film score. As it is, they're pretty much symphonic power metal. Examples mentioned in the film score metal article are quite different to each other; genre means alike, and "generic" stems from that word, and there's not much homogeny between the examples listed except for symphonic elements. In which case, I'm for mentioning it in the article, but not for the genre box as it's hardly a description, if there's bands from different genres there. --Dayn 14:20, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Speed Metal?

I've had many refer to Rhapsody (of Fire) as being speed metal, or at least inspired by speed metal. Should that be added to the genres list? - Tenthkarma 01:16, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

I dunno. They don't sound like speed metal to me. But are they neo-classical metal?